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Title: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on January 31, 2010, 05:27:04 AM
Quote from: IGN
New Main Pokemon Game Announced
Next entry to follow Diamond & Pearl hits Japanese DS some time this year.

January 28, 2010 - HeartGold and SoulSilver are still the rage amongst Pokemon gamers, but Nintendo isn't letting Pikachu and crew rest. In Japan today, the company announced that a new main entry in the series is being developed for DS.

By "main entry," we mean a game in the line of titles that includes Red & Green, Gold & Silver, Ruby & Saphire, and Diamond & Pearl. The new game is set for Japanese release this year, meaning it will come four years after Diamond & Pearl's original release over there.

Nintendo did not share details on the game today, only hinting that it would have new Pokemon, take place in a new region, and feature new gameplay concepts.

But with the announcement out of the way, and with a 2010 Japanese release, expect to start hearing details shortly.

And then there's this;

(http://i49.tinypic.com/jim5xg.jpg)

Pic source (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=112686)
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: STM on January 31, 2010, 05:39:13 AM
Taking bets on Pokemon totals for this:

I'm wagering over 600, number hovering around 615-620.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gaia on January 31, 2010, 05:39:29 AM
What? Again? That means more new TCG sets. at least it ain't in the summer.  :\
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Kit on January 31, 2010, 05:42:38 AM
Oh god.
Instead of making MORE they should make the series better, and improve it instead of making more goddamn pokeymans.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Rad Lionheart on January 31, 2010, 05:45:28 AM
Everybody knows quantity is better than quality!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on January 31, 2010, 05:46:33 AM
Pocket Monster Hunter or Bust!

[spoiler]May's, that is. 8)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sakura Leic on January 31, 2010, 05:48:19 AM
I hope the next starters are better than the last ones, they kinda didn't really appeal to me.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on January 31, 2010, 05:52:30 AM
I hope the next starters are better than the last ones, they kinda didn't really appeal to me.

All the Pokemon designs in general have just gone way, WAY out into left field. Nebula Gray fits in with Gen 4; that's [tornado fang]ing ridiculous.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Rad Lionheart on January 31, 2010, 05:54:08 AM
Let's hope to see some new and refreshing designs for the new pokemans.
And yeah, gen 4's starters didn't have much appeal to me either.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: VirusChris on January 31, 2010, 05:56:14 AM
Charmander will always remain my favorite starter (and Charmeleon as my favorite Pokemon of all!).
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sakura Leic on January 31, 2010, 05:57:52 AM
All the Pokemon designs in general have just gone way, WAY out into left field. Nebula Gray fits in with Gen 4; that's [tornado fang]ing ridiculous.
Even Lucario?

Charmander will always remain my favorite starter (and Charmeleon as my favorite Pokemon of all!).
Meh I'm more partial to Torchic as a favorite starter.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Rad Lionheart on January 31, 2010, 06:01:03 AM
Cyndaquil has been my favourite so far.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Black Mage J on January 31, 2010, 06:01:44 AM
Cyndaquil is the best, so cute, then killer towards its final levels. Though I don't really care for much of the new pokemon, but ah well, this will never die. I miss the old pokemon days.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: borockman on January 31, 2010, 06:05:00 AM
So... what kind of pokemons will have higher authority than Dialga, Palkia, and Arcueus?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sakura Leic on January 31, 2010, 06:06:20 AM
You know I have no idea.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on January 31, 2010, 06:07:54 AM
Treecko is the best starter because it evolves into Sceptile and Sceptile's official art makes him look fantastically smug.
And Chikorita because dinosaur covered in flowers woo.

(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6754/254sceptile.png)

seriously how smug is this guy damn
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Black Mage J on January 31, 2010, 06:08:28 AM
So... what kind of pokemons will have higher authority than Dialga, Palkia, and Arcueus?
God, the brand new pokemon, or should I say Kyit?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Rad Lionheart on January 31, 2010, 06:08:56 AM
That's pretty smug.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on January 31, 2010, 06:10:17 AM
he's a playa and he knows it
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on January 31, 2010, 06:11:55 AM
Even Lucario?

Okay, well, "all" is a strong word.

Compare...compare Darkrai to Gengar. Compare Combbee to Caterpie. Compare Claydol to Noctowl. Shoot, what the heck is Bronzong supposed to be?!

A few Pokemon can steer into the abstract just fine. But to start turning away from designs that were designed for "survival of the fittest"? And look goofy on top? That's not cute design or marketing appeal, that's just laziness.

They've reaped what they've sewn, though. They've introduced Arceus, and now there's no turning back but to put effort into future installments.
I should have stopped when I found out about EVs/IVs/Natures and Beauty Contests, but I played through Emerald anyway. Was...alright.

he's a playa and he knows it

Yeah, I've seen that look before...
You're right.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Satoryu on January 31, 2010, 06:17:27 AM
I'd like to see the starters have different types this time instead of the old Grass-Water-Fire chain. Maybe something like Flying-Fighting-Rock.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Rad Lionheart on January 31, 2010, 06:17:37 AM
I just want some of my old favourites to be easily available earlier in the game.
Like Doduo.
I love Doduo and Dodrio.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gotham Ranger on January 31, 2010, 06:27:36 AM
Cyndaquil has been my favourite so far.
Pretty much this
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on January 31, 2010, 06:32:33 AM
Compare...compare Darkrai to Gengar. Compare Combbee to Caterpie. Compare Claydol to Noctowl. Shoot, what the heck is Bronzong supposed to be?!

I dunno, gen 1 had some pretty [parasitic bomb] pokemon too. There were so many that were just larger versions of real world animals with changed colours. And then, y'know, Grimer. It's an animate puddle. It evolves into a bigger animate puddle. Voltorb. It's a ball that shoots lightning (?). It evolves into a bigger ball that shoots lightning. Hitmonchan. It's a boxer? And Magnemite and Diglett, while having nothing wrong with them themselves, have the laziest evolutions ever. Those two look especially bad compared to Metagross, who actually did the whole combining pokemon thing right.

There are plenty of badly designed pokemon in the later gens, but there are just as many good ones as in the early games. Breloom and Ninjask and Flygon and Milotic and Dusknoir and so on and so on and so on.





Metagross is the best pokemon ever so I'm going to keep complaining at you until you acknowledge it so just do it already. :<
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sub Tank on January 31, 2010, 06:39:41 AM
150 is actually the number of Pokemon games Nintendo is going to make before the apocalypse.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sakura Leic on January 31, 2010, 06:45:33 AM
Okay, well, "all" is a strong word.

Compare...compare Darkrai to Gengar. Compare Combbee to Caterpie. Compare Claydol to Noctowl. Shoot, what the heck is Bronzong supposed to be?!

A few Pokemon can steer into the abstract just fine. But to start turning away from designs that were designed for "survival of the fittest"? And look goofy on top? That's not cute design or marketing appeal, that's just laziness.

They've reaped what they've sewn, though. They've introduced Arceus, and now there's no turning back but to put effort into future installments.
I should have stopped when I found out about EVs/IVs/Natures and Beauty Contests, but I played through Emerald anyway. Was...alright.

Yeah you do have a good point I mean even the new evolutions for the old pokemon just look weird.  I mean Tangegrowth was...yeah that's just wrong.  Dusknoir is just plain weird and doesn't really fit into the Duskull family, although he seems strong it just doesn't make sense for a pokemon to have no legs, get new legs, then lose them again.  I mean they should of made him into a giant zombie with eyes all over the place, that's the perfect upgrade for a cyclops in my opinion.  

Then there was Glalie and Froslass, how can such a cute pokemon like Snowrunt evevolve into something so ugly or something that turns half ghost, it really makes no sense.  Of course it wasn't as bad as Magmortar, Electivire, and Togekiss: other than their patterns you wouldn't really believed that they evolved from Magmar, Electribuzz and Togetic.  If they had to evolve Togetic couldn't they make it a bit more serahpic instead of that UFO like thing? Why couldn't they keep the trademark big slanted white eyes from Eleckid and Electibuzz on Eletivire instead of changing to those tiny beady red eyes, and for Magmortar I really don't know about him but it really would of made more sense to make him into a giant dinosaur or a phonix thing making him part flying or something but instead they made him look like a fat clown.

I kinda like Gallade since now the male Kirlias won't look gay anymore, I mean honestly all the Ralts should have been female in the first place or there could of been a male version of Ralts like they did with the Nidoran but instead they decide to make Gallade a transvestite.

I mean there are some great redesignes like Rhyperior, Yanmega, the two new Eeveelutions (although Leafeon could been a little better and was a bit overdue to me), Mamoswine, and Gliscor, but when I look at Pokemon like Probopass and Porygon-Z I just can't help but wonder why they made these extra evolutions and why they look so weird.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on January 31, 2010, 06:49:13 AM
I dunno, gen 1 had some pretty [parasitic bomb] pokemon too. There were so many that were just larger versions of real world animals with changed colours. And then, y'know, Grimer. It's an animate puddle. It evolves into a bigger animate puddle. Voltorb. It's a ball that shoots lightning (?). It evolves into a bigger ball that shoots lightning. Hitmonchan. It's a boxer? And Magnemite and Diglett, while having nothing wrong with them themselves, have the laziest evolutions ever. Those two look especially bad compared to Metagross, who actually did the whole combining pokemon thing right.

There are plenty of badly designed pokemon in the later gens, but there are just as many good ones as in the early games. Breloom and Ninjask and Flygon and Milotic and Dusknoir and so on and so on and so on.





Metagross is the best pokemon ever so I'm going to keep complaining at you until you acknowledge it so just do it already. :<

Hold on, now I've got to comment on a whole list!
Gen 1: Again, designs that blend in WELL with inanimate objects are fine. Bronzong looks like a bell melted on a totem pole (which are WOODEN). Magmar, Jynx, and Electabuzz are my only real Gen 1 complaints.
Breloom: Cute, but not practical. Mushrooms do not have tails, or that much green.
Ninjask: Good blend of theme and imitation of the animal. Excellent.
Flygon: There are better ways to do what looks like a dragonfly. Yanma.
Milotic: Played more as an eel instead of a dragon, it might have been okay.
Dusknoir: With ghosts, it's just too hard to say "Well this is too abstract." So it's lucky.

Again, all is a strong word. Metagross isn't too terribly bad, especially if one considers Steelix and Magnetron acceptable.
And Houndoom's my personal favorite, but objectively, I'm not sure what the best design is. Most would probably say Pikachu considering how darn universal his appeal is.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sakura Leic on January 31, 2010, 06:54:27 AM
Dusknoir: With ghosts, it's just too hard to say "Well this is too abstract." So it's lucky.
True but still I would of liked it better if it was a giant zombie with eyes all over the place so Dusklops wouldn't have to lose it's legs.  They also should of evolved Banette too and make him into some kind of puppet master pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: STM on January 31, 2010, 07:03:45 AM
Only when Dunsparce gets two evolutions.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sakura Leic on January 31, 2010, 07:06:44 AM
Only when Dunsparce gets two evolutions.
Yeah Dunsparce is the only truly weird one in the 2 generations and I don't really see any possible designes for it's evolution it's just too weird.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: SUIKA on January 31, 2010, 07:09:26 AM
'aint this all a matter of opinion as to weather or not the new Pokemon designs are as good as the old ones or not? Doesn't the bias of nostalgia play a large role in this? Much like anything else, I'm sure the younger players of Pokemon will grow up with fond memories of say Generations three and four the same ways we do for one and two.

Also, you don't seriously think Nintendo would be dumb enough to release more games without any new Pokemon added at all? Or at the very least you think a quantity less than a hundred new characters would suffice? Whatever artistic value you want to place on the franchise, it is a franchise, and they can do whatever they want to make more money outta' it.

And that being said, I don't seriously think that the designers are seriously the types who'd do a doodle and shove some eyes on and call it a Pokemon. Each and every one of those designs have taken allotta' thought.

I hope.

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Only when Dunsparce gets two evolutions.

Dunspaaaaaaarce.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Police Girl on January 31, 2010, 07:12:37 AM
I hope the starters don't turn out to be [parasitic bomb]. When I get HeartGold (I like the Gold Version.) I'm going to my good old Totodile. Favorite starter of that Series, of course Squirtle was my fav in the Red/Blue/Yellow/Green days, and Treecko was my fav in R/S/E (No, not Mudkip. Treecko, much stronger than that Meme.)

But damn, another one. I'll wait and see if its any good before I decide to buy it when it comes out. I still got Platinum to get.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: STM on January 31, 2010, 10:22:48 AM
Yeah Dunsparce is the only truly weird one in the 2 generations and I don't really see any possible designes for it's evolution it's just too weird.

It's as useless as Magikarp. It'll get some ridiculous chinese dragon form or something... then turn into godzilla.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: SUIKA on January 31, 2010, 11:14:42 AM
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It's as useless as Magikarp. It'll get some ridiculous chinese dragon form or something... then turn into godzilla.

That's sensible and fantastic.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: TeaOfJay on January 31, 2010, 11:28:10 AM
We're going to be battling with entire planets in Gen5.

...Or at least we'd better be. It's really hard to go much higher than PokeGod.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gotham Ranger on January 31, 2010, 12:16:13 PM
Arceus should've been kept back for gen5. I mean [tornado fang], how many legendaries were in gen4?

Oh well, with pokegod comes pokedevil!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Dr. Wily II on January 31, 2010, 02:36:22 PM
Arceus should've been kept back for gen5. I mean [tornado fang], how many legendaries were in gen4?

Oh well, with pokegod comes pokedevil!
Now this I want to see.
But as mentioned, it's pretty hard to beat PokeGod Arceus.
Then again, who cares!?

IT WILL BE OVER NINE THOUSAND SOON
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Ephidiel on January 31, 2010, 05:23:18 PM
now it will have 666 PKMN
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: megaman24681012 on January 31, 2010, 06:36:31 PM
[tornado fang], just leave pokemon alone!   >^<

the series is done! finished! the only thing it needs is a goddamn break!

that and I still haven't completed my national Pokedex on pokemon Emerald.  ;O;
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Kit on January 31, 2010, 06:41:33 PM
[tornado fang], just leave pokemon alone!   >^<

the series is done! finished! the only thing it needs is a goddamn break!

that and I still haven't completed my national Pokedex on pokemon Emerald.  ;O;

[parasitic bomb], son you're slow.

Also I would like to see the lands all in one game so I can just travel from one to the other, so I can catch whatever one I want.
I hate transferring pokemon since I have no DS, no wifi, and no one to play it with.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Akira on January 31, 2010, 08:35:39 PM
I want!!! Omega pokemon!!!!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gaia on January 31, 2010, 08:40:59 PM
I want!!! Omega pokemon!!!!

........ wut?  o~O

This game better let you go behind the scenes as a Team Rocket Employee as a plot.  ::)

Anyway, yeah. Sceptile. woo.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Akira on January 31, 2010, 08:45:25 PM
........ wut?  o~O

This game better let you go behind the scenes as a Team Rocket Employee as a plot.  ::)

Anyway, yeah. Sceptile. woo.


Remember... Arceus is the Alfa Pokemon ...Obviously must have its counterpart ... for the equilibrium

Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: VixyNyan on January 31, 2010, 08:49:25 PM
........ wut?  o~O

What he means is...

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Omega Pokemon that fights with Arceus. It's like Rockman series. Arceus is X, he can be any type.
"X is the first robot to possess sophisticated technology and behavioral adaptation, based on the last design of Dr. Light."
Maybe they are Pokeroids.

And thoughts about the new region:

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Maybe Chugoku and Shigoku on the real Japan, with Hiroshima and all.

We'll wait and see what Game Freak and Creatures are "really" gonna do. Take this with a pinch of salt. ^^;
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gaia on January 31, 2010, 08:51:04 PM
I'd rather play as a TR Grunt then, with that mission, capturing the Omega Pokemon, while working towards to be a top member.  -_-
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on January 31, 2010, 08:55:08 PM
I don't get why people keep complaining about the designs of the 3rd and 4th gen Pokemon. They all don't seem that different.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: VixyNyan on January 31, 2010, 08:55:12 PM
Remember, this is a Rockman forum. Silly ideas like that are showing up sooner or later. x3
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on January 31, 2010, 08:56:04 PM
I want that kitty that DarkWaltz drew for my 5th Gen starter.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: RMX on January 31, 2010, 10:06:51 PM
Do you know what I want? A Pokemon gen where I don't have to use the previous generations to catch them all.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Kit on January 31, 2010, 10:55:13 PM
Do you know what I want? A Pokemon gen where I don't have to use the previous generations to catch them all.

New favorite person.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on January 31, 2010, 10:56:10 PM
I still want customizable trainers.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sakura Leic on January 31, 2010, 11:14:17 PM
I still want customizable trainers.
Yes that way we won't have to deal with really weird hats, like with the male trainer in R/S/E, both trainers in D/P/P, and now the female trainer in HG/SS.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on January 31, 2010, 11:15:51 PM
both trainers in D/P/P
Berets>You.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sakura Leic on January 31, 2010, 11:16:58 PM
Berets>You.
Is it wrong that I like the classic baseball cap?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: STM on January 31, 2010, 11:19:49 PM
I want!!! Omega pokemon!!!!

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/genehf/random/omega.png)
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sakura Leic on January 31, 2010, 11:20:48 PM
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/genehf/random/omega.png)
Lol we're screwed. XD
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on January 31, 2010, 11:59:14 PM
Is it wrong that I like the classic baseball cap?

Didn't Sakura wear a beret at one point?  XD
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sakura Leic on February 01, 2010, 12:00:47 AM
Yeah but it doesn't look good on a guy in my opinion.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on February 01, 2010, 12:14:02 AM
Yeah but it doesn't look good on a guy in my opinion.
The French beg to differ.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sakura Leic on February 01, 2010, 12:14:56 AM
The French beg to differ.
Okay how about this classic berets are okay but not the new ones?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Nekomata on February 01, 2010, 01:02:18 AM
Yeah but it doesn't look good on a guy in my opinion.
Dr Roosevelt's GTA:SA LP would beg to differ.

except when he used the pepsiman mod.. >>;
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Kit on February 01, 2010, 01:02:52 AM
The French beg to differ.
Well...those are the French.
I don't want a beret on my [Top Spin] of a trainer when I have my badass team.
Also, mushroom butt hats on girls.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sakura Leic on February 01, 2010, 01:04:48 AM
Well...those are the French.
I don't want a beret on my [Top Spin] of a trainer when I have my badass team.
Also, mushroom butt hats on girls.
Exactly I'd rather have a cowboy hat. *shot*
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Kit on February 01, 2010, 01:20:18 AM
Exactly I'd rather have a cowboy hat. *shot*

I like no hat, because I'm edgy.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: TeaOfJay on February 01, 2010, 01:24:21 AM
I don't care what the trainer looks like as long as we're battling with planets.

...Seriously, am I the only one who'd want to see a planet sized Pokemon?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sakura Leic on February 01, 2010, 01:35:41 AM
Wait how can a pokemon possibly be planet size...never mind I don't want to know.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on February 01, 2010, 01:40:09 AM
I don't want a beret on my [Top Spin] of a trainer when I have my badass team.
The gays are eternally thankful that you have associated them with a Pokemon Trainer with no taste in headgear.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: DarkWaltz on February 01, 2010, 01:44:48 AM
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/genehf/random/omega.png)

The ultimate game over right there. XD

Yeah, the beret just didn't look right on a guy, even when they're french.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Kit on February 01, 2010, 02:04:45 AM
The gays are eternally thankful that you have associated them with a Pokemon Trainer with no taste in headgear.

I'm not targeting gays in general, I have no problem with gays.
I like the word [Top Spin] too much.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Klavier Gavin on February 01, 2010, 02:07:33 AM
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/genehf/random/omega.png)

insert Vs. Lance/Red battle theme here?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on February 01, 2010, 02:22:11 AM
A trainer needs a pair of sunglasses and a scarf.  That's about it.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on February 01, 2010, 02:24:54 AM
I'm not targeting gays in general, I have no problem with gays.
I like the word [Top Spin] too much.
I was joking anyway.

A trainer needs a pair of sunglasses and a scarf.  That's about it.
Sunglasses?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: TeaOfJay on February 01, 2010, 02:26:56 AM
I say the next gen should take place in space. You won't see the trainers anyways with their space suits so you can't really care how they look and I get planet sized Pokemon.

Everyone wins!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on February 01, 2010, 02:29:25 AM
Sunglasses?

Yes.  Sunglasses.  The answer to many of life's problems.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: DarkWaltz on February 01, 2010, 02:33:24 AM
Wasn't one of the trainers already sporting a scarf?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sakura Leic on February 01, 2010, 02:35:00 AM
Wasn't one of the trainers already sporting a scarf?
Uh all the main character trainers in D/P/P had scarves.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on February 01, 2010, 03:45:52 AM
I say the next gen should take place in space.
FUND IT
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Kit on February 01, 2010, 04:36:40 AM
I was joking anyway.
Okay, nice to know I didn't offend you.

Uh all the main character trainers in D/P/P had scarves.

NEVER CAN HAVE ENOUGH SCARVES
NEEDS MORE BELTS AND ZIPPERS
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: TeaOfJay on February 01, 2010, 04:55:43 AM
I don't know if this is the greatest idea ever or the craziest but I thought of something: Clothing Pokemon. Meaning they're Pokemon that you can also wear: scarves, hats, shoes, etc. Nintendo could also add HMs that give you attributes according to the clothing Pokemon that you have: the HM used on Shoe Pokemon could make the trainer run faster than the Running Shoes do.

I don't know how the rest could work, I'm sure someone else in the topic will figure it out.

...Yeah, I blame/praise Kitsu's post for somehow giving me this idea.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Harruhy on February 01, 2010, 04:58:41 AM
Clothing Pokemon. Meaning they're Pokemon that you can also wear: scarves, hats, shoes, etc.

Man... that idea is so crazy, that it might just be the stupidest [parasitic bomb] I've ever heard.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: TeaOfJay on February 01, 2010, 05:04:59 AM
Even dumber than the iPad?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Kit on February 01, 2010, 05:08:33 AM
Even dumber than the iPad?

iPad win every retard contest forever, but your idea is kinda...out there.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: TeaOfJay on February 01, 2010, 05:17:05 AM
Yeah, I can agree with that sentiment.

I should probably have not posted that. Lesson learned I guess.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on February 01, 2010, 05:26:36 AM
It's be cool if we could actually see the Pokemon with the actual item equipped.  Y'know, equipping a Choice Scarf on something and then being able to see the actual scarf on the Pokemon in battle.  Of course, with guys like Muk around, I'd have no idea where they'd put the thing...
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Nekomata on February 01, 2010, 05:30:00 AM
I don't know if this is the greatest idea ever or the craziest but I thought of something: Clothing Pokemon. Meaning they're Pokemon that you can also wear: scarves, hats, shoes, etc. Nintendo could also add HMs that give you attributes according to the clothing Pokemon that you have: the HM used on Shoe Pokemon could make the trainer run faster than the Running Shoes do.

I don't know how the rest could work, I'm sure someone else in the topic will figure it out.

...Yeah, I blame/praise Kitsu's post for somehow giving me this idea.
ever play snatcher?
in it they have genetically modified animals that can double as varying forms of purses/handbags/backpacks/luggage.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gotham Ranger on February 01, 2010, 05:36:12 AM
Needs more Megakarp
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sapphire Knight on February 01, 2010, 06:15:58 AM
Yeah, the beret just didn't look right on a guy.
A Mr.Jamie Hyneman would like a word with you.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Kit on February 01, 2010, 06:25:38 AM
A Mr.Jamie Hyneman would like a word with you.

Jamie can make it work though.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Nekomata on February 01, 2010, 09:24:00 AM
A Mr.Jamie Hyneman would like a word with you.
walruses don't count.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: DarkWaltz on February 01, 2010, 04:56:25 PM
Uh all the main character trainers in D/P/P had scarves.

Oh...  >0< Shows how much I pay attention to the trainers...

A Mr.Jamie Hyneman would like a word with you.

Who is that exactly?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Kit on February 01, 2010, 08:37:53 PM
Oh...  >0< Shows how much I pay attention to the trainers...

Who is that exactly?

Jamie Hyneman is from a show called Mythbusters where they take urban legends and blow things up. 
Its educational.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gotham Ranger on February 02, 2010, 12:27:09 AM
Who is that exactly?
Where exactly are you from, again?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: DarkWaltz on February 02, 2010, 06:52:41 AM
Where exactly are you from, again?

Virginia. Sorry, I know of Mythbusters, but I never watched it. Sorry again.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on February 02, 2010, 06:55:46 AM
Don't apologize to him.  He's the Green Ranger.  He can be defeated with Wax!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Nekomata on February 02, 2010, 07:08:01 AM
He can be killed with Wax!
>.>
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on February 02, 2010, 07:12:42 AM
>.>

That's why I said Green Ranger!   ;)

I know what happens to the real Sentai version.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gotham Ranger on February 02, 2010, 12:22:13 PM
Not wax D:
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Kit on February 02, 2010, 06:44:20 PM
In the next episode of Pokemon, Green Ranger kicks everyone's ass, steals pikachu and gives it to Team Rocket, and then blasts off into the sky with his rocket boots.
Everyone wins.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on February 02, 2010, 10:48:00 PM
Lessee... 151 Gen1, 100 new ones in Gen2, 135 new ones in Gen3, and 105 new ones in Gen4. The current total is 493. They need at least 107 new ones to break 600. Which they probably will...

Since Arceus is basically God, I have no idea how they'll top it. The birds and cats were elementals (same with the Regis), Celebi was time, Mew was basically the mind (could learn all moves, was psychic-type), Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza, were Land, Sea, and Sky, Azelf and them were emotions, and Dialga and Palkia are Time (again) and Space. So what's left?

Also, it's about time for a WOMBAT POKEMON! Make it a starter!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Kit on February 02, 2010, 11:31:27 PM
Lessee... 151 Gen1, 100 new ones in Gen2, 135 new ones in Gen3, and 105 new ones in Gen4. The current total is 493. They need at least 107 new ones to break 600. Which they probably will...

Since Arceus is basically God, I have no idea how they'll top it. The birds and cats were elementals (same with the Regis), Celebi was time, Mew was basically the mind (could learn all moves, was psychic-type), Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza, were Land, Sea, and Sky, Azelf and them were emotions, and Dialga and Palkia are Time (again) and Space. So what's left?

Also, it's about time for a WOMBAT POKEMON! Make it a starter!

The three legendaries in Johto were dogs.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on February 02, 2010, 11:51:07 PM
I always heard that they were the Legendary Cats. Hmm...

Quote from: Bulbapedia
Entei is a lion-like creature that bears resemblance to a Mastiff.
Raikou is a yellow tiger-like creature with black stripes that resemble lightning bolts and a white under-side.
Suicune is a blue wolf-like creature with some feline characteristics, white rhombus-shaped spots and a white underside.
Well, Entei is cat-like, yet resembles a dog. Raikou is cat-like. Suicune is dog-like (Wolves are basically wild dogs. Gray Wolf scientific name: Canis Lupus; Pet Dog scientific name: Canis Domesticus. Both part of the Canis genus, or dogs) yet has cat characteristics. Thus, the legendary CATS. (cue AYBABTU joke)
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Kit on February 02, 2010, 11:57:16 PM
I always heard that they were the Legendary Cats. Hmm...
Quote
Entei is a lion-like creature that bears resemblance to a Mastiff.
Raikou is a yellow tiger-like creature with black stripes that resemble lightning bolts and a white under-side.
Suicune is a blue wolf-like creature with some feline characteristics, white rhombus-shaped spots and a white underside.
Well, Entei is cat-like, yet resembles a dog. Raikou is cat-like. Suicune is dog-like (Wolves are basically wild dogs. Gray Wolf scientific name: Canis Lupus; Pet Dog scientific name: Canis Domesticus. Both part of the Canis genus, or dogs) yet has cat characteristics. Thus, the legendary CATS. (cue AYBABTU joke)


what the [tornado fang] did you just type?
Mastiffs are dogs. If they all resemble dogs then they are dogs.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on February 03, 2010, 12:02:24 AM
Ah. But Raikou doesn't resemble a dog! Therefore your point is moot.

Actually, I don't really care. Cats, dogs, all that matters is that they're Legendary Beasts.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Kit on February 03, 2010, 12:05:13 AM
Okay then, Raikou is a tiger, Suicune is a wolf, and Entei is a really big [tornado fang]ing dog.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on February 03, 2010, 02:45:47 AM
Why does it matter, really? Can't we all just call them "Entei-Raikou-Suicune"?

Uh, but... what the hell is the Dunsparce supposed to be?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Hypershell on February 03, 2010, 03:42:58 AM
I believe the neutral term is "Beast Trio".

Yeah, I can't really imagine Raikou as a dog either.  Entei could go either way.  Suicune is the toughest to pass as a cat, though, what with the snout.

Don't apologize to him.  He's the Green Ranger.  He can be defeated with Wax!
Yeah, but an electric force-field can undo that.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gotham Ranger on February 03, 2010, 08:38:09 AM
In the next episode of Pokemon, Green Ranger kicks everyone's ass, steals pikachu and gives it to Team Rocket, and then blasts off into the sky with his rocket boots.
Everyone wins.
Oh my god, why did I just think of a Pokemon equiv of the Axem Rangers?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: geekgo4 on February 03, 2010, 01:44:02 PM
The three legendaries in Johto were dogs.
Raikou was definitely NOT a dog!  They're all just "beasts."
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Strider Xhaiden on February 03, 2010, 01:47:12 PM
Why does it matter, really? Can't we all just call them "Entei-Raikou-Suicune"?

Uh, but... what the hell is the Dunsparce supposed to be?

I read somewhere that Dunsparce was based on the Tsuchinoko....
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on February 04, 2010, 08:53:00 PM
Ah. But Raikou doesn't resemble a dog! Therefore your point is moot.

Actually, I don't really care. Cats, dogs, all that matters is that they're Legendary Beasts.
See, I already conceded my point. Also, I read that too, Ky.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: LightningKitsune on February 04, 2010, 10:34:32 PM
Er...what about the Legendaries? You can't go really go higher than God.

Maybe evolutions for existing ones?

Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on February 04, 2010, 10:39:39 PM
Hmmm....
Your Articuno is evolving! Congratulations! Your Articuno evolved into Frigivier!
Your Zapdos is evolving! Congratulations! Your Zapdos evolved into Blitzcinc!
Your Moltres is evolving! Congratulations! Your Moltres evolved into Burnseis!

I don't know, but it's about all they can do now.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on February 04, 2010, 11:06:51 PM
Er...what about the Legendaries? You can't go really go higher than God.
Sez who? And why do they have to be higher than god? I don't really see a hierarchy between the 1st-3rd gen legendaries.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on February 04, 2010, 11:16:09 PM
Gen1 & Gen2 were basically elements. Gen3 represented Earth, Sea, and Sky (with more elements thrown in). Gen4 represented Time, Space, and Deities (once again, with more elements). Unless they make some sort of Legendary version of normal Pokemon (LEGENDARY EEVEE!) then I don't know what they're gonna do.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gaia on February 04, 2010, 11:44:56 PM
They'll prolly throw in Norse/Egyptian/Lesser-god based pokemon.

I can see it now..

"POKEMON: ANUBIS VERISION and POKEMON: THOR VERSION. Play as a rocket henchman shooting to the top while on a extra-secret mission without blowing your cover and collect useless badges once again!"

And the starters would be some kind of stolen pokemon from some region, imported. They must be on the deep end if this were to happen.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on February 04, 2010, 11:50:23 PM
Pokemon: Dodecahedron Version; Pokemon: Tetrahedron Version
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gotham Ranger on February 05, 2010, 12:19:23 AM
I'm telling you, Pokemon Satan
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sapphire Knight on February 05, 2010, 12:47:50 AM
Unless they make some sort of Legendary version of normal Pokemon (LEGENDARY EEVEE!) then I don't know what they're gonna do.
They already have, it' called Regigigas... In English at least.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on February 05, 2010, 12:53:46 AM
Regigigas is basically the upper level of the Regis from Hoenn. That's all, basically a new addition to a class established in the previous generation. Lugia and Ho-oh are the same way (new Legendary Birds like Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres). So they could do that, I suppose.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Hypershell on February 05, 2010, 12:59:28 AM
I think Mirby meant legendary versions of non-legendary Pokemon.

Which is not happening because a great deal of legendary Pokemon can be outdone by non-Legends anyway, as Regigigas of all 'mans certainly demonstrates (many others suffer limited move pools or oddly balanced stats).  A legendary is simply one-of-a-kind, and expected to have high base stats, but may or may not be actually useful.

I don't see a hierarchy between games either.  The only reason Kyogre and Groudon [twin slasher] all the others is because they abuse the Ability mechanic new to their generation, and all the oldies got stuck with Pressure.  As far as surpassing the folklore surrounding them, well, the legends of the first two generations were more mysterious than anything.  Same from the Regi trio.  A detailed background for a "legendary" Pokemon was, outside of Mewtwo (which is natural since he was a product of science), pretty much new to 3rd Gen.

Gen4 represented Time, Space, and Deities (once again, with more elements).
You forgot parallel universes (Giratina).

Also, Gen 3 revisited sea and sky after Gen 2 already did them.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on February 05, 2010, 01:01:53 AM
True. Forgot that's what they were. Although Lugia and Ho-oh could also be Light and Dark (Ho-oh was associated with the sun, if memory serves, and Lugia seems dark to me, so... yeah). Regardless, we need more EEVEELUTIONS!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Hypershell on February 05, 2010, 01:16:46 AM
Considering "Dark" as a type was introduced with Lugia's debut I do not believe that was the intention at all.  Despite being typed Psychic much of Lugia's powers revolve around water.  There is the whole "darkness of the ocean depths" shpiel, but there are definitely legends darker than Lugia (mainly Giratina and the apty named Darkrai).

Of course, Ho-oh does have the whole rainbow thing going.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on February 05, 2010, 01:26:10 AM
I know! THE PLANETS! That's where they'll go!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sapphire Knight on February 05, 2010, 01:42:52 AM
What, with pokemon named after the planets? Then that would mean... *counts on fingers* About 7 more legendaries, as more often than not, Earth (or Terra) gets left out of that equation and Pluto's not a planet anymore (which I believe to be bull [parasitic bomb]).
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Pringer X on February 05, 2010, 06:16:55 AM
Of course, Ho-oh does have the whole rainbow thing going.

I always interpreted as Ho-oh being colorful, while Lugia being colorless. Still, I'm glad that it's not a Water/Flying, otherwise it'd be a bit hard to actually use.

What, with pokemon named after the planets? Then that would mean... *counts on fingers* About 7 more legendaries, as more often than not, Earth (or Terra) gets left out of that equation and Pluto's not a planet anymore (which I believe to be bull [parasitic bomb]).

There's also the possibility of having universe or galaxy-based Pokemon if they don't want to have expies of Sailor Moon.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on February 05, 2010, 07:49:41 AM
I thought Clefairy was Sailor Moon!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on February 05, 2010, 11:53:03 PM
What, with pokemon named after the planets? Then that would mean... *counts on fingers* About 7 more legendaries, as more often than not, Earth (or Terra) gets left out of that equation and Pluto's not a planet anymore (which I believe to be bull [parasitic bomb]).

Not to start anything, but if Pluto were still qualified as a planet, then we'd have Ceres, Sedna, Quaoar, and about 50 other Kuiper Belt objects that would also be planets. And then Gen5 would have 700 Pokemon, because the last 60 would be planet-based.

I don't want no 60 legendaries.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: LightningKitsune on February 06, 2010, 12:19:24 AM
And they said there will be even more after this one. Here we go for quantity over quality.  ::)

I say we let the damn thing die. It should have died back when the 2nd generation came out.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on February 06, 2010, 12:22:27 AM
Meh, at least they finally made a Skunk pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on February 06, 2010, 12:22:47 AM
I say we let the damn thing die. It should have died back when the 2nd generation came out.

Why's that?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: LightningKitsune on February 06, 2010, 12:25:10 AM
Why's that?

Because with many more games to come, Pokemon's suffering from the Scooby-Doo effect. Some new BS thing spewed out every few months. Eventually no one will care about it.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on February 06, 2010, 12:27:12 AM
Aaaaaaand why is that bad? Or at least not preferable to no more games at all?


(also it takes a fair while between main game releases and they're the only important ones anyway so I'm not actually quite sure you're right there but y'know whatever)
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on February 06, 2010, 12:36:15 AM
I think LK is just feeling highly cynical today. It happens to us all.
Release dates for the main games:

Re/B    - 9/30/98
Y        - 10/1/99
G/S     - 10/14/00
C        - 7/29/01
Ru/S   - 3/19/03
FR/LG  - 9/7/04
E        - 5/1/05
D/Pe   - 4/22/07
Pl       - 3/22/09
HG/SS - 3/14/10
Gen5   - ???

There's always been at least 1-2 years between. Therefore, your point is moot. The cynics lose again!

Also, you can't get mad at Nintendo for trying to remain profitable. And, unless I'm mistaken, Pokemon is one of their most profitable franchises.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on February 06, 2010, 01:46:16 AM
It should have died back when the 2nd generation came out.
Great; another "such-and-such was better because I was an easily [tornado fang]ing impressed eight-year-old when it came out" heckler.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on February 06, 2010, 01:48:15 AM
Don't take the bait. I already proved his point to be moot.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Nekomata on February 06, 2010, 05:02:01 AM
Because with many more games to come, Megaman's suffering from the Scooby-Doo effect. Some new BS thing spewed out every few months. Eventually no one will care about it.
HAHAHA, fixing.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gaia on February 07, 2010, 12:32:19 AM
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2m7f145.png)

What's this [parasitic bomb] then? Found it on Pokemon-Diamond's (http://pokemon-diamond.deviantart.com/) recent journal (Kuribute, is that you on steroids?).
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sakura Leic on February 07, 2010, 12:37:49 AM
It almost looks like something copy righted from Digimon.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Klavier Gavin on February 07, 2010, 12:42:50 AM
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2m7f145.png)

What's this [parasitic bomb] then? Found it on Pokemon-Diamond's (http://pokemon-diamond.deviantart.com/) recent journal (Kuribute, is that you on steroids?).

Quote from: PokeBeach
Uploaded this literally ten seconds after it aired! Junichi Masuda's video message showed a silhouette of the new fifth-generation Pokemon codenamed "Z," as you can see below. It is in fact the "Z" from the 13th movie's title, The Ruler of Illusion: Z. This is the first new Pokemon in years! Pokemon Sunday will reveal the Pokemon in full on their February 21st show, which is in two weeks. CoroCoro magazine will be out before then and may reveal it first, though. How exciting is this?!

... Yep.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: HokutoNoBen on February 07, 2010, 12:44:09 AM
If I were a betting man? I would think this would be Lucario's next evolution.

But I'd like to be proven wrong, certainly! 8D
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gaia on February 07, 2010, 12:46:49 AM
If I were a betting man? I would think this would be Lucario's next evolution.

But I'd like to be proven wrong, certainly! 8D

I'd be willing to take your bet that it's a whole new entity entirely.. then again, the last set on some parts "improve" for better or worse, as adding an extra evolution to current pokemon or "baby-fy" one, and since the pokemon movies had no relation to the anime except the cast, along with hinting a new set (like Pokemon 4ever did, with Latios and Latias as the best example here), as movies always did.

I won't have my hopes set too high though. >.>
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: HokutoNoBen on February 07, 2010, 01:01:35 AM
Honestly, I'm just hoping that they would do more to give some more third stages for those Pokemon that need it.

There's still plenty of expansion that could be used for the 1st two generations, such that they don't need to scrape the bottom of the barrel for new designs but so quickly.

Besides...any thing would be preferable to what they did with 4th Gen. "Oh wait! Now we have ANOTHER electric rodent!"  -u-'
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gaia on February 07, 2010, 01:07:50 AM
Besides...any thing would be preferable to what they did with 4th Gen. "Oh wait! Now we have ANOTHER electric rodent!"  -u-'

Ben, I wholeheartly don't want to see another electric rat, either. I'd much see something new, like living statues. :)

And hopefully Nintendo could do some proper balancing too, I still remember those times a few pokemon were broked. Bleh.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: HokutoNoBen on February 07, 2010, 01:42:22 AM
Ben, I wholeheartly don't want to see another electric rat, either. I'd much see something new, like living statues. :)

And hopefully Nintendo could do some proper balancing too, I still remember those times a few pokemon were broked. Bleh.

With all the supposed "new features" that they're supposedly going to put in the next game, it's either going to be more balanced, or even more broken than before. It's just how these types of things work.  8D

I wonder if they'll do anything relating to EVs, though. The finer intricacies of "Pokemon Eugenics" never did anything for me, and as the system is now, I don't see that changing. So I'm interested in seeing what they'll do this time around.   
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Pringer X on February 07, 2010, 02:33:08 AM
^It'll probably stay the same, I doubt they'll raise the EV cap anytime soon, and even if they did, the end effect wouldn't change anything unless they ONLY changed the total limit, but then why bother?

The one thing I hate about any given generation reveal is the amount of fakes that show up and the misinformation that's bound to appear. I'm seriously not buying a single thing unless Coro Coro confirms it (they're the ones that are usually posting the latest up-to-date news about Pokemon for Japan).
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Hypershell on February 07, 2010, 03:35:09 AM
One thing I'd like to see is "baby" forms for Onix, Scyther, and Sneasel, so that way BR's "unevolved hatchling" matches can return without those three annihilating all the others.

If I were a betting man? I would think this would be Lucario's next evolution.
Related to Lucario or not I would bet it's going to replace him in Smash4.

And yeah, I'd like to be proven wrong too.

I wonder if they'll do anything relating to EVs, though. The finer intricacies of "Pokemon Eugenics" never did anything for me, and as the system is now, I don't see that changing. So I'm interested in seeing what they'll do this time around.
Now this, I'd be interested in.  The current EV system renders in-game Pokemon worthless for tournament play (without some serious berry pig-outs, anyway) and requires you to re-raise them completely depending on your focus on physical or special attacks.  You can't raise an all-rounder the way you could in 1st/2nd gen, and it makes experimenting much more difficult.

The stat-experience from the older games just made so much more sense to me.  The caps were pretty darn high, but other than that, the fact that the whole story playthrough experience was still valid for higher matches made the game a lot more accessible (not to mention it's nice that your starter is actually worth something at the end).  Now you try to raise a team for, say, Battle Revolution's Masters rounds, and God help you if you find out one of your team members needs a new EV spread.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sakura Leic on February 07, 2010, 03:50:44 AM

Now this, I'd be interested in.  The current EV system renders in-game Pokemon worthless for tournament play (without some serious berry pig-outs, anyway) and requires you to re-raise them completely depending on your focus on physical or special attacks.  You can't raise an all-rounder the way you could in 1st/2nd gen, and it makes experimenting much more difficult.

The stat-experience from the older games just made so much more sense to me.  The caps were pretty darn high, but other than that, the fact that the whole story playthrough experience was still valid for higher matches made the game a lot more accessible (not to mention it's nice that your starter is actually worth something at the end).  Now you try to raise a team for, say, Battle Revolution's Masters rounds, and God help you if you find out one of your team members needs a new EV spread.
Yes I hated the EV system in the newer games, the fact that I try hard to raise my pokemon the normal way and then get beaten by my friends rabid Eevees on EV steroids was not fun at all.  And not to mention it's takes way too long for me to even do it and I still mess up.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Kit on February 07, 2010, 03:55:27 AM
Yes I hated the EV system in the newer games, the fact that I try hard to raise my pokemon the normal way and then get beaten by my friends rabid Eevees on EV steroids was not fun at all.  And not to mention it's takes way too long for me to even do it and I still mess up.

I hate EVs too, Sakura.
This is why I wish they would make a Pokemon game where you can focus on more than just battling if you want.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sakura Leic on February 07, 2010, 04:08:10 AM
I hate EVs too, Sakura.
This is why I wish they would make a Pokemon game where you can focus on more than just battling if you want.
I mean back when I was like 7 or 10 I only trained my starter pokemon, Bulbasaur, and he was a major tank. I raised him to like level 76 and could take down anything in my path but I gave up because I knew I was doing wrong.  I did the same thing with Crystal, with Cyndaquil, but then I stopped doing before the 8th gym and raised other pokemon I caught or got 2 Eevees, Suicune, Skarmory, and a Smoochum.  I evolved the Eevees into Umbreon and Jolteon and took the down the elite 4 easily but I just gave up after Gary because I got bored.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Black Mage J on February 07, 2010, 04:14:57 AM
Evee, that little fox thing, oh I never touched that thing, it never appealed to me, ever. I mean its good it has the stones of the thing and turns to three different forms but aside from that it was....yeah. I would just get myself one of those flame ponies and be done with it. Boy, back in the olden days Pokemon was much simpler, catch 150 and you are the master. Now its catch 456 and become the master, and you have the eggs and the trade and the stones and the devolutions and the legendaries and HOIVEN GLAVEN!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on February 07, 2010, 04:36:15 AM
If I were a betting man? I would think this would be Lucario's next evolution.

Nah man, Lucario's already a good pokemon, he doesn't need an evolution. This one is gonna be for Luvdisc.

Trust me.




ps you guys seriously need to just get pokesav already tbh
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Hypershell on February 07, 2010, 04:52:38 AM
You're preaching to the choir for me, but I dislike hacking when not necessary.  First of all I want to do things as "legitimately" as possible, secondly it's tedious, and thirdly Rein hates Pokemon.  Pokemon carts carry two 256KB saves as a safeguard against corruption, and Rein can only find one of them (the game alternates), so whether you're hitting the "current" save of the "backup" save is a crapshoot.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Dr. Wily II on February 07, 2010, 05:12:10 AM
I'd much see something new, like living statues. :)
The Regis?
Regigigas in particular?
Baltoy and Claydol fits in a way too.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on February 07, 2010, 06:44:19 AM
I hate EVs too, Sakura.
This is why I wish they would make a Pokemon game where you can focus on more than just battling if you want.
Well, there are contests...
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on February 07, 2010, 11:05:45 AM
The one thing I hate about any given generation reveal is the amount of fakes that show up and the misinformation that's bound to appear.
What are you talking about, I really did find #152 Pikablu by trading with Pokeymon Purple
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Akira on February 07, 2010, 09:26:44 PM
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2m7f145.png)
 

Weregarurumon!!!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Kit on February 07, 2010, 09:38:12 PM
Weregarurumon!!!

LOL


Well, there are contests...

I like those and all but I'd like to be like a breeder or a ranger or something.
TEAM ROCKET
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Akira on February 07, 2010, 11:17:53 PM
Next Coro Coro Magazine   http://www.corocoro.tv/pokerelease/index.html

(http://i49.tinypic.com/2upqp1g.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: VixyNyan on February 07, 2010, 11:21:47 PM
February 15th? Hm~
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Acid on February 07, 2010, 11:28:21 PM
Yes I'm sure someone posted this already:

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/4296/johntalbain.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Hypershell on February 07, 2010, 11:36:56 PM
I like those and all but I'd like to be like a breeder or a ranger or something.
TEAM ROCKET
One thing I liked about Colosseum: You were actually a renegade from the local evil team.  It's the only time in the series history that you play as an established trainer and not some upstart hugging his mom goodbye.

The other thing would be that the Shadow mechanic encouraged actually raising/bonding with the guys instead of leaving them rot in the PC.  You weren't just trapping animals for an encyclopedia; rather they actually needed your care.  It's a shame they couldn't keep that as a sidequest in future titles; it works great as long as they don't go into overkill (which Gale of Darkness did, necessitating the Purification Chamber and defeating the whole point of purifying through bonding with a trainer).
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Alice in Entropy on February 07, 2010, 11:45:41 PM
Yes I'm sure someone posted this already:

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/4296/johntalbain.jpg)
JOHN TALBAIN.

THAT'S what it reminded me of.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Kit on February 08, 2010, 12:45:27 AM
Yes I'm sure someone posted this already:

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/4296/johntalbain.jpg)

JON TALBAIN YEAAAAAAAAAH
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Alice in Entropy on February 08, 2010, 12:49:45 AM
I always preffered Lawd Raptah meself. 8D

"MOI NAME IS RAPTAH."

Anyhow, these Pokemon games don't take long to come out, do they? xD
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Kit on February 08, 2010, 02:08:26 AM
I always preffered Lawd Raptah meself. 8D

"MOI NAME IS RAPTAH."

Anyhow, these Pokemon games don't take long to come out, do they? xD

I know right?
I just want a pokemon game where you can choose something other than battling.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gotham Ranger on February 08, 2010, 03:20:04 AM
Yes I'm sure someone posted this already:

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/4296/johntalbain.jpg)
YEEEEEEEES
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Pringer X on February 08, 2010, 06:51:53 AM
I know right?
I just want a pokemon game where you can choose something other than battling.

Personally I want one where you control the little suckers instead of essentially commanding them. You could make a pretty damn good fighting game with the right set-up, like each move being 'equippable' and costing x amount of points to equip so that the game isn't too broken, but each character still able to level up and whatnot. There's enough bi-pedal 'mons to work with it, and even so, you can still have the four legged Pokemon battle somehow.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Solar on February 08, 2010, 09:08:26 AM
So...you want Dissidia Pocket Monsters?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sakura Leic on February 08, 2010, 09:19:07 AM
Personally I want one where you control the little suckers instead of essentially commanding them. You could make a pretty damn good fighting game with the right set-up, like each move being 'equippable' and costing x amount of points to equip so that the game isn't too broken, but each character still able to level up and whatnot. There's enough bi-pedal 'mons to work with it, and even so, you can still have the four legged Pokemon battle somehow.
I don't know it just doesn't seem like fighting game material since you have to capture the pokemon and it's those kinds of games that have to be RPGs like Magination and Dragon Quest Monsters JOKER. 

What you described seems to be similar to the fighting system in Spectrobes, in my opinion and correct me if I'm wrong, but for me and my brother Spectrobes is a bit difficult to play and we didn't have any fun at all.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gotham Ranger on February 08, 2010, 02:04:43 PM
So...you want Dissidia Pocket Monsters?
Basically. The only other thing I can think of would be a real time movement system
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: SUIKA on February 08, 2010, 09:51:33 PM
I've been thinking it looks like something outta' Telefang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telefang).
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: VixyNyan on February 08, 2010, 10:55:16 PM
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/1265661924232.png)

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/1265662441851.png)
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on February 08, 2010, 11:06:18 PM
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/1265662441851.png)

I really like this one.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: borockman on February 08, 2010, 11:09:16 PM
Heh, is that a fan rendition? wouldn't surprised me if it's official.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sakura Leic on February 08, 2010, 11:12:36 PM
It almost kinda looks like Lucario.  The body type is similar albiet a little bigger and it's shoulder bands and eyes look like Lucario's as well although yellow.  Of course this is an outragous comparison.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gaia on February 09, 2010, 12:29:59 AM
Okay, first one's color choice does say it's gonna be Jon Tablain from the top of my head, then there's also this:

(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/038/0/8/The_new_5th_Gen__Pokemon__by_GetaZ.gif)
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sakura Leic on February 09, 2010, 12:42:23 AM
Okay, first one's color choice does say it's gonna be Jon Tablain from the top of my head, then there's also this:

(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/038/0/8/The_new_5th_Gen__Pokemon__by_GetaZ.gif)
Yay no more spiky chest so I can hug without pain! >0<
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: TeaOfJay on February 09, 2010, 12:45:04 AM
Bah, you're all wrong.

This is obviously the evolution for Dunsparce.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on February 09, 2010, 12:46:04 AM
The thighs alone give away that it's in the Riolu/Lucario line. Not to mention Lucario is one of Japan's "star" Pokemon (heck, Lucario was in Brawl), so it makes sense that one of the first ones they'd reveal is in that evo line.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Dr. Wily II on February 09, 2010, 03:56:10 AM
Well, some say it's an evolution for Mightyena, there's quite a resemblance.

Bah, you're all wrong.

This is obviously the evolution for Dunsparce.
LOL FINALLY
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on February 09, 2010, 04:50:22 AM
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/1265662441851.png)
y halo thar knuckles
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: SUIKA on February 09, 2010, 04:59:49 AM
I had a windbreaker from the Tokyo Pokemon Centre that had lineart of Lucario on the back with his name underneath :L

Let's keep in mind, children, that new Pokemon, when first revealed are usually accompanied by fan theories that make more sense than the reality much like this one. Another example would be how some people thought that Kricketot would be an ice / bug type because it looked like a small Santa Claus bug thing.

But it turned out to be another standard bug type.

I dunno'. I suppose Kricketot looks like a maestro too.

So I wouldn't be surprised if this thing turned out to be something completely new.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Kit on February 09, 2010, 05:08:01 AM
Lucario is ass.

Nintendo put Mewtwo back in the next Smash.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Pyro on February 10, 2010, 04:39:33 PM
Looks like they revealed who the first 5th Generation Pokemon is, and it's confirmed on Serebii.

[spoiler]http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

Looks like it's the Dark-type Zoroa/Zorua (the Evil Fox Pokemon) and Zoroaaku (the Monster Fox Pokemon). Is it me or does Zoroa look like the unholy spawn of Shinx and Miles "Tails" Prower?[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Lunar Knight Zeke on February 10, 2010, 04:44:38 PM
Looks like they revealed who the first 5th Generation Pokemon is, and it's confirmed on Serebii.

[spoiler]http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

Looks like it's the Dark-type Zoroa/Zorua (the Evil Fox Pokemon) and Zoroaaku (the Monster Fox Pokemon). Is it me or does Zoroa look like the unholy spawn of Shinx and Miles "Tails" Prower?[/spoiler]

This makes me wonder if the possible legendary pokemon are going to have a demon/denizen-of-hell theme.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Klavier Gavin on February 10, 2010, 04:45:27 PM
Looks like they revealed who the first 5th Generation Pokemon is, and it's confirmed on Serebii.

[spoiler]http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

Looks like it's the Dark-type Zoroa/Zorua (the Evil Fox Pokemon) and Zoroaaku (the Monster Fox Pokemon). Is it me or does Zoroa look like the unholy spawn of Shinx and Miles "Tails" Prower?[/spoiler]

Damn, that was quick! XD

Looks interesting.

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/1265662441851.png)

... SO close! XD
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gaia on February 10, 2010, 05:18:44 PM
Looks like your Regional dex #34 and Natl. Dex #352 type. Wouldn't mind having this fella in the party though.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on February 10, 2010, 07:11:55 PM
Evil Fox?  LoL, sold!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Akira on February 10, 2010, 07:23:13 PM
Looks like they revealed who the first 5th Generation Pokemon is, and it's confirmed on Serebii.

[spoiler]http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

Looks like it's the Dark-type Zoroa/Zorua (the Evil Fox Pokemon) and Zoroaaku (the Monster Fox Pokemon). Is it me or does Zoroa look like the unholy spawn of Shinx and Miles "Tails" Prower?[/spoiler]

Hmmm... Fox Monster/Demon... Youko Kurama XD lol
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on February 10, 2010, 10:17:30 PM
Interesting...
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: STM on February 10, 2010, 11:16:06 PM
I'm nicknaming mine Zorak.

Just saying.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on February 10, 2010, 11:23:50 PM
Haha, nice!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on February 10, 2010, 11:27:01 PM
Wow, I'm shocked. It was actually a new Pokemon.

BUT WAIT A MINUTE, we already have a fox line! Vulpix!
...
...oooooh, I get it.

Growlithe/Arcanine:Houndour/Houndoom::Vulpix/Ninetales::Zoroa/Zoroaku

I'm nicknaming mine Zorak.

Just saying.

But...but...that's what my Scyther's name is! :'(
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on February 10, 2010, 11:35:55 PM
Bobert for me. Although my starter will be Teira-Rin.

Wonder what the new Eeveelutions'll be... Dragon type? (Drakeon?) Steel? (Steeleon?) GHOST??? (Spectreon?)
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sakura Leic on February 10, 2010, 11:45:10 PM
Yay a new Dark pokemon and it looks cute and cool! 

Wonder what the new Eeveelutions'll be... Dragon type? (Drakeon?) Steel? (Steeleon?) GHOST??? (Spectreon?)

My money's on Steeleon because I can not see a dragon eeveelution.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Solar on February 11, 2010, 12:40:20 AM
I don't care what else they reveal, this is already one of my favorite gen5 pokemon.

Wonder what the new Eeveelutions'll be...

Whatever type is left to cover.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Pyro on February 11, 2010, 12:57:12 AM
Why do I get the feeling G5 will involve a Mirror Universe ala Star Trek? *That image of bearded Ash comes to mind*
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sky on February 11, 2010, 01:01:34 AM
so one of the new pokemon looks like a stereotypical furry
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on February 11, 2010, 01:05:19 AM
Why do I get the feeling G5 will involve a Mirror Universe ala Star Trek? *That image of bearded Ash comes to mind*

My guess is that evil Ash IS the Fox.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on February 11, 2010, 01:08:36 AM
My guess is that evil Ash IS the Fox.

So we get a dark Pokemon that can use Transform?

FINALLY!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on February 11, 2010, 01:15:22 AM
Looks like your Regional dex #34 and Natl. Dex #352 type.

huh?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gaia on February 11, 2010, 01:27:15 AM
Just sayin'. And I was guessing the pokedex entry, since seemingly Pikachu will remain #25 in the Pokedex for the rest of the series.

Speaking of which, anyone got ideas what this new Pokedex will look like?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on February 11, 2010, 01:33:17 AM
Well, the DS has been done already.

...

Virtual Boy? XD
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on February 11, 2010, 01:44:45 AM
Just sayin'. And I was guessing the pokedex entry, since seemingly Pikachu will remain #25 in the Pokedex for the rest of the series.

So you guess it'll be number 352. Even though we already have a 352.


Just another RPM genius I guess.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gaia on February 11, 2010, 01:47:38 AM
[parasitic bomb], stand corrected, I was going for 532, guess I undershot.  :|

Yeah, betting this will be another 32 entry of the standard 'dex anyway.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Kit on February 11, 2010, 04:52:37 AM
Well, the DS has been done already.

...

Virtual Boy? XD

A thousand times this.
VIRTUAL REALITY GOGGLES
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: borockman on February 11, 2010, 05:06:26 AM
Ah, so it's a whole new pokemon, I love it.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on February 11, 2010, 08:14:45 AM
Wonder what the new Eeveelutions'll be... Dragon type? (Drakeon?) Steel? (Steeleon?) GHOST??? (Spectreon?)
That'd be so awesome if we got a Fight-type Eeveelution named 'Champeon"!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on February 11, 2010, 09:12:10 PM
Lessee, we already have:
Water - Vaporeon
Electric - Jolteon
Fire - Flareon
Psychic - Espeon
Dark - Umbreon
Grass - Leafeon
Ice - Glaceon

So we need:
Fighting - Champeon?
Flying - Glideon?
Poison - Toxeon?
Ground - Chasmeon?
Rock - Stoneon?
Bug - Anteon?
Ghost - Spectreon?
Steel - Steeleon?
Dragon - Drakeon?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: ViperAcidZX on February 11, 2010, 11:53:08 PM
Over 600 Pokemons... *faints*
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Dr. Wily II on February 12, 2010, 09:29:41 AM
Well, took me long enough to comment on this. XD
The thing is, I'm more intrigued at the text in the images.

Quote
"Could we see a new method of evolution!?"
The evolution of Zorua to Zoroark is a new method to the games.

INTRIGUING
And yes, I like his design too. XD
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: STM on February 12, 2010, 03:50:14 PM
The introduction of the Shadow Stone, I bet...
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Dr. Wily II on February 12, 2010, 03:58:36 PM
But there's the Dusk Stone! XD
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Solar on February 12, 2010, 05:54:45 PM
Well, took me long enough to comment on this. XD
The thing is, I'm more intrigued at the text in the images.
The evolution of Zorua to Zoroark is a new method to the games.

INTRIGUING
And yes, I like his design too. XD

Evolution by hate? It'd be an interesting concept.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Dr. Wily II on February 13, 2010, 12:10:15 PM
But then, it would be similar to the happiness quota... :P

Though, being able to act like Silver or Paul... HMM.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Archer on February 13, 2010, 12:12:07 PM
Though, being able to act like Silver or Paul... HMM.
That's my kinda game.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Frenger on February 14, 2010, 12:05:24 AM
If there were customization for the character you play as, that would be a dream come true. Deciding the background story of your character, how awesome wouldn't that be?  owob
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gotham Ranger on February 14, 2010, 07:19:52 AM
I think having the option to get more interactive with your pokemon would be fun to get results like beating them to make them powerful but hate you. Option, that is. Not mandatory.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: VixyNyan on February 14, 2010, 04:20:50 PM
Gen 5? What about Gen 0? I want to play that! owo

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pocketmonstersepiamonochrome.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Dr. Wily II on February 14, 2010, 04:31:56 PM
>U<
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/959/3fc202bcbdf85632cca73e7.jpg)
[spoiler=Pokemon Sepia and Pokemon Monochrome 8D]
This Pokemon is a story from the past!
Before Pokemon Red, Green, Blue on the Gameboy, in area where the Pokemon have yet to be mapped out. Go on an adverture to study Pokemon as a young Professor!
The main characters are Professor Oak and Agatha of the Elite Four!
Your Pokedex is a sketchbook!
A collection of the Pokemon you've found using the stylus; A Pokedex unique to you!
Pick for 3 starter Pokemon! (D'aww at baby Articuno, Moltres and Zapdos)
Samuel and Agatha: The story changes depending on which one you choose.
[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on February 14, 2010, 09:00:10 PM
Hahaha, BABY ARTICUNO.  PB WANT! 
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: VirusChris on February 14, 2010, 09:35:59 PM
Holy crud! That's awesome!

I think I'll go with Baby Zapdos! By the way what is the name of these titles?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: VixyNyan on February 14, 2010, 09:45:11 PM
セピア = Sepia
モノクロ = Monochrome

And Baby Articuno for me~ <3
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: DarkWaltz on February 14, 2010, 10:02:13 PM
I want the baby Moltres, it's so cute!  <3
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Alice in Entropy on February 14, 2010, 10:04:35 PM
...

If that story is true...

Oh god, I think my soul just smiled.

I like the baby Articuno, myself. =D
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on February 14, 2010, 10:21:23 PM
I'd buy this in a heartbeat!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gotham Ranger on February 14, 2010, 11:47:49 PM
Is there a baby Aerodactyl? I bet that one just looks adorable :3

(A baby legendary turkey team? [tornado fang] yes)
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Rad Lionheart on February 15, 2010, 12:39:36 AM
That Zapdos is cute as hell. XD
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Nekomata on February 15, 2010, 02:30:51 AM
Is there a baby Aerodactyl? I bet that one just looks adorable :3

(A baby legendary turkey team? [tornado fang] yes)
the fossils should be wild encounters :v
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sakura Leic on February 15, 2010, 03:19:19 AM
I want a baby Articuno, it's my favorite out of all the birds.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Kit on February 15, 2010, 05:06:13 AM
Oh wow this would be awesome to play.
Title: Pokemon 5th gen is PKMN Black and White, more info next week.
Post by: Solar on April 09, 2010, 06:17:45 AM
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/bw/index.html


One has to wonder why it took them so long to use Black and White for a Pokemon game.

Edit: Oh right, almost forgot, it'll be released this autumn unless my kanji skills fail me.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Rad Lionheart on April 09, 2010, 06:22:20 AM
Yeah, it took them long enough.
Also, that soon huh? Well that's cool too.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Harruhy on April 09, 2010, 06:22:31 AM
Black? White? No.
They will be Dark, and Light.

And the third game for the fifth gen will be Annihilator. [/MP2]
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 09, 2010, 06:23:37 AM
What's the companion game gonna be? Gray?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Rad Lionheart on April 09, 2010, 06:24:18 AM
I like the idea of Black and White, cause obviously it's going to create a lot of racist jokes, and this is the internet after all.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 09, 2010, 06:25:51 AM
SHOW ME MY FIRE STARTER!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Rad Lionheart on April 09, 2010, 06:26:57 AM
In due time we will know what our fire starter will be.
But my guess is the first couple gyms will be resistant/strong against Fire.
AS ALWAYS.
[tornado fang].
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Solar on April 09, 2010, 06:27:59 AM
Can't we have starters of another type for once? Please?  O^O

...who am I kidding, that's never gonna happen.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Harruhy on April 09, 2010, 06:29:40 AM
SHOW ME MY FIRE STARTER!

(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5069/1270786903097.jpg)

8D
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 09, 2010, 06:32:23 AM
So grass-type is a peacock, fire-type is a dinosaur, and water-type is a bull. Hmmm... WHERE'S MAH WOMBAT POKEMON?
Title: Re: Pokemon 5th gen is PKMN Black and White, more info next week.
Post by: borockman on April 09, 2010, 06:37:22 AM
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/bw/index.html


One has to wonder why it took them so long to use Black and White for a Pokemon game.

Edit: Oh right, almost forgot, it'll be released this autumn unless my kanji skills fail me.

Lol Black and White? I bet MJ's Black or White will be the title music.  8D

and you're right it's autumn 2010.
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5069/1270786903097.jpg)

8D
This is cool, though I'm sure this is fanart.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Rad Lionheart on April 09, 2010, 06:39:04 AM
Pretty cool though, I'd be happy with a Fire-Dinosaur.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 09, 2010, 06:39:48 AM
We need a pantsless duck pokemon!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 09, 2010, 06:40:42 AM
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5069/1270786903097.jpg)

8D

Wait, seriously?  SERIOUSLY!  FIRE STARTER STEGOSAURUS? 

[tornado fang] YES!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Solar on April 09, 2010, 06:41:07 AM
This is cool, though I'm sure this is fanart.

I believe that was the point :P
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Harruhy on April 09, 2010, 06:47:36 AM
Imagine, if instead of just three starters, they do what they did with Pokemon Yellow. 8D
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Rad Lionheart on April 09, 2010, 06:49:43 AM
Toss you an electric rat and say "have at" and you're all like "c'mon little guy" and he's all like "[tornado fang] YOU. I HATE YOU X" and you're all like ":C"
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: borockman on April 09, 2010, 07:15:08 AM
I really like the grass peacock though, smart I'd say.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Solar on April 09, 2010, 07:19:21 AM
Oh, and I'll be the first here to say it. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NO MORE ZUBATS AND GEODUDES IN CAVES! DX
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Archer on April 09, 2010, 07:22:39 AM
No more Tentacool in the water either >_>
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: borockman on April 09, 2010, 07:23:25 AM
Too bad for you it's the staple of any cavern stages....

and just because you said that, they will be there in the caves!  8D

But I'm sure deep down in your heart you knew it's coming.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 09, 2010, 07:24:34 AM
Definitely. Try something new!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Solar on April 09, 2010, 07:25:20 AM
They really need to change it though, each region should have a staple cavern/water pokemon just like they have their staple normal/flying pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Jericho on April 09, 2010, 07:31:14 AM
Black? White? No.
They will be Dark, and Light.

And the third game for the fifth gen will be Annihilator. [/MP2]

Perfect. Also [tornado fang] you HG/SS for getting me back into this series. XD

Now I want to actually invest time into getting Diamond, Pearl, or Platinum. Ten these games are supposed to be out by fall? [tornado fang].
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 09, 2010, 07:32:41 AM
Black and White?

Can't wait for the third version, Pokémon Brown. </lame racist joke>
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Harruhy on April 09, 2010, 07:33:32 AM
REPRESENTIN'
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Solar on April 09, 2010, 07:34:46 AM
Perfect. Also [tornado fang] you HG/SS for getting me back into this series. XD

Now I want to actually invest time into getting Diamond, Pearl, or Platinum. Ten these games are supposed to be out by fall? [tornado fang].

Remember Jeri, that's Japan, you still have until next May/April XD
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gotham Ranger on April 09, 2010, 08:54:44 AM
I can't wait to pick up White Shadow
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Jericho on April 09, 2010, 09:40:28 AM
Calling it now, America's going to get Pokemon Dawn & Pokemon Dusk versions. XD
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: borockman on April 09, 2010, 10:24:40 AM
Or Pokemon Light and Pokemon Shadow.  8D
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Flame on April 09, 2010, 10:26:50 AM
If they ACTUALLY named the Black and White, (by some miracle of localization totally missing possible racist problems) it would be so cool. like back in the old days, when they were named after colors. SIMPLE colors. yellow. green. red. BLACK. WHITE
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 09, 2010, 10:43:03 AM
But I'm half black & half white.  WHICH ONE WILL I CHOOSE?  I MIGHT HAVE TO GET BOTH ON SHEER PRINCIPAL ALONE!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: STM on April 09, 2010, 10:59:55 AM
Watch them be renamed Ebony Version and Ivory Version here.

Damn overly-sensitive fucks in this country.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Rad Lionheart on April 09, 2010, 11:04:32 AM
I like the sounds of Ebony and Ivory versions.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Jericho on April 09, 2010, 11:09:48 AM
Watch them be renamed Ebony Version and Ivory Version here.

Damn overly-sensitive fucks in this country.

As much as the principle behind a name change for AMERIKUH bothers me, this [parasitic bomb] sounds awesome. XD
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on April 09, 2010, 02:03:47 PM
If we get Pokemon Dark and Light, than we will get as Special Edition Pokemon Twilight.  :V
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 09, 2010, 07:03:05 PM
WILD EDWARD APPEARS!

Also, Klavier, someone hacked Pokemon Red DAYS ago and made Pokemon Brown. Imagine their surprise if by some freak quirk of fate that's what they chose.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Karai on April 09, 2010, 07:44:34 PM
Oh, and I'll be the first here to say it. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NO MORE ZUBATS AND GEODUDES IN CAVES! DX
NO >:[
It's the first thing I catch. Zubat ~> Crobat <3
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Solar on April 09, 2010, 08:52:38 PM
I'm not saying take them out entirely, just don't put them in every single *****ing cave or rock formation known to man.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on April 09, 2010, 09:11:27 PM
Confirmation of fifth gen makes for a happy Spectro.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Dexter Dexter on April 09, 2010, 09:19:04 PM
TURN TO THE DARK SIDE
Seriously, they had to be black and white? Why not scarlet and indigo?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 09, 2010, 09:23:42 PM
They want Pokemon Gray. So we'll have Silver (which is gray), Platinum (also gray) and... Gray (umm... yeah... gray too).
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: HokutoNoBen on April 09, 2010, 11:10:34 PM
But I'm half black & half white.  WHICH ONE WILL I CHOOSE?  I MIGHT HAVE TO GET BOTH ON SHEER PRINCIPAL ALONE!

No, Blues. THE TIME HAS COME! "One drop" principle states that the choice is CLEAR for you, my brutha! 8D

Any way, interesting that they went straight monochrome this time. I wonder if that was for an actual reason, and not just cuz they didn't have any better picks for colors/basic elements. Could this going back to such basic colors mean some thing more...?

For example, one thing I've always thought was interesting was how there's been a thing of how the games told snippets of what the world was like back in the olden days of man and mon. In HG/SS, they even went forth to tell you that Apricots used to be the way they got [parasitic bomb] done when they wanted to catch some Mons. So, I'm wondering...maybe instead of just going to a new region, this time, maybe they could throw us for a loop and into the context of an older era, itself. One where we have to use the Apricots, and get access to a slew of Pokemon that would otherwise be possibly extinct in the "modern" era. 

If nothing else, it could be an opportunity for a nice change, storyline and aesthetic-wise, even as a number of things still remain the same. (Re: instead of "gyms", it could be "dojos" dedicated to a certain type of Pokemon instead. 8D)

Not to mention Celebi being at least ONE Pokemon that can time travel would always leave the opportunity for these types of shenanigans to take place in the first place... 8D
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 09, 2010, 11:17:23 PM
That was a central element to Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky's storyline; that Celebi could send things back through time. So I wouldn't be surprised.

Also, quoted from ZFGC about this.
Quote from: Mamoruanime
I just found some leaked info on Black/White!

Apparently they're bringing back the same "select your name" conventions from Gen 1 and 2!!!

Here's what they have-

Pokemon White
  • White
  • Steve
  • Chad
  • Todd

Pokemon Black
  • Black
  • Anferny
  • TeQuan
  • Tyrese

Official.
Quote from: Shefali
Here's the choices for female characters:

Pokemon White
  • White
  • Stacy
  • Marsha
  • Christina

Pokemon Black
  • Black
  • Laquesha
  • Shaniqua
  • Condoleezza

Official.

I hope that part about the name list is true... you might be on to something if it is, Hokuto.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Akira on April 09, 2010, 11:24:43 PM
Hmmm.. Pokémon White and Black... I was expected that.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: HokutoNoBen on April 09, 2010, 11:54:40 PM
Oh gawd, at that list, Mirby.  XD XD XD
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Black Mage J on April 09, 2010, 11:55:45 PM
Aw hell no.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: VixyNyan on April 09, 2010, 11:59:02 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjZwi_PJiio[/youtube]
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Jericho on April 10, 2010, 12:00:34 AM
Mirby wins this round. I lost it at TeQuan. XD XD XD
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Acid on April 10, 2010, 12:05:18 AM
I will get neither.

(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/6600/353pxneutralpresident.jpg)

Or both.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 10, 2010, 12:16:51 AM
hehe Acid...
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Rad Lionheart on April 10, 2010, 12:21:57 AM
He has no strong feelings about this whatsoever.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: HokutoNoBen on April 10, 2010, 12:38:57 AM
Mirby wins this round. I lost it at TeQuan. XD XD XD

Shaniqua alone was enough.  owob

Any way, it seems tomorrow's Pokemon Sunday probably won't tell us too much. Reportedly, we're REALLY not going to get much of anything substantial until the 15th.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Flame on April 10, 2010, 02:58:07 AM
Actually, Remembering Battle network 3...

theyl just change the Black. >3>
To some other dark color. like- Navy.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 10, 2010, 02:59:33 AM
POKEMON LIGHT! POKEMON SHADOW! POKEMON GRAY!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Harruhy on April 10, 2010, 06:57:03 AM
Wait, what? Jamal isn't on the list for Pokémon Black?

Also, there should be only one beginner in each game.
Black will have Jynx.
White will maybe have Mr. Mime.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Rad Lionheart on April 10, 2010, 06:58:40 AM
I haven't got a response to that... XD
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Harruhy on April 10, 2010, 06:59:40 AM
No response is better than a bad response. 8D
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Flame on April 10, 2010, 07:29:58 AM
Wait, what? Jamal isn't on the list for Pokémon Black?

Also, there should be only one beginner in each game.
Black will have Jynx.
White will maybe have Mr. Mime.
You just made me lol
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 10, 2010, 08:02:38 AM
No, Blues. THE TIME HAS COME! "One drop" principle states that the choice is CLEAR for you, my brutha! 8D

Any way, interesting that they went straight monochrome this time. I wonder if that was for an actual reason, and not just cuz they didn't have any better picks for colors/basic elements. Could this going back to such basic colors mean some thing more...?

For example, one thing I've always thought was interesting was how there's been a thing of how the games told snippets of what the world was like back in the olden days of man and mon. In HG/SS, they even went forth to tell you that Apricots used to be the way they got [parasitic bomb] done when they wanted to catch some Mons. So, I'm wondering...maybe instead of just going to a new region, this time, maybe they could throw us for a loop and into the context of an older era, itself. One where we have to use the Apricots, and get access to a slew of Pokemon that would otherwise be possibly extinct in the "modern" era. 

If nothing else, it could be an opportunity for a nice change, storyline and aesthetic-wise, even as a number of things still remain the same. (Re: instead of "gyms", it could be "dojos" dedicated to a certain type of Pokemon instead. 8D)

Not to mention Celebi being at least ONE Pokemon that can time travel would always leave the opportunity for these types of shenanigans to take place in the first place... 8D

Story?  LoL, I just wanna be the best like no one ever was!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 10, 2010, 08:14:48 AM
YOU ALREADY ARE!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gotham Ranger on April 10, 2010, 08:15:40 AM
Story?  LoL, I just wanna be the best like no one ever was!
To catch them is my real test..
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Archer on April 10, 2010, 08:17:55 AM
TO TRAIN THEM IS MY CAUSE!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 10, 2010, 08:20:17 AM
and to destroy the joke is my accidental job, I guess... damn.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gotham Ranger on April 10, 2010, 08:24:01 AM
TO TRAIN THEM IS MY CAUSE!
I will travel across the land!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 10, 2010, 08:27:35 AM
Searching far and wide?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Harruhy on April 10, 2010, 08:46:38 AM
Each Pokémon to understand,
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gotham Ranger on April 10, 2010, 08:49:29 AM
The power that's insiiiide!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Archer on April 10, 2010, 08:52:03 AM
Pokemon!
It's you and me.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Harruhy on April 10, 2010, 08:58:15 AM
Pokemon!

Gotta catch 'em all!

It's you and me.

I KNOW IT'S MY DESTINY
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Flame on April 10, 2010, 09:01:01 AM
POKEMON!
OOOOH YOU'RE MY BEST FRIEEEEEND...
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Harruhy on April 10, 2010, 09:04:33 AM
IN A WORLD WE MUST DEFEND!

POKEMON! GOTTA CATCH 'EM ALL!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 10, 2010, 09:04:59 AM
And now back to our regularly scheduled thread...
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Harruhy on April 10, 2010, 09:06:24 AM
And now back to our regularly scheduled thread...

OUR HEARTS SO TRUE
OUR COURAGE WILL PULL US THROUGH
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Archer on April 10, 2010, 09:07:05 AM
You teach me and I'll teach you
Pokemon!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Harruhy on April 10, 2010, 09:07:51 AM
Gotta catch 'em all!
GOTTA CATCH 'EM AAAAAAAAAAAALL!

POKEMON!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 10, 2010, 09:16:42 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOsdy1ZsXUs[/youtube]

ON THE ROAD TO VIRIDIAN CIIIIIIIITY!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Flame on April 10, 2010, 10:09:45 AM
I miss the original pokemon. God. Now I feel nostalgic.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Harruhy on April 10, 2010, 10:16:54 AM
ON THE ROAD TO VIRIDIAN CIIIIIIIITY!

Very tempted to put the rest of the lyrics in the thread like before, but ah well.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gotham Ranger on April 10, 2010, 10:29:21 AM
I'm so glad this board is awesome enough to get into song mode in a thread. I love you mother fuckers <3
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Flame on April 10, 2010, 10:33:02 AM
Very tempted to put the rest of the lyrics in the thread like before, but ah well.
HOW DO YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT POKEMON JOHTO?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 10, 2010, 11:21:07 AM
POKEMON JOHTO

Do-do-do, Do, Do-do-do!

Do-do-do, Do, Do-do-do!


... Posting since I was asleep and missed all of the fun. :v
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Archer on April 10, 2010, 01:55:07 PM
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/685/image3big.jpg) (http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/2823/citybig.jpg)

Those are some pretty tall buildings there...
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Flame on April 10, 2010, 03:28:15 PM
Do-do-do, Do, Do-do-do!

Do-do-do, Do, Do-do-do!


... Posting since I was asleep and missed all of the fun. :v
EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE A MASTER...
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Jericho on April 10, 2010, 04:05:14 PM
Man you all suck, you didn't even do the extended cut of the original theme. That said:

Everybody wants to show their skills...
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 10, 2010, 04:19:50 PM
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/685/image3big.jpg) (http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/2823/citybig.jpg)

Those are some pretty tall buildings there...

Tall buildings, indeed.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2010, 04:23:29 PM
...no more Pokemon following you around? ;__;
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 10, 2010, 04:25:36 PM
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2w38a4z.jpg)(http://i41.tinypic.com/jadz10.jpg)(http://i43.tinypic.com/30rsfly.jpg)(http://i40.tinypic.com/24eu9gl.jpg)(http://i41.tinypic.com/b8w8di.jpg)

...no more Pokemon following you around? ;__;

Apparently not. D:
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Jericho on April 10, 2010, 04:29:28 PM
Whoa, they're really going beyond the norm with this on--

...no more Pokemon following you around? ;__;
Apparently not. D:

 :'(
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 10, 2010, 04:50:08 PM
Oh, forgot to post this;

Quote from: PokéBeach
The first CoroCoro magazine scans have been leaked on to the Internet, revealing game screenshots of Pokemon Black and Pokemon White. The magazine dedicated two pages to the news, both of which are below along with close-up images of some of their sections; click them for larger images.

The female character is wearing a pink and white hat, pink clothing, and has a ponytail; the male character is wearing blue clothing, has bushy hair, and is apparently wearing the same hat, but turned backwards. Judging by the screenshot where the clerk is talking to the female player in the Pokemon Center’s Poke Mart, it appears that characters will now speak through speech bubbles. In terms of graphics, the battle system seems to have been overhauled, showing the full back sprite of Zoroark instead of just its upper body. Next to the screenshot where the male character is standing on the bridge, CoroCoro mentions that players will be able to ride a never-before-seen vehicle. There appears to be some sort of car next to the bridge, so perhaps it is the vehicle in question. Other than this blurb, CoroCoro does not reveal anything significant about the games other than the obvious fact that they will rely more heavily on 3D graphics, as seen in the various terrains.

It might just be the scans, but it looks like the nurse at the Pokemon Center has brown hair. Either Nurse Joy is trying a new style or she’s simply not Nurse Joy, which could mean we are far, far away from the past four regions (where the Joys have not reproduced like bunnies and invaded). The PC inside the Pokemon Center seems pretty retro too - it uses a CRT monitor rather than the modern LCD screens the modern, real-world uses and that the past few games have used. Different time, different place? And then there’s black and white, old “colors.” I could be looking too much into all of this, though. :D

Pokemon Sunday will announce the games on their show tomorrow morning in Japan, which is actually this afternoon in U.S. time. When they do, we’ll post all the information they reveal, so be sure to check back here later today!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Hypershell on April 10, 2010, 05:04:01 PM
...no more Pokemon following you around? ;__;
(http://mysite.verizon.net/~Serpentara/steamroller.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2010, 05:08:01 PM
Yeah, really hoping this is just a beta thing and it's still there in the final product ;___;

Honestly, I'm not really liking the male MC so far...
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sub Tank on April 10, 2010, 06:08:35 PM
LET'S ENHANCE THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF POKEMON, THE WORLD MAP!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Acid on April 10, 2010, 06:43:36 PM
I actually wanted to get back into Pokemon with HG/SS


But I'll skip them now.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sub Tank on April 10, 2010, 06:47:34 PM
I'm going to wait for Pokemon Rainbow and Pokemon Colorblind.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on April 10, 2010, 06:51:14 PM
Oh god, not this too.

Why is Nintendo suddenly into extra-jaggy 3D? As glad as I am to see Golden Sun, it looks terrible, and this isn't much better!

Who's smoking what around there?!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Acid on April 10, 2010, 06:55:17 PM
I'm going to wait for Pokemon Rainbow and Pokemon Colorblind.

What about Pokemon Left and Right?

And Pokemon Up and Down?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Harruhy on April 10, 2010, 06:58:19 PM
Quote from: PokéBeach
CoroCoro mentions that players will be able to ride a never-before-seen vehicle

Just use the [tornado fang]ing skateboard idea from G/S/C. God damn it Nintendo.

Also, for some reason, I would not be surprised if this was actually set in the past of Pokémon. Maybe the protagonists are characters we already know.


Naaaaaaaaah.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 10, 2010, 09:10:35 PM
I actually wanted to get back into Pokemon with HG/SS


But I'll skip them now.

You shouldn't.  They're really good.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: KoiDrake on April 10, 2010, 09:24:06 PM
Just use the [tornado fang]ing skateboard idea from G/S/C. God damn it Nintendo.
They should make ride-able pokemons, just like WoW

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c356/Doomsiren/rofl.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 10, 2010, 09:28:24 PM
I WANT TO RIDE A GIANT BEAGLE!

Also, looks good. Glad to see they *kinda* enhanced the battle system...
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Karai on April 10, 2010, 09:52:34 PM
Hah, I was expecting full 3D, like DQM:Joker. Maybe at least sprites during battle will be a little more animated.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 10, 2010, 09:58:05 PM
Hopefully.
Quote from: #ocremix yesterday
Apr 09 16:15:30 <BardicKnowledge>   yes, not the same elemental starters would help a bunch also
Apr 09 16:15:35 <OCRE>   But I'm talking about gameplay elements
Apr 09 16:15:39 <OCRE>   how do you want that to change
Apr 09 16:15:39 <Mirby>   hmm...
Apr 09 16:15:43 <OCRE>   or how do you think that could change
Apr 09 16:15:53 <Mirby>   More 2-on-2 battles; more animation and interaction between the pokemon
Apr 09 16:16:02 <OCRE>   i was thinking, better battle backgrounds. and having weather effects be more passiev
Apr 09 16:16:02 <Mirby>   Or the trainers when they pop in
Apr 09 16:16:04 <OCRE>   passive*
Apr 09 16:16:10 <Mirby>   Yeah...
Apr 09 16:16:22 <OCRE>   like, have it actually keep raining instead of just off an on telling you "it's rainig"
Apr 09 16:16:24 <OCRE>   raining*
Apr 09 16:16:25 <BardicKnowledge>   emphasis on team battles -- let's see 3v3 battles instead of just 2v2.  Also, weather effects have a stronger effect on combat that doesn't always benefit one side or the other
Apr 09 16:16:34 <Mirby>   More cutscenes such as the Groudon/Kyogre battle and Rayquaza's intervention in Emerald
Apr 09 16:16:38 <OCRE>   3 vs 3 huh?
Apr 09 16:16:39 <Mirby>   Those were cool; I loved that
Apr 09 16:16:41 <OCRE>   i duno about that
Apr 09 16:16:42 <BardicKnowledge>   for instance, water attacks are stronger in water
Apr 09 16:16:43 <Mirby>   yeah 3v3
Apr 09 16:16:59 <Mirby>   Ice is 1.5x damage in water
Apr 09 16:17:00 <OCRE>   they need to de-noobify grass
Just a snippet of what me and a couple others think could be improved too...
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Hypershell on April 10, 2010, 10:14:33 PM
I don't think more than 2 vs 2 would be feasible.  The problem is, once 2 vs 2 has established how multi-target moves work, then the more combatants you add, the more broken it becomes.

Frankly, the most disappointing thing I'm seeing about this is that it's being unveiled before the 3DS.  I mean, who gives a damn about new visuals in a Pokemon game (which are not specs-pushers to begin with; and this is really just the same style with a different camera angle and larger sprites) when a new handheld is on the way?

You shouldn't.  They're really good.
Truth.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Harruhy on April 10, 2010, 10:18:39 PM
Quote
Apr 09 16:16:25 <BardicKnowledge> Also, weather effects have a stronger effect on combat that doesn't always benefit one side or the other
Apr 09 16:16:42 <BardicKnowledge>   for instance, water attacks are stronger in water
Apr 09 16:16:43 <Mirby>   yeah 3v3
Apr 09 16:16:59 <Mirby>   Ice is 1.5x damage in water

Eh, environment effects making it so Type moves do more damage... I dunno, I just don't like the idea.

who gives a damn about new visuals in a Pokemon game

Not very many people, seeing as it hasn't changed tremendously in the past few years. It's not just the fact that the 3DS is on it's way, people just don't care much for INCREDIBLE graphics with Pokémon games.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 10, 2010, 10:41:36 PM
It's all about the gameplay, amirite?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sub Tank on April 10, 2010, 10:52:36 PM
It's all about the gameplay, amirite?

It's about the underage pokemon girls.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 10, 2010, 10:54:18 PM
It's about the underage pokemon girls.

Gotta catch em' all?  XD
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sub Tank on April 10, 2010, 10:56:22 PM
Yes

(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/681/1270930723733.png)

(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6352/1270931106078.png)
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 10, 2010, 10:57:43 PM
Ah, I see...

HER CLOTHES CHANGE COLORS!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 10, 2010, 11:00:22 PM
Very simple outfit, I must say!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sub Tank on April 10, 2010, 11:01:17 PM
I like the socks.  Everything else can go.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 10, 2010, 11:06:21 PM
The socks are nice...
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on April 10, 2010, 11:07:17 PM
And her toes might smell delicious.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gaia on April 10, 2010, 11:08:49 PM
Where's the male hero artwork?  -_-
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 10, 2010, 11:09:17 PM
I like the socks.  Everything else can go.

The hat is nice though.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Sub Tank on April 10, 2010, 11:09:53 PM
Yeah the hat can stay on too I guess.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on April 10, 2010, 11:11:37 PM
I wonder if she is good in the bed like Arche. 8D
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 10, 2010, 11:11:51 PM
Or at least keep the pony tail.  I'm a sucker for pony tails!   8)
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 10, 2010, 11:13:17 PM
I like the hair... wish mine was that long...
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on April 10, 2010, 11:15:23 PM
Then you have simply to wait for such long hair. I got my long hair for a long time.  8)

Atleast the Pokemon Special Manga will get three new protagonists, after the HG/SS arc.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: CephiYumi on April 10, 2010, 11:19:35 PM
Or at least keep the pony tail.  I'm a sucker for pony tails!   8)

 8D
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 10, 2010, 11:21:41 PM
8D

Wait a minute...I just noticed that the trainer looks awfully Cephiyummy!   8)
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: CephiYumi on April 10, 2010, 11:23:06 PM
Yep, i think so too~  :3
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 10, 2010, 11:28:33 PM
SOMEONE'S BEEN WATCHIN' RPM! OH NOES!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Akira on April 10, 2010, 11:33:59 PM
Yes

(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/681/1270930723733.png)

(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6352/1270931106078.png)


Moar Loli, want !
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on April 10, 2010, 11:49:53 PM
If I only was in the same age, than there would be nights you couldn´t imagine in your dreams.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: HokutoNoBen on April 11, 2010, 01:35:56 AM
As stated, PokeSunday didn't do anything but reveal the names. Ah well, back to the 15th!

Consolation prize!

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f278/katietiedrich/comic146.png)
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Akira on April 11, 2010, 01:44:03 AM
HAHAHAHA! XD XD
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gaia on April 11, 2010, 01:45:50 AM
Moar Loli, want !

Careful what you wish for.. It's not all what it seems..   [eyebrow]
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Jericho on April 11, 2010, 01:54:06 AM
Consolation prize!

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f278/katietiedrich/comic146.png)

So good. XD
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Dexter Dexter on April 11, 2010, 02:10:41 AM
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f278/katietiedrich/comic146.png)
That is so sad.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Hypershell on April 11, 2010, 03:07:09 AM
Wait a minute...I just noticed that the trainer looks awfully Cephiyummy!   8)
...she does, doesn't she?  Especially that second one with the floaty-arms-walking pose. :V
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gotham Ranger on April 11, 2010, 08:15:09 AM
Yes

(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/681/1270930723733.png)

(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6352/1270931106078.png)

I'd lock it in my basement
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gaia on April 11, 2010, 07:04:58 PM
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2dlpy00.jpg)

You might want some intrest in this.. if this could be real. People are starting to take advantage of the fifth gen.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 11, 2010, 07:10:38 PM
Translation, please?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Acid on April 11, 2010, 07:14:36 PM
Firesnake?

Count me in.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Blackhook on April 11, 2010, 07:16:29 PM
My two favourite types combined in one? HUZZAH!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 11, 2010, 07:18:08 PM
Deer, Dolphin, Snake. Three things that some people eat.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Blackhook on April 11, 2010, 07:21:31 PM
That is a scary thing to notice
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 11, 2010, 07:23:34 PM
I've probably eaten all three of those myself; although I might not have noticed the dolphin...
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Solar on April 11, 2010, 07:59:13 PM
I really want those starters, they look great. Too bad they're fake, oh well.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Harruhy on April 11, 2010, 11:48:40 PM
(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/681/1270930723733.png)

(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6352/1270931106078.png)

Oh boy. *unzips*

I mean...

(http://i39.tinypic.com/2dlpy00.jpg)

This disappoints me greatly, except for the deer thing. Hopefully the fire starter isn't as shitty as it looks.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Akira on April 11, 2010, 11:52:20 PM
I've found this in a Spanish site www.emudesc.net, and Junichi Masuda said on his site this:

http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir/

2010.04.09
We are developing new titles at last!

We work a little bit to enhance the quality.
We spent more time on this work now.

To those who want more, will be pleased to enjoy this.
This is to also satisfy those who never played before.
And this time, people will see that Pokemon has evolved to a new level.

Many people wants to experience and enjoy this.
And it's produced with that thought in mind.

This is reborn as a new revolutionary Pokemon experience.

Please stay tuned.

Ciao.

Thanks my VixyNyan for the translation >/oo/<
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Harruhy on April 11, 2010, 11:53:30 PM
This is reborn as a new revolutionary Pokemon experience.

Oh god. This better be a good revolutionary Pokémon experience.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Acid on April 11, 2010, 11:54:39 PM
Some people will complain anyway. No matter how good.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Harruhy on April 11, 2010, 11:56:38 PM
Some people will complain anyway. No matter how good.

With the Pokémon fanbase, I expect nothing less.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 12, 2010, 12:04:51 AM
There are people complaining about mere frames with Sonic 4; someone's gonna complain. It's inevitable.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Solar on April 12, 2010, 12:07:53 AM
People are already complaining about stuff like "no 8-way movement."
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Harruhy on April 12, 2010, 12:08:25 AM
I hope you're joking, or they're being sarcastic.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Solar on April 12, 2010, 12:14:01 AM
Wish I was.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 12, 2010, 12:48:50 AM
"no 8-way movement."

"CAN WE WALK DIAGONALLY YET LOL"
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 12, 2010, 12:54:20 AM
I CAN!
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Harruhy on April 12, 2010, 01:00:45 AM
As can most people in real life. Now back to Pokémon.

EDIT: It's very likely that it's been pointed out earlier, but actually looking at the image of the Pokémon Center, it looks more like a Center and Mart fused.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Gaia on April 12, 2010, 04:26:16 PM
As can most people in real life. Now back to Pokémon.

EDIT: It's very likely that it's been pointed out earlier, but actually looking at the image of the Pokémon Center, it looks more like a Center and Mart fused.

If they keep this idea, it very much saves the trip. It'll be the most helpful thing they've done since Pal Park and the first and second floor merger.  :P
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Acid on April 12, 2010, 09:33:02 PM
I hope this is real. Cause she looks damn good.

(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq22/mywarehouse/1271097144428.png)
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 12, 2010, 09:35:29 PM
That she does...
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Harruhy on April 12, 2010, 09:36:58 PM
Damn, that's fantastic.

Also, dat leek.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 12, 2010, 09:37:41 PM
Does she have Farfetch'd's stick?
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 12, 2010, 09:39:00 PM
(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq22/mywarehouse/1271097144428.png)

Damn good, indeed. Hope it's real. I guess we'll find out sometime this week.

Also, dat leek.

hurf.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Harruhy on April 12, 2010, 09:39:19 PM
Does she have Farfetch'd's stick?

dat leek.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Blackhook on April 12, 2010, 10:30:29 PM
I think she has a Farfetch´d in that back :D
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Akira on April 12, 2010, 11:06:52 PM
I hope this is real. Cause she looks damn good.

(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq22/mywarehouse/1271097144428.png)

Looks like old Sugimori's art
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: borockman on April 13, 2010, 12:33:28 AM
I think that's the most adult starter pokemon trainer I've ever seen so far.

and farfetched soup sounds delicious.  8D
Title: Re: Pokémon Gen5 on the way
Post by: Mirby on April 13, 2010, 12:34:05 AM
Yeah, I know.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 13, 2010, 01:12:42 AM
THREAD NAME CHANGE IS GO :v

...

Is it the 15th yet? >>
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Acid on April 13, 2010, 01:13:22 AM
You're very smert.

I didn't thunk of that.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 13, 2010, 01:15:31 AM
You're very smert.

I didn't thunk of that.

i do wut i can, hurf durf. :v
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on April 13, 2010, 01:15:38 AM
No, I'm afraid it's only the 12th... we'll have to wait until Thursday... Also, good idea!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 13, 2010, 01:17:15 AM
Also, good idea!

I couldn't leave the thread named "lol pokeyman gen5 on da way" when we already know the official names. 8U
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on April 13, 2010, 01:18:37 AM
I know. I'm just saying, you apparently got that idea first. Also, think there will be new Eeveelutions? So far, Gen3 is the only one that didn't have new ones.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 13, 2010, 01:19:48 AM
Eeveelutions

(http://i42.tinypic.com/5nmzgh.jpg)


It's fake, but couldn't hurt to post. :v
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on April 13, 2010, 01:22:36 AM
Yeah, seen it. Notice how they stuck Zoroa and Zoroark in at the end, and didn't even bother to keep the same font?

Also, Zappy.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on April 13, 2010, 01:42:13 AM
Had to LOL at Moofy.  That's actually a pretty good idea.

Kinda glad it's fake, though.  They REALLY went overboard on the oddball type combinations.  And all the new dragons look mediocre.

Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gary Loaki on April 13, 2010, 01:51:50 AM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/5nmzgh.jpg)


It's fake, but couldn't hurt to post. :v

honestly, despite it being fake, some of the designs for evolutions/preevolutions are great. game-worthy.

i especially like viperslide. seviper was already a great poison type IMO, and it's [fake] evolution looks like it would take it to a WHOLE NUVA LEVEL.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 13, 2010, 01:57:56 AM
Had to LOL at Moofy.  That's actually a pretty good idea.

Kinda glad it's fake, though.  They REALLY went overboard on the oddball type combinations.  And all the new dragons look mediocre.

Agreed on all points, but at least they gave Dunsparce an evolution XD


...has Wily even posted here since the name reveal? You'd think he'd be the first one here.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on April 13, 2010, 02:55:52 AM
Well, he's busy RL so...

Those are some good fake pokemon though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on April 13, 2010, 03:19:56 AM
He's been posting late at night every night...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on April 13, 2010, 03:31:07 AM
While I agree that some of those fake pokemon are a bit ridiculous, I also think that a wide majority of them look pretty nice.  Colcub/Subzearo/Polapowa stood out in particular, as I'd really like to see more ice types in the next gen.  And darn it if Delibird doesn't need an evolution! (As does Farfetch'd)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on April 13, 2010, 03:36:04 AM
What about Skarmory?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on April 13, 2010, 03:36:25 AM
There are more evolutions for Tyrogue among those fakes. What the next generation really needs is a female branch for Machop's evolutionary line. Simply put, I just think that female Machoke and Machamp are rather disturbing.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on April 13, 2010, 03:43:42 AM
What about Skarmory?

I think that giving Skarmory an evolution would break him.  He's perfectly fine as he is, and a pre-evolution would make a lot more sense.  I think the more mediocre pokemon are the ones that truly need to be evolved, as there are a rather decent number of pokemon that are practically unusable (like Farfetch'd & Delibird).

I just think that female Machoke and Machamp are rather disturbing.

Well, there were always those female bodybuilders in Pokemon XD.

*shudders*
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on April 13, 2010, 03:46:43 AM
I only mentioned Skarmory because the fakemon there has one.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on April 13, 2010, 03:48:11 AM
What about Skarmory?

yeah he's just not good enough you're right
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on April 13, 2010, 09:05:36 AM
I'm proud of my female Machamp in Platinum. 8D

Well, he's busy RL so...
*shakes fist*

Ahem, so finally got a chance to read through the new stuff in this thread.
That said, I have nothing to comment at the moment. It's still rather early for me to say anything except give me more Female protagonist. XD
And it doesn't hurt to have more Eeveelutions, and Regiforms. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on April 13, 2010, 09:07:29 AM
Wait, aren't the Regi's supposed to be a trio and trio master?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on April 13, 2010, 09:09:54 AM
I HEAR THERE'S A REGI HIGHER THAN REGIGIGAS! IT'S... REGIFILSAIME!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on April 13, 2010, 10:08:43 AM
Wait, aren't the Regi's supposed to be a trio and trio master?
Supposed is so last season. 8D

Oh, and I forgot to mention.
I hate you all for leaving me out in the song-along. O^O
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on April 13, 2010, 10:13:35 AM
He was wounded in the channel about it... you really hurt his feelings! MEANIES! I blame Harruhy... >_>
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on April 13, 2010, 01:40:30 PM
I blame Harruhy... >_>

You always blame me.

Anyways, Dunsparce evolution? Aw yeah.
If only that was real so I could go evolve my shiny Dunsparce and pierce the heavens with my drill. Again.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on April 13, 2010, 08:40:35 PM
I was just kidding...

Hehehe....
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2010, 06:16:30 AM
Pokemon B&W is in Famitsu, lets hope there's something new there. Now, to go scan hunting.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 14, 2010, 07:38:33 PM
Quote
These details come from the latest Famitsu issue...

- travel on elevated paths in certain areas
- one-stop-shop section featuring PokeMart, Pokemon Center and Global Terminal in a single building
- dynamic camera angles during battle
- realistic shadows
- "As you can tell from the screenshots, Pokemon Black/White's adventure takes place in an area different in nature from before. The new story that unfolds in this place, along with the never-seen-before Pokemon you'll encounter, will allow both old fans and people who haven't played the other games to enjoy the experience without preconceptions." - Pokemon company rep

Pretty much [parasitic bomb] we already know.

Still waiting on some scans.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2010, 08:55:00 PM
Oh well, we only have to wait less than a day for the website to update anyways.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on April 14, 2010, 09:35:22 PM
Sweet! I know a certain person on OCR who'll love this info... unless he already knows...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 15, 2010, 05:08:08 AM
So the official site (http://www.pokemon.co.jp/bw/index.html) updated... with the same screens from CoroCoro. |:
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 15, 2010, 05:22:17 AM
At least now they're a direct feed?

Oh well, until Saturday/Sunday then.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on April 15, 2010, 07:59:47 PM
I've been wonder where the Pokemon BW will take place, and which region of Japan they'll base it on. We know that Kanto is based on the Tokyo area, Johto is based on the Kansai region, Hoenn is Kyushu at a 90 degree angle, and Sinnoh on Hokkaido (plus the southern half of Sahkalin island, which was Japanese territory from 1905ish to 1945, and the disputed Kurills). My money's on Shikoku, which is the only island they haven't used yet.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on April 15, 2010, 08:04:16 PM
I... did not know that.

Nah, it'll be a small region based on Iwo Jima.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on April 15, 2010, 11:39:56 PM
Mirby, read that article :

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pokémon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pokémon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on April 15, 2010, 11:49:03 PM
Very informative... thanks for that! ^_^
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on April 18, 2010, 01:49:32 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAdxDACr2fQ[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on April 18, 2010, 02:14:10 AM
*headdesk*

Still the same information? Looks like it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on April 18, 2010, 09:39:36 AM
So?

At least we get to see the 3D overworld in motion.
And I must say, it looks brilliant, so is the theme.

Also, gen5 cards...
OHBOYOHBOYOHBOY
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on April 18, 2010, 06:10:04 PM
High Quality goodness. >v<; (http://www.filb.de/1294)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on April 18, 2010, 10:36:26 PM
Also, gen5 cards...
OHBOYOHBOYOHBOY

Oh yes, but until then, they might be promo-goodness..  ~w~
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on April 18, 2010, 11:32:17 PM
The new generation Pokemon games looks gorgeous, but as long as they don´t remove that retarded Effort Value Limitation it is unlikely that I would buy them.
The Battle Screen reminds somewhat of Suikoden 1 and 2, with full displayed Pokemon and their shadows.  If these Pokemon moves like the grafics in Suikoden, it would be more awesome.

For those who don´t know Suikoden here a video.^^
[youtube]prif8Ptk6Zw[/youtube]

I couldn´t find a spoiler free video. Sorry about that.  '>.>
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on April 19, 2010, 09:28:55 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyrJvZyegM0[/youtube]

Quote
This is the music played on Pokemon Black/White whilst in the city featured on Pokemon Sunday.

Nice Remix
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on April 20, 2010, 01:10:01 AM
I like it! That's typical Pokemon music, but has a fresh feel to it! Sweet!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on April 20, 2010, 01:16:18 AM
Ku~ ku ku ku ku... I'm looking forward to seein' what else they do.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on April 20, 2010, 10:25:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyrJvZyegM0

Nice Remix
Thanks for this!
And as I've mentioned, it sounds brilliant.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Psycho Yuffie on April 20, 2010, 07:34:20 PM
Wow. Pokemon in 3D? And it isn't a spin-off? I can't wait to read the whining that will ensue.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on April 20, 2010, 09:13:06 PM
Holy [parasitic bomb]. I cannot wait for this.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on April 25, 2010, 09:44:48 PM
Pokemon Sunday 2010.04.25
Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qr4BNkjMmg)
Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MnWA1ObiyM)
Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-6huZySyzk)
Part 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3ui5N-ZoVI)
Part 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCSSu6KlcKw)

Nothing happened... >U<

Have this instead. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcgbTrlx_ss)

[youtube]GcgbTrlx_ss[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on April 26, 2010, 02:35:10 AM
Pokemon Sunday 2010.04.25
Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qr4BNkjMmg)
Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MnWA1ObiyM)
Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-6huZySyzk)
Part 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3ui5N-ZoVI)
Part 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCSSu6KlcKw)

Nothing happened... >U<
[tornado fang]ing Japan.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on April 26, 2010, 02:46:06 AM
I can see that Beyblade was right after Pokemon Sunday at the end. Someone recorded it with commercials.  8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on April 29, 2010, 06:49:01 AM
I think that might've been placed better in the Pic Thread, Flame. Considering, by your definition, the pic would've fit better in the HG/SS thread as well, since that's also a "pokeymanz" thread as you say.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Flame on April 29, 2010, 06:51:36 AM
m. I guess Ill get rid of it then.

*JEDI MIND TRICKS* NOTHING WAS EVER THERE.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on April 29, 2010, 07:03:17 AM
Yes it was. I saw *stabbed with a lightsaber*
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Flame on April 29, 2010, 07:47:36 AM
Yes it was. I saw *stabbed with a lightsaber*
*several times*
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on April 29, 2010, 08:01:00 AM
Yes it was. I saw *stabbed with a lightsaber*
*several times*

wow this sure is preferable to pokemon comics

you sure did a great job by making flame stop yes you did
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Psycho Yuffie on April 30, 2010, 07:17:30 PM
I'm not sure how I feel about the 3D environment with the 2D sprites. Sure, they did it with Diamond and Pearl, but it wasn't such a glaring contrast in those games.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on April 30, 2010, 07:53:10 PM
My thoughts exactly...they don´t seem to fit
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 03, 2010, 12:12:30 PM
Well, it's still rather early to conclude.

Just wait for it.
Speaking of which... NEW POKEMANS
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 06, 2010, 08:04:21 PM
Quote from: Serebii.net
Black & White Starters to be revealed this month

The first details of the Pokémon Sunday episode due for airing in Japan on May 16th have come and have indicated that part of the show will feature details about the three starter Pokémon of Pokémon Black & White among various other Black & White details. This episode is to be titled Latest Pokémon Games & Movies Scoop Special (ポケモン最新ゲーム&映画のスクープ連発スペシャル!). If this holds true, then it is highly likely that we will get the Starter Pokémon within CoroCoro which is due for release on May 15th, but we'll likely get it earlier at the start of next week.


Speaking of which... NEW POKEMANS

Indeed.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 06, 2010, 08:07:16 PM
Mmm... Starter Pokemon.
Wonder what Gamefreak has come up with this time.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 06, 2010, 08:10:04 PM
I really want a Dolphin water starter like that fake one from a while back.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 06, 2010, 08:12:02 PM
No more Fire/Fighting, please. I want Fire/[Grass/Water/Ice/Bug]
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 06, 2010, 08:36:58 PM
Yeah, no Fire/Fighting. Let's have Fire/Rock or Fire/Ground. Something we haven't seen before.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 06, 2010, 08:43:42 PM
Fire/Rock -> Magcargo
Fire/Ground -> Numel, Camerupt

Unless you meant as starter typings...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 06, 2010, 08:44:55 PM
I meant starter typings, but I was also hinting at examples... :P

FIRE/WATER! LIBRA SCALES FOR STARTER! -_-
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 06, 2010, 08:56:33 PM
FIRE/WATER! LIBRA SCALES FOR STARTER! -_-
That guy looked so stupid...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 06, 2010, 08:57:52 PM
Fire/Ghost.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 06, 2010, 10:04:40 PM
How about FIRE/DRAGON.  I can't recall if we've had a FIRE/DRAGON type yet, which would kinda make sense!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 06, 2010, 10:08:50 PM
It would... How about a dragon/ghost...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 06, 2010, 10:18:56 PM
Ghost/Spychic for weakness coverage?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 06, 2010, 10:22:05 PM
Spychic?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dexter Dexter on May 06, 2010, 10:25:39 PM
Grass/ground types please.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 06, 2010, 10:27:41 PM
They can have the worst type ever. I don't care. Grinding can get me through the gyms.
But if they make them look like [parasitic bomb]...

My rage will be incomparable.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on May 06, 2010, 10:44:20 PM
Kotone wants to eat new Pokeymanz!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 07, 2010, 03:24:43 AM
Grass/ground types please.
Torterra, fool.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dexter Dexter on May 07, 2010, 03:32:07 AM
FINE, then a ghost-fighting type.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 07, 2010, 03:39:35 AM
FINE, then a ghost-fighting type.
That's more like it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 07, 2010, 03:41:46 AM
How about FIRE/DRAGON.  I can't recall if we've had a FIRE/DRAGON type yet, which would kinda make sense!

I would agree with this if it weren't horribly broken for a starter. Basically, unless they introduce dragon types/moves into the game veeery early, you're looking at a Pokemon that is normal or highly resistant to everything not Dragon type. XD

And I'm with Harruhy. Seriously, I don't mind the mixtures or types, they just have to look kickass. Gen IV was surprisingly good with both though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 07, 2010, 03:43:14 AM
I would agree with this if it weren't horribly broken for a starter. Basically, unless they introduce dragon types/moves into the game veeery early, you're looking at a Pokemon that is normal or highly resistant to everything not Dragon type. XD
And ice.
But seriously, Dragon types need to stop being so freaking overpowered. This is why I like Flygon the best.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 07, 2010, 04:02:55 AM
I would agree with this if it weren't horribly broken for a starter. Basically, unless they introduce dragon types/moves into the game veeery early, you're looking at a Pokemon that is normal or highly resistant to everything not Dragon type. XD

......I fail to see a problem here!   8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 07, 2010, 04:04:56 AM
......I fail to see a problem here!   8D
...

Let's give one to each of the Elite Four, each at level 99. Now you're NEVER getting that National Dex.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 07, 2010, 05:30:36 AM
It would... How about a dragon/ghost...
Giratina

Water/Bug. It has only 3 weaknesses and 5 resistances.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 07, 2010, 05:31:28 AM
Water/Bug. It has only 3 weaknesses and 5 resistances.
Surskit, unfortunately.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 07, 2010, 08:04:36 AM
I still like a levitating Dragon/Steel... That's only weak to Fighting moves...
Dialga was SO close...

But yeah, Fire/Dragon is unseen yet.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 09, 2010, 01:42:39 AM
(http://i41.tinypic.com/nxmhow.png)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 09, 2010, 01:44:09 AM
I can't tell which one of those are Fire/Grass/Water.

Maybe they're not Fire/Grass/Water this time?  *o*
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 09, 2010, 01:49:05 AM
I'm guessing left=Fire, top=Grass, and right=Water.

The tail on the left looks like it could be representative of fanned flames or something.

Leaves on the head of the top one.

That leaves Water for the right one; looks like some sort of water creature anyways. Maybe.. a platypus?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on May 09, 2010, 01:49:49 AM
Speculation hooo!

A grass duck, a fire rabbit, and a water racoon.  8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 09, 2010, 02:01:00 AM
Water one is definitely a platypus, and if it's not then it SHOULD have been =/

Posted on: May 08, 2010, 06:58:27 PM
Oh and better image
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/c/c7/Pok%C3%A9Sun_May09_10.png/800px-Pok%C3%A9Sun_May09_10.png)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 09, 2010, 02:01:36 AM
Speculation hooo!

A grass duck, a fire rabbit, and a water racoon.  8D
I don't know the one that seems grass looks like a plant rather than a animal this time and the one that seems to be a racoon seems to look like a beaver or otter to me.  But if that's a fire rabbit that's probably the one I'll choose with no hesitation.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on May 09, 2010, 02:05:16 AM
Or it could be something like chikorita or cyndaquil, which are not really types of animal at all.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 09, 2010, 02:07:06 AM
Chikorita is (well, becomes) a dinosaur, and Cyndaquil I have no idea but he's too awesome for me to care.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 09, 2010, 02:07:41 AM
Chikorita is a plant and I thought Cyndaquil was some kind of fire rodent.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 09, 2010, 02:13:38 AM
True, now that I checked it says "fire mouse" in the dex for quil.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on May 09, 2010, 02:16:17 AM
That's one liberal use of the word "mouse".  XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on May 09, 2010, 03:08:38 AM
They looks weird... but I need wait to see those Pokemon with color.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dexter Dexter on May 09, 2010, 03:14:26 AM
Those starters look kinda... weird. If they are grass, water and fire then I'll FFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 09, 2010, 03:53:26 AM
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/128/c/5/pokemonBW_starter_trans_by_emlan.png)

Someone's ideas based on the silhouettes.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 09, 2010, 04:08:20 AM
I still like a levitating Dragon/Steel... That's only weak to Fighting moves...
Dialga was SO close...

But yeah, Fire/Dragon is unseen yet.
Well, given that Levitate would be its only edge over Dialga, we'd basically be looking at a repeat of the Flygon/Garchomp situation we have now.  I personally would rather see a levitating Fire/Dragon.

Seriously, I don't know what they were thinking with Garchomp.  I'd almost swear they were trying to troll the fan-tournament players; if there is such a thing as a borderline between OU and Uber, then Garchomp is the textbook definition of it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dexter Dexter on May 09, 2010, 04:30:28 AM
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/128/c/5/pokemonBW_starter_trans_by_emlan.png)

Someone's ideas based on the silhouettes.
One of them looks like it came out of a Dr. Seuss book.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 09, 2010, 04:52:16 AM
Well, given that Levitate would be its only edge over Dialga, we'd basically be looking at a repeat of the Flygon/Garchomp situation we have now.  I personally would rather see a levitating Fire/Dragon.

Seriously, I don't know what they were thinking with Garchomp.  I'd almost swear they were trying to troll the fan-tournament players; if there is such a thing as a borderline between OU and Uber, then Garchomp is the textbook definition of it.
Would it be bad if I said that I prefer a Salamance anyway?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 09, 2010, 05:12:48 AM
Not unless you mind my Dragonite kicking your Salamence's tail. >U<
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 09, 2010, 05:16:28 AM
We'll see once I finish preparing my team.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 09, 2010, 06:04:11 AM
Well, given that Levitate would be its only edge over Dialga, we'd basically be looking at a repeat of the Flygon/Garchomp situation we have now.
It's Pokemon. It's bound to happen sooner or later. XD

As for the reveal...
I'm waiting for CoroCoro before giving my verdict. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 09, 2010, 06:32:44 AM
Dragonite has and always will be great. I can't have a finished team without one. <3

On a side note (and more related to the current topic) what's wrong with Fire/Water/Grass starters?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 09, 2010, 06:42:46 AM
*shrug*

Also, GameSaver found this:
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8994/starterpokemontogethers.jpg)
Most convincing to me.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 09, 2010, 06:44:43 AM
LoL, AWESOME!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 09, 2010, 06:51:31 AM
Yeah, I saw that one on the OCR channel. Yeah, could be.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 09, 2010, 06:57:47 AM
Dragonite has and always will be great. I can't have a finished team without one. <3

On a side note (and more related to the current topic) what's wrong with Fire/Water/Grass starters?
I don't get the problem either.  Honestly it's a great balance of types that is in an elemental triangle that diffuses each other out so that no pokemon is overly powerful.  The key is to raise said pokemon right to be your ace of spades so to speak like with me and Torchic and Totodile.  If you're pokemon is over powered from the get go then there's really no point of raising them quikely since you don't have to worry until a higher leveled pokemon shows up.  

Though the only problem I see with this is with every single generation of starters there is always one or 2 pokemon that is initialy when it comes to base stats in their final evolution compared to the others it seems.  Then there are others who don't have enough attack variety to match their main stat, I'm looking at you Typhlosion.  Even though he can be deadly with a Sunny Day and Flamethrower/Solarbeam combo can be absolutly deadly the only other type of special attack move it can learn would be another fire type or Focus Blast which would lower it's Special Defense and make him even more vunerable to water type attacks than he already is.  Lucklily the new egg move for him is Extrasenory but how often are you going to have a Female Typhlosion any way?  That means you're stuck with a pokemon with pretty low type variety or one with 2 support moves.

The point is I like the basics that have been laid out since the beginning but I wish the game developers would be smarter when considering stats and move sets.

*shrug*

Also, GameSaver found this:
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8994/starterpokemontogethers.jpg)
Most convincing to me.
Ooh a fire beaver, racoon or teddy bear I like that.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 09, 2010, 06:59:58 AM
I believe that's a Red Panda. >w<
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 09, 2010, 07:01:45 AM
Panda tails aren't that long and besides in a way Spinda is already a Panda.  Now that I look at it again it looks like an otter too.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 09, 2010, 07:05:32 AM
Not just a panda, but a Red Panda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_panda#Biology_and_behavior). >w<
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 09, 2010, 07:07:29 AM
Red panda as a fire starter makes sense I guess...I STILL WANT MY PLATYPUS >=(

Where did he find them btw?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 09, 2010, 07:08:41 AM
Oh so that's what a red panda looks like.  It almost looks like a fox and a racoon went crazy one day...God that Zoology class I'm taking is sure taking a toll on me. -u-'
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Mage J on May 09, 2010, 07:09:22 AM
Fantastic....
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 09, 2010, 07:11:11 AM
Tangent:

Now you see, I've never been particularly competitive with Pokemon and as a result, this might be a horribly out of date concept I have in my head, but I didn't think Typhlosion was bad with its potential movepool.

I remember cleaning house with a Ty that rocked Rollout, Flamethrower, Earthquake, and Dynamicpunch (easily the weakest link, only for its God awful accuracy). I always wanted to try and be more creative with my 'mons movesets, but I didn't really have the avenue to until this gen.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 09, 2010, 07:13:19 AM
Yeah I kinda missed how simple pokemon used to be but atleast this gives you more to do other than just going throught the game.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 09, 2010, 07:15:37 AM
Where did he find them btw?
The picture link, is the same link he showed me on IRC.
In other words, no idea. >w<

It almost looks like a fox and a racoon went crazy one day...God that Zoology class I'm taking is sure taking a toll on me. -u-'
Sorry, but that cracked me up. >0<
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 09, 2010, 07:17:13 AM
I knew it would and I'm suprised PB didn't say anything yet. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 09, 2010, 07:49:20 AM
LoL, why me?  XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 09, 2010, 07:50:46 AM
Because you're my boss?...yeah I don't know, must be hormones or something. :\
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 09, 2010, 07:53:56 AM
I remember cleaning house with a Ty that rocked Rollout, Flamethrower, Earthquake, and Dynamicpunch (easily the weakest link, only for its God awful accuracy). I always wanted to try and be more creative with my 'mons movesets, but I didn't really have the avenue to until this gen.

If you're having to use Rollout, you know something's wrong.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 09, 2010, 07:55:26 AM
I don't know, I always loved using Ice Ball with Walrain.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 09, 2010, 08:01:31 AM
I'm really not seeing the appeal of a 30 power attack which gives the other guy the most obvious switch in chance ever.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 09, 2010, 08:04:03 AM
Yeah that's true but when AI don't ever switch it's pretty helpful especially when you use defense curl first.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on May 09, 2010, 10:47:46 AM
*shrug*

Also, GameSaver found this:
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8994/starterpokemontogethers.jpg)
Most convincing to me.

Interesting, you have to wonder about the evolution for the red panda of fire though, what will he become? Giant fire panda of doom?

and Water pig eh, should have noticed the tail.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 09, 2010, 10:53:37 AM
HE WILL BECOME JACK BLACK! rofl

Posted on: May 09, 2010, 16:52:26
You do realize that the pic is also speculation, right?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 09, 2010, 10:54:23 AM
Interesting, you have to wonder about the evolution for the red panda of fire though, what will he become? Giant fire panda of doom?

and Water pig eh, should have noticed the tail.
Even so, it is still too early to confirm this.
It might look official, but it might still turn out fake in the end.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 09, 2010, 10:56:23 AM
Oh crap, did I accidentally double post.. oops. My bad. :P

I still want a friggin' wombat Pokémon! A platypus would be cool too.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on May 09, 2010, 11:16:59 AM
Oh I do realize, still can't stop me for speculating the fakes evolution though.

If that pokemon with the curly tail is not a pig or boar, I'll disappoint.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 09, 2010, 11:39:58 AM
You don't want a platypus anymore? D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 09, 2010, 04:50:36 PM
Typhosion
Typhlosion is the single Pokemon who most makes me miss the old "stat experience" system.  It made mixed attackers a lot more viable, and a Fire-type with both Thunderpunch and Earthquake could bust a lot of heads.  These days that's not practical anymore unless you use Flare Blitz as your STAB move, which means lots of recoil and, in Typhlosion's case, ignoring his stronger attack stat.

Yeah that's true but when AI don't ever switch it's pretty helpful especially when you use defense curl first.
You want to talk AI abuse?  Fighting against Blue, I had Jirachi wall his Exeggutor, soaking up enough Leaf Storms to send his Special Attack through the floor, then Flash his accuracy into nothing.  Switch in Dragonite, build up SIX Dragon Dances, and enjoy the destruction.

The *ONLY* reason that was not a clean sweep was two Intimidates and a Roar later (I was using Extremespeed for accuracy; didn't have Dragon Claw or Outrage).  Nevertheless, wiping up the broken pieces of his team after that was easy pickings.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 09, 2010, 05:58:37 PM
*shrug*

Also, GameSaver found this:
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8994/starterpokemontogethers.jpg)
Most convincing to me.
Something about that middle one scares me to no end.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on May 09, 2010, 06:00:40 PM
Pedobear?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 09, 2010, 06:05:24 PM
No, not that scary. It's as if it's pushing the borders of photorealism or something or other and forget whatever it is I just said.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 09, 2010, 09:29:17 PM
Typhlosion is the single Pokemon who most makes me miss the old "stat experience" system.  It made mixed attackers a lot more viable, and a Fire-type with both Thunderpunch and Earthquake could bust a lot of heads.  These days that's not practical anymore unless you use Flare Blitz as your STAB move, which means lots of recoil and, in Typhlosion's case, ignoring his stronger attack stat.


Yeah I kinda miss how EVs and stats didn't matter as much as it does now.  I mean this is the very reason I'm training 10 pokemon, and possibly more when White comes out, so I can cover my weaknesses and such.  The only problem I'm having is that I don't have enough Special Sweepers I mean the only ones I have that emphasizes a high Special Attack stat are Lucario, Roserade and Gardevoir.  I mean that might be my only true weakness since the rest are mostly geared for Physical Attacks: Feraligater, Mammoswine, Absol, Salamance, Metagross and Salamance.  Blaziken and Lucario can go either way but I think it'd be better for them to work with the strengh they work best with. 

Another problem I'm having is that 3 of my pokemon are part fighting so, except for my Lucario and Gallade when it comes to Psychic attacks, they mostly have the same weaknesses.  And then there's Absol and Lucario together even though it was only for the GoRPM pokemon arc I'm never going to make that mistake again.

Plus I'm so insane that I'm going to train some of the same pokemon with a few alterations once I get enough dittos with certain stat and I think I'll mate 2 of them together soon.

Although I'm thinking that these pokemon can possibly beat Will Gallent's pokemon when I'm finished with them since I have 3 tanks and he only has a partial one which is his Metagross and I'll probably have to match mine against his since it'll probably be the only pokemon that can witstand his Explosion.  I hope I can beat him, his new team, and his rabid Eevees on EV steroids!

You want to talk AI abuse?  Fighting against Blue, I had Jirachi wall his Exeggutor, soaking up enough Leaf Storms to send his Special Attack through the floor, then Flash his accuracy into nothing.  Switch in Dragonite, build up SIX Dragon Dances, and enjoy the destruction.

The *ONLY* reason that was not a clean sweep was two Intimidates and a Roar later (I was using Extremespeed for accuracy; didn't have Dragon Claw or Outrage).  Nevertheless, wiping up the broken pieces of his team after that was easy pickings.
Huh it kinda reminds me of that one pokemon battle with Will and another one of my friends against 2 more of my friends.  Will and the other guy won with both of their Dragon pokemon using Outrage and Will's Metagross using Explosion.  All of them were out of pokemon except for Will who still had 2 pokemon in wait.  Oh and it might [acid burst] you off that Will's dragon type is a Garchomp.

Plus my gym battles latly seemed to be me fighting againsted them with unEv trained pokemon, under leveled, and making their strongest pokemon run out of PP for their strongest moves and healing them with a vast supply of potions.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 09, 2010, 09:39:42 PM
I mean this is the very reason I'm training 10 pokemon, and possibly more when White comes out, so I can cover my weaknesses and such.

Shouldn't you focus on making an actual team of 6 first? It'll be a lot easier to see what you need to replace when you've actually had some experience with how your current guys work.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 09, 2010, 09:45:56 PM
I know that I mean I already have the bare basics for my normal teams with one slight diference: Fire, Water, Ice, Flying, Dark, and Grass instead of Electric.  That means that my main team would proabably be Blaziken, Feraligater, Mammoswine, Salamance, Absol, and Roserade.  Then if the situation calls for it I'll switch if I know the team ahead of time or just switch one of them out with Metagross to cover all angles.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 10, 2010, 05:02:37 AM
(http://i43.tinypic.com/ru9sur.jpg)

lol fake [parasitic bomb]
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 10, 2010, 05:22:44 AM
Now I'm annoyed by the small font... I'm not sure what to make of this...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 10, 2010, 05:26:59 AM
(http://i43.tinypic.com/ru9sur.jpg)

lol fake [parasitic bomb]
Oh, but I like this one. :(
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Mage J on May 11, 2010, 12:07:35 AM
(http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Daily/2010/05-May/10/New%20Pokemon%20Starters/bidoof--article_image.jpg)
......
(http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Daily/2010/05-May/10/New%20Pokemon%20Starters/image%203--article_image.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 11, 2010, 02:57:14 AM
You gotta love speculation. It just goes to show which of us are slowly breaking apart trying to figure out the starters.

I know I am...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on May 11, 2010, 03:01:55 AM
i haven't really even thought about it

i'm content to wait
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on May 11, 2010, 04:01:29 AM
Lol at those mutant Bidoof. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Mage J on May 11, 2010, 04:40:05 AM
it wouldn't be a pokemon thread without Bidoof, apparently..
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dexter Dexter on May 11, 2010, 04:43:30 AM
(http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Daily/2010/05-May/10/New%20Pokemon%20Starters/bidoof--article_image.jpg)
Heheheheheheheheheh, gene-spliced Bidoof. [/Peter Griffin]
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 11, 2010, 04:49:23 AM
(http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Daily/2010/05-May/10/New%20Pokemon%20Starters/bidoof--article_image.jpg)
YOU... YOU TRIPLE DERP.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on May 12, 2010, 01:14:32 PM
New region is called Isshu. イッシュ

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/1273659884018.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/1273659884018.jpg)

:3c
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on May 12, 2010, 01:40:33 PM
So it's a lizard, pig bunny and otter eh? the cutest one is the lizard oddly enough. That otter is just ugly imo.

I love the heroes though, the hero looks like Judai and the heroine looks like Poplar from "Working!".  8D

You gotta wonder how the evolution will be though.

Lizard -> frilled lizard with leaves as frills?
Pig -> boar?
Otter -> Giant badass otter?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 12, 2010, 06:34:15 PM
DA HAIR ON DAT FEMALE TRAINER

I think I'm gonna pick the lizard looking one as my starter. TREEKO MK II

Also, the main characters are not children... According to PokéBeach anyway.

Posted on: May 12, 2010, 07:02:14 AM
Quote
Before the scans came out, some new information was posted on 2ch including the region name which turned out true, classifications matching the Pokémon's appearance and the aforementioned possible Pokémon names. This information detailled some attacks, classifications, Zoroark's ability and the special event from the beasts. I have decided to post it with thanks to yaminokame for translation. Remember though that the following information is NOT confirmed yet.

    * The Grass Starter, Tsutaja (ツタージャ) is the Grass Snake Pokémon
    * The Fire Starter, Pokabu (ポカブ)is the Fire Pig Pokémon
    * The Water Starter, Mijumaru (ミジュマル) is the Sea Otter Pokémon
    * Zoroark has an ability called Illusion (イリュージョン) which will allow it to transform into various Pokémon. How it differs from the move Transform remains to be seen.
    * Two new attacks have been announced;
          o A move called Trickery (イカサマ) seems to allow the attack to be calculated using the opponent's stats
          o Another move called Claw Sharpen (つめとぎ) raises the user's Attack and Accuracy stats
    * The special event activated by the special Raikou, Entei & Suicune given with the upcoming movie; Phantom Champion Zoroark has been detailled. In this event, when you bring the beasts (it is unclear if it's all three or just one)to the game, a special battle will occur. This battle is against a Level 25 Zoroark which will transform into the various Pokémon. At many points, it will break its transformation to allow you to capture it.

Remember, this information is NOT Confirmed as of yet and so it's quite possible that this information is indeed inaccurate.

From Serebii.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 12, 2010, 06:39:26 PM
Looks like we have three mutant pokemon. I'm starting with the Excalibur-looking one then.  XD

(Water - Grass - Grass - Grass for three generations for teh win)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 12, 2010, 07:07:22 PM
POKABU?  I LOVE THAT NAME!   8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dexter Dexter on May 12, 2010, 07:08:34 PM
STARTERS! (http://ds.nintendolife.com/news/2010/05/pokemon_black_and_white_starters_are_disappointingly_ugly) But seriously, they are fugly. Don't believe me? Click the link if you dare.

Also: The trainers' hairstyles look very 1980s.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Acid on May 12, 2010, 07:11:51 PM
I don't think they're that bad. Not the best ever, but also not the worst.

Oh, I REALLY like the new trainers though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 12, 2010, 07:16:06 PM
[tornado fang] the haters, I love the new starters (although I still really want a platypus).
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: CephiYumi on May 12, 2010, 07:17:42 PM
Maybe they'll look cuter when they evolve, kinda the reverse of how the starters usually are x3
and that is one very fluffy ?ponytail?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Acid on May 12, 2010, 07:17:44 PM
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/644/1273684366585.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dexter Dexter on May 12, 2010, 07:18:17 PM
OK, they're not THAT ugly. But still, the water starter...

EDIT: Okay, it seems someone beat me to the starter Pokemon pic... No one saw that.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Acid on May 12, 2010, 07:33:26 PM
Has this been posted yet?

I like the girl. Really.

(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6695/1273683704828.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 12, 2010, 07:38:24 PM
Has this been posted yet?

I like the girl. Really.

(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6695/1273683704828.jpg)

Not this one. No.

I like the designs for both trainers.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 12, 2010, 07:40:11 PM
That grass starter is one smug [chameleon sting]. The fire starter isn't bad, either. The water starter, however... Let's just say I hope its evolutions are better.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Acid on May 12, 2010, 07:41:24 PM
I can already see it:

Water starte's evolutions will be so kickass that the others look crappy.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 12, 2010, 08:47:29 PM
Hipster grass mon is God Tier. Also, those trainers are absolutely awesome looking. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: The Blind Archer on May 12, 2010, 10:20:11 PM
... BOTH trainers wearing a normal hat in the same game?  What the hell?

Anyway, totally using the otter.  Otters are freakin' badass.  Also,
Quote
The Grass Starter, Tsutaja (ツタージャ) is the Grass Snake Pokémon
Quote
Grass Snake Pokemon
Quote
Clearly a lizard
Excuse me Nintendo, wtf are you doing?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 12, 2010, 10:33:58 PM
I like them all...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 12, 2010, 10:43:34 PM
Ugly?  Pokenonsense!  LOOK HOW CUTE MY POKABU IS!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 12, 2010, 10:47:48 PM
I still think the female trainer looks a bit CephiYumi-like. I forgot the term we used earlier and I'm too lazy to look back for it. And the male trainer doesn't look butt-ass ugly there.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: The Blind Archer on May 12, 2010, 10:54:11 PM
The male trainer's hairstyle looks very... Jaden.  I don't know how else to put it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on May 12, 2010, 10:55:14 PM
The male trainer's hairstyle looks very... Jaden.  I don't know how else to put it.
"very Judai."
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 12, 2010, 10:57:33 PM
I want mah Mijumaru! >:[ ]

And let's quest in Isshu!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 12, 2010, 11:07:08 PM
So the new trainers look good...
[spoiler]Female trainer, fap fap fap.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 12, 2010, 11:13:08 PM
Aw the starters look cute.  And even though it's not a fire rabbit I'll take the pig as long as it doesn't evolve into a pokemon that is part fighting because Blaziken is the only one that can pull it off in my eyes.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on May 12, 2010, 11:15:17 PM
the starters don't look that bad, but i can't say that particularly stand out either

the only one i actually like out of the three is the treecko looking one
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 12, 2010, 11:28:43 PM
the only one i actually like out of the three is the treecko looking one
Why do I get the feeling that that one is going to evolve into some kind of sumg crocodile/aligator?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on May 12, 2010, 11:30:49 PM
[tornado fang] that Fire Starter, it's a god damn pig.






I'll name mine P-chan.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Mage J on May 12, 2010, 11:32:09 PM
Female trainer reminds me of Miley Cirus. And at least the starters and that fugly, as I expected from the first speculation art posted on here.
But a flaming pig is a brilliant idea.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 12, 2010, 11:36:03 PM
Female trainer reminds me of Miley Cirus.

And what of the Rebellion? Coincidence, or running out of ideas? But yeah, same thing every other pokemon game. I'll start with the Grass type. :/
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on May 12, 2010, 11:45:14 PM
Female trainer reminds me of Miley Cirus.
can't unsee
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 12, 2010, 11:46:52 PM
I thought you couldn't see [parasitic bomb] already? :D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 13, 2010, 04:48:06 AM
[tornado fang] that Fire Starter, it's a god damn pig.






I'll name mine P-chan.

I'll name mine Pumbaa depending on how his final evolutionary stage comes out. XD

can't unsee

I thought you couldn't see [parasitic bomb] already? :D

Well played. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 13, 2010, 05:09:53 AM
I'll name mine Pumbaa depending on how his final evolutionary stage comes out. XD
Where's the meerkat to name Timon?

Well played. XD
Thanks!


(http://th04.deviantart.net/fs71/300W/f/2010/132/a/0/The_fucking_true_by_suikuro.jpg)
Posted on OCR
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 13, 2010, 08:50:46 AM
Well, well, finally some news.

Starters look just fine to me, and the fake I posted (Thanks again GameSaver) was rather close. XD
Trainers look cool, HOTPANTS
Also, the Illusion ability sounds pretty Transform-ish now... Hopefully, it's not just that.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: The Blind Archer on May 13, 2010, 08:52:51 AM
When you see it...
[spoiler](http://img683.yfrog.com/img683/2690/12737315914471655955.jpg)
... you will rethink the saying "an apple a day".[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 13, 2010, 08:57:32 AM
OHMYGAWDFANART

Also, lol, totally can see why. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 13, 2010, 09:15:13 AM
Saw this over at OCR. Here's the entire post.
Quote from: Overflow
New pictures!
http://pokebeach.com/

Nintendo is trying VERY hard to hide the fact that B&W will have a dynamic camera: They make sure every battle pic is from the traditional angle. However! Notice that the "disks" are jagged edged: They are clearly polygons, moving in a 3d environment! Also, you can notice that the disks are in SLIGHTLY different positions in each picture. The pokemon are definitely battling in 3D.

GOLDEN SUN BATTLE STYLE CONFIRMED

I couldn't have said it better than that post.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on May 13, 2010, 09:51:32 AM
Fanart people move/draw fast. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: CephiYumi on May 13, 2010, 01:51:58 PM
I still think the female trainer looks a bit CephiYumi-like

Female trainer reminds me of Miley Cirus

u-ummmmmmm o.o;
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on May 13, 2010, 01:59:12 PM
The chick actually looks cool.

The guy's jacket just puts me off though. That's the only thing I don't like about his design.

Fire pig looks awesome, but it's probably gonna be the worst one. I'm seeing a Fire/Ground hybrid for that final evolution (Pigs? Mud? It makes perfect sense).

Or it could be Fire/Flying, that'd just be hilarious.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 13, 2010, 02:06:04 PM
Or it could be Fire/Flying, that'd just be hilarious.
Bah! Only when pigs can fly!
... Oh wait. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 13, 2010, 03:06:54 PM
http://pldh.net/home/archive/120510

More scans and [parasitic bomb].
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 13, 2010, 08:37:34 PM
This game is gong to be very sicky!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 13, 2010, 08:51:31 PM
Cephi, don't listen to Nova. He can be a bit of an idiot at times.

Also, sweet link! ^_^
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on May 13, 2010, 08:54:19 PM
Cephi, don't listen to Nova. He can be a bit of an idiot at times.

Also, sweet link! ^_^
"at times"? more like always
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 13, 2010, 09:19:25 PM
"at times"? more like always

Well I was trying to be nice! meaning I do agree with you there
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Mage J on May 13, 2010, 11:48:09 PM
Thank you both.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on May 14, 2010, 07:04:18 AM
Holy [tornado fang] those god damn shorts
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 14, 2010, 07:48:13 AM
It just goes to show that the protagonists are indeed older, and thus, more rebellious than the ones before. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on May 14, 2010, 08:21:13 AM
I have to say she's my most favorite new female hero currently, defeating Dawn, May and Green.

Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 14, 2010, 04:36:28 PM
Man, it's been months. You aren't allowed to argue about that [parasitic bomb] anymore, unless you've got a time machine.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 14, 2010, 04:55:17 PM
Man, it's been months. You aren't allowed to argue about that [parasitic bomb] anymore, unless you've got a time machine.
Yarg. I went to the first unread post and it took me to that page.
remember kids: look at the goddamn timestamps
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 14, 2010, 06:43:57 PM
Random question, is anyone NOT planning on giving a bacon related nickname to their fire starter? I find the temptation hard to resist XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 14, 2010, 07:27:22 PM
http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/

Site updated.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 14, 2010, 07:33:14 PM
Bigger pictures. (http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20100515_367138.html)

Also, pokemon have actual animation while idle now.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/10h50uw.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on May 14, 2010, 09:41:58 PM
Idle animations? Now that's top quality.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 14, 2010, 09:57:56 PM
Quote from: PokéBeach
The preview section in this month's CoroCoro magazine states that June 15th's issue will feature a new Pokemon as well as information on how to evolve Zorua into Zoroark (and of course new screenshots, info, etc.). Scans of the issue will likely leak on to the Internet between June 10th and 12th, and it is possible an upcoming Pokemon Sunday episode could feature the Pokemon's silhouette (probably the June 6th episode, if any).

And now we speculate some more. :v
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Mage J on May 15, 2010, 12:01:40 AM
Random question, is anyone NOT planning on giving a bacon related nickname to their fire starter? I find the temptation hard to resist XD
I shall dub mine, Baconator! 
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dexter Dexter on May 15, 2010, 12:15:25 AM
I shall dub mine, Baconator! 

in b4 Wendy's
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 15, 2010, 01:39:20 AM
So, Zoark has his own beast trio that has a rivalry with shiny beasts, or something?

Looks interesting, I guess.

Trainers look surprisingly good.  Nice to have a male that looks normal again, but I dunno that I can say no to those shorts.  >.>

Random question, is anyone NOT planning on giving a bacon related nickname to their fire starter? I find the temptation hard to resist XD
Having just seen The Simpsons Movie, I was thinking more along the lines of SwineTorch.
Seriously, though, why are all the weird animals used as fire starters?  Chicken, monkey, pig?  Every new one makes me miss Charizard and Typhlosion that much more.

Looks like I'll be taking the Grass starter this time.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 15, 2010, 01:44:26 AM
So, Zoark has his own beast trio that has a rivalry with shiny beasts, or something?
Looks more like he can transform into them to me.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 15, 2010, 01:48:12 AM
So, Zoark has his own beast trio that has a rivalry with shiny beasts, or something?

The special event activated by the special Raikou, Entei & Suicune given with the upcoming movie; Phantom Champion Zoroark has been detailled. In this event, when you bring the beasts (it is unclear if it's all three or just one)to the game, a special battle will occur. This battle is against a Level 25 Zoroark which will transform into the various Pokémon. At many points, it will break its transformation to allow you to capture it.

The move is called Illusion.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 15, 2010, 01:49:33 AM
Ah so it's a different transforming move like in the movie.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 15, 2010, 02:11:30 AM
So, Zoark has his own beast trio that has a rivalry with shiny beasts, or something?

He IS his own beast trio.

Seriously, though, why are all the weird animals used as fire starters?  Chicken, monkey, pig?  Every new one makes me miss Charizard and Typhlosion that much more.

The Typhlosion family are supposed to be mice, if that's not as weird of a decision as the rest then I don't know what it is. Also, at least Blaziken's family makes sense (fried chicken XD)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on May 15, 2010, 02:26:05 AM
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonblackandwhite/poke03.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonblackandwhite/poke04.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonblackandwhite/poke05.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonblackandwhite/poke08.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonblackandwhite/poke09.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonblackandwhite/poke13.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonblackandwhite/poke14.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonblackandwhite/poke15.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonblackandwhite/poke18.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonblackandwhite/poke19.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonblackandwhite/poke21.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonblackandwhite/poke22.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonblackandwhite/poke23.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonblackandwhite/poke24.jpg)

Now you can make a better GIF with these screens. ^^b

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/10h50uw.gif)

One screen is missing. o.o
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 15, 2010, 04:23:41 PM
The move is called Illusion.
It's not a move, it's Zoroark's ability. ._.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 15, 2010, 05:02:47 PM
In response to the fire starter names, I heard a few already that I absolutely loved, namely Pignition & Piglit. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on May 15, 2010, 05:12:12 PM
I also heard Emboar.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 15, 2010, 05:41:15 PM
ability

Yeah, that [parasitic bomb].
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 15, 2010, 05:43:47 PM
So if that's his ability, does that make Zoroark the equivalent of random select in fighting games?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 15, 2010, 05:49:29 PM
We won't know for sure till new info comes in.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 15, 2010, 08:22:41 PM
You know, what until I know what his final form looks like, I'll call him Porkchop.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on May 15, 2010, 09:43:37 PM
Say, is there any kind of information of the Effort Value System out here yet? I want to know, if Nintendo has finally decided to remove that stupid 510 EV limitation.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 15, 2010, 09:45:47 PM
Say, is there any kind of information of the Effort Value System out here yet? I want to know, if Nintendo has finally decided to remove that stupid 510 EV limitation.
As in, one would be able to invest all EVs in one stat? That would be nice.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 15, 2010, 09:54:12 PM
Say, is there any kind of information of the Effort Value System out here yet? I want to know, if Nintendo has finally decided to remove that stupid 510 EV limitation.

yeah man and i hope they raise the level cap to 200 and remove autolevelling when you battle people 'cause grinding is just SO MUCH FUN

POINTLESS GRIND WOO WOO I LOVE IT
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 15, 2010, 09:58:49 PM
yeah man and i hope they raise the level cap to 200 and remove autolevelling when you battle people 'cause grinding is just SO MUCH FUN

POINTLESS GRIND WOO WOO I LOVE IT
I don't think that was insinuated anywhere.
Also, if the vitamin limit could be eliminated as well, that would be supreme.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 15, 2010, 10:03:26 PM
We've had this conversation before. He wants the EV cap raised to 1512, so he'll be able to max out every stat. This, y'know, makes EVs completely pointless, 'cause with no choice in their placement, they add nothing but something else to grind before your pokemon are battle worthy, but hey, it's a good idea anyway, right? Because only being able to max out two stats so you have to actually think about what you want your pokemon to do is just so restrictive.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on May 15, 2010, 10:22:38 PM
You know in generation 1 and 2 it was possible to maximise all stats, but from generation 3 and above there was no longer the status expierence system, but the Effort Value System with that retarded limitation off 510 EV. One stat could be maximised with 255 EV which gives your pokemon in the chosen stat 63 points (4 EVs makes 1 Point). The only thing what could be done with the limitation was to place the EVs to different stats, in order that the pokemon were atleast balanced. Wouldn´t be there such a limit, we could give our pokemon a total of 1530 EVs.

The natures and the abilities were good additions to the new Pokemon games, but it was unforgiveable to cripple our pokemon by such a limit. It worked in generation 1 and 2, so why was it changed in the first place?

We've had this conversation before. He wants the EV cap raised to 1512, so he'll be able to max out every stat. This, y'know, makes EVs completely pointless, 'cause with no choice in their placement, they add nothing but something else to grind before your pokemon are battle worthy, but hey, it's a good idea anyway, right? Because only being able to max out two stats so you have to actually think about what you want your pokemon to do is just so restrictive.

Two stats are boring, they make your pokemon in the worst case to walking class tanks, which breaks in the second round into uncountable smithereens. 
Max out Alakazam´s SPEZ ATK and Speed with the right nature. They go down directly with a supereffective hit.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on May 15, 2010, 10:28:01 PM
Or they could just remove EVs altogether to produce the same result!

because there's no way I would grind for 1500+ EVs per Pokemon...I'm too lazy to do it as it is now.

Besides I doubt they'll really make a major change to the IVs and EVs since there will probably be the ability to get Pokemon from older games somehow, so if they changed anything it would screw them up..
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 16, 2010, 01:28:42 AM
You know what until I know what his final form looks like I'll call him Porkchop.

Speaking of his final form, I'd love it if it was something like this.
(http://i44.tinypic.com/16c2yw5.jpg)

Posted on: May 15, 2010, 04:12:17 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2QG0Ibob44[/youtube]

About time Pokemon Sunday actually showed something new XD

The battle animation looks quite smooth.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 16, 2010, 02:24:51 AM
Nice.

Also;

Quote from: PokéBeach
* Pokemon battles are much more dynamic - the camera moves around and zooms in and out and the Pokemon are not just standing there with one picture hopping up and down. Rather, the sprites are constantly animated.
    * Zorua and Zoroark's Illusion ability does not change their Darkness type. When encountering them, they use the sprite of the Pokemon they are imitating and their name as well, though we still do not know how it is determined what Pokemon they imitate. We also don't know yet how to figure out you are battling a disguised Zorua or Zoroark. Perhaps they can only use their own moves, and once you see a Claw Sharpen coming out of an Oddish, you'll think it's a Zorua or Zoroark. And of course they transform back into themselves during the battle, though we don't know what the requirements are for this yet (Hit them with an attack? Weaken them?). In one of the previous screenshots, Raikou used Aura Sphere against Zoroark and it changed back to its real form, so maybe only super effective attacks will cause them to reveal themselves?
    * When you run by people, they can talk to you without you hitting A on them.

People talking to you when not hitting A? FFFFFFF?

Posted on: May 15, 2010, 07:07:24 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ailMef5RiM4[/youtube]

Footage of the starters in battle.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 16, 2010, 02:27:59 AM
Damn, I was gonna post that!

I like the whole them talking without you pressing A. Gives it a more lively feeling. Because, you know, random people don't only speak when you walk up to them and initiate conversation. They could be saying something.

And there's no GS-style rotating battle system, apparently. But the camera does change slightly, as shown when Pokabu attacks... umm.. Grass-starter. I forget his name. :P
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on May 16, 2010, 02:30:00 AM
Lol I see them angry at you like,

"what the hell man!"
"Don't stand in the middle of the road!"
"Are you ok?"
"Hey that hurts!"
etc etc
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 16, 2010, 03:41:25 AM
Thier idles animate beautifully, they just need to complete the fainting and hurt poses and then it'll be a truly unique experience.  :D

And Black and White has Natl. Pokedex from the start?

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-?

With dat Dog Trio event going on, it's possible.  :)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 16, 2010, 04:16:22 AM
o mah gawd o mah gawd O MAH GAWD

This game will not disappoint.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 16, 2010, 05:55:03 AM
Well, seeing people avoiding you was brilliant, and the battle animations are very nicely done.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on May 16, 2010, 06:32:38 AM
This looks fun
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 16, 2010, 06:46:59 AM
It does look quite awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on May 16, 2010, 07:00:39 AM
Now

Can they make it rain/snow during a battle without having to tell us after every attack that it's raining?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 16, 2010, 07:01:11 AM
Or have it be sunny? Any weather condition? Really? Without telling us every single turn?

Really, can't be too hard!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 16, 2010, 07:48:40 AM
There are people that do not know the difference in weather, and it's good to inform them!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on May 16, 2010, 09:33:12 AM
...I don't get it.

They're just doing the default idle animation while the attack comes out. I mean, sure, the animations look nice, but it just seems like the same old thing except they're dancing while Flamethrower-ing and LeafStorming...

Tis nice to finally see some NPCs that aren't on eternal house arrest though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 16, 2010, 09:37:33 AM
We are talking about the idle animations before any attack comes out.
In the past games, the sprites just "hop" up and down.
Now, your can see Raikow moving it's tail, prepping itself to attack, animation like that.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 16, 2010, 09:41:35 AM
You know, instead of standing unnaturally still.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on May 16, 2010, 09:43:26 AM
Well, for Psychic and Ghost types it looks natural to not have an idlle animation :P
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 16, 2010, 09:45:56 AM
True. Maybe some fighting as well (I'm not being unnaturally still, I'm focusing!)

Then again, maybe some moves could turn the anim off, like Focus Energy. To demonstrate that they are focusing.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on May 16, 2010, 05:49:10 PM
Graduation from unnatural stiffness to unnatural swaying. Awesome.

It would work with certain PokeMon though (Hitmonchan and Jumpluff come to mind. Or Magikarp 8))
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gary Loaki on May 16, 2010, 06:24:29 PM
Well, for Psychic and Ghost types it looks natural to not have an idlle animation :P

I CONCUR!

Ghost types can have special idle animations that don't require movement of the actual Pokemon. For example, for Gastly, some smoke could evaporate off into the air or something.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 17, 2010, 12:09:29 AM
Magikarp should headbang.

Obviously I'm kidding.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on May 17, 2010, 02:57:04 AM
Wow! I like those animations very good!

Gift!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRj2zuSbQBA[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 17, 2010, 03:17:11 AM
Judging by that pic there, and claims that the new land is somewhere far away, I have a theory. Whereas I've heard claims that it's NEW YORK and stuff... judging by that bridge, I feel it might be more likely to be San Francisco.

Or maybe the speculation is just dumb.

Nice find, Akira! Like the music!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 17, 2010, 09:13:53 AM
Hiun City... Wonder what the localised name will be...
What does "Hiun" mean?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on May 17, 2010, 11:30:26 AM
Judging by that pic there, and claims that the new land is somewhere far away, I have a theory. Whereas I've heard claims that it's NEW YORK and stuff... judging by that bridge, I feel it might be more likely to be San Francisco.

Or maybe the speculation is just dumb.
Actually, I think that makes sense if only because it's a shorter distance from Japan to California than Japan to New York :P
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 17, 2010, 11:34:26 AM
Yeah, and the SF Bay Area is more of an immigration site for the Japanese than New York is. Not to mention all the piers shown in that pic, and the big ass ships. San Francisco does have a lot of piers, and there are a lot of old ships in this area as well. Then there's the skyscrapers, and the one in the middle does look somewhat pointy to me, like the TransAmerica building in real-life SF. Also, the fact that Hiun City is on either a small island or a peninsula (and it looks man-made) is easily comparable to the fact that San Francisco is on a peninsula (which, if memory serves, is also mostly man-made). All these bring me to the conclusion that Hiun City is based off of San Francisco.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Ramzal on May 19, 2010, 03:02:24 AM
Um... Bit off topic, but did anyone but me think "Wow. Why does guy in the white suit looks like a Japanese Hitler....?"
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 19, 2010, 03:04:49 AM
What guy?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 19, 2010, 03:05:51 AM
The guy on Pokemon Sunday who does that Hitler pose at the end of most videos.  And no I thought that too.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 19, 2010, 03:06:38 AM
Oh. I suppose so, then. lol
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 19, 2010, 09:01:56 PM
HAIL! HITLAR!! XD, *sigh* bad joke.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on May 21, 2010, 02:58:34 AM
i can't wait until they introduce some more new moves like stealth fire balls or something
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on May 21, 2010, 03:34:46 AM
HAIL! HITLAR!! XD, *sigh* bad joke.
You wrote it false.
"Heil Hitler!" is more correct.

Now I will watch some Hellsing OVA with german dub. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okj1gSzw8RY)  :P
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 21, 2010, 04:43:11 AM
i can't wait until they introduce some more new moves like stealth fire balls or something

well at least there'll be less scizor usage!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 21, 2010, 04:46:00 AM
Umm... Thanatos, I think he was writing it as a Pokémon's name, like Tyranitar...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on May 21, 2010, 05:56:14 AM
Umm... Thanatos, I think he was writing it as a Pokémon's name, like Tyranitar...
Ah yes Tyranitar... The tyrant under the lizards just like the Tyrannosaurus Rex. In japan called Bangiras his name means, if the database I visited is correct, the barbarian which hates. In german we dubbed him Despotar... The despot under the lizards. All what he is, is hommage to Godzilla. However I cannot imagine him as a fascist.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 21, 2010, 06:23:25 AM
I think you still missed the point. He wasn't calling him Tyranitar, he just gave him a Pokémon-like name. I used Tyranitar as an example... *facewall* *hits stud* *facewall* *breaks through stud*
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Thanatos-Zero on May 21, 2010, 06:37:58 AM
I think you still missed the point. He wasn't calling him Tyranitar, he just gave him a Pokémon-like name. I used Tyranitar as an example... *facewall* *hits stud* *facewall* *breaks through stud*

Nevertheless the example you gave, was actually a good one, but why don't you ask theOnly about what he really meant?
I have only cared about the Hitlergruß he has written.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 21, 2010, 08:43:00 AM
Annnnyyywwwaaayyyysssss...... SO I HERD U LIEK SMUGLEAFZ...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 21, 2010, 09:35:23 AM
Nevertheless the example you gave, was actually a good one, but why don't you ask theOnly about what he really meant?
I have only cared about the Hitlergruß he has written.
TheOnly is just making a joke (a bit of a lame one) at the presenter in the Pokemon Sunday show.
There's nothing deeper than that. -AC
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 21, 2010, 10:41:49 AM
I figured Thanatos had looked too deep into it. Remember, don't take everything to mean some super-deep thing. Sometimes all it is... is a joke and nothing more. No deep or hidden meaning at all.

I also can't wait to hear about new moves. And will Flash regain its HM status in this gen? :D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 21, 2010, 10:55:06 AM
And will Flash regain its HM status in this gen? :D
No.
And never will.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on May 21, 2010, 11:03:58 AM
Personally, I'm glad they reduced flash to just a TM that could be used outside of battle. I mean, it's only used outside of battle in about one place per game, at most. And, quite frankly, there are better accuracy-lowering moves. But, that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 21, 2010, 11:29:19 AM
I wasn't serious. I just think it's funny it got demoted.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 21, 2010, 03:54:54 PM
Rock Smash also needs demoting imo, same with Rock Climb. Certainly there has to be a better way of designing HMs skills to be more transparent and non party member altering or making travel less troublesome in certain spots after getting there once.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 21, 2010, 04:08:39 PM
Rock Climb I can agree there.
Though I think Rock Smash is a bit better in HGSS, like getting all those Revives and Max Ethers, rather than just getting Pokemon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 21, 2010, 05:40:40 PM
Yea, it was just a lame joke for all those who wondered -.-...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 21, 2010, 10:05:32 PM
I figured that much.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 22, 2010, 06:50:37 AM
I'm waiting for them to take the Mystery Dungeon approach and just use the HM itself to travel regardless of whether or not you taught the move.  Besides Surf, HM moves in general tend to be crap.  Say what you want about Flash, but Defog was a new low.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 22, 2010, 06:53:31 AM
Say what you want about Flash, but Defog was a new low.
You can say that again I mean it's easier to get around a foggy area than a dark cave but the fequent misses [acid burst] me off.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on May 22, 2010, 06:57:12 AM
Well, they got rid of Defog after... Wait, was it still in Platinum?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on May 22, 2010, 07:25:46 AM
was it still in Platinum?
of course it was
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 22, 2010, 08:13:34 AM
Yep, it is a Gen 4 HM afterall.
Though, I rather miss Dive as a HM move.

Besides Surf, HM moves in general tend to be crap.
BUT FLY IS AWESOME TOO
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 22, 2010, 08:22:51 AM
Fly kicks ass! It's your typical teleport move for the overworld!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 22, 2010, 09:07:23 AM
Y'know what doesn't kick ass? Your terrible posts.


It'd be nice if pokemon got an entirely new team of developers, wouldn't it? One that wouldn't leave in obviously awful design just because things have always been that way. HMs and IVs and hidden game mechanics and everything like that. But no, of course that couldn't happen.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 22, 2010, 09:09:28 AM
Whoa, let's not get personal here. If you don't like something this bad, and obviously want it to end, then don't even waste any time berating people who do like the series and do like the current developers.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 22, 2010, 09:18:02 AM
Yeah, I don't think the game is perfect in every possible way, OBVIOUSLY I HATE IT AND WANT TO SEE IT DESTROYED.

HM moves being worthless in battle but necessary to get around the game world is terrible design. Yes, really.

And I'm not berating you for liking the game, I'm berating you for your BUT FLY IS AWESOME LOOK AT ME I'M DELIBERATELY ACTING STUPID ISN'T THAT FUNNY post. Because posts like that suck.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 22, 2010, 09:19:22 AM
Really? I wasn't acting like that at all; I think you took my posts the wrong way. Now how about you stop attacking me here, eh?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 22, 2010, 09:21:07 AM
Oh.

Really?

Oh.


Well, uh, just to let you know, Fly is a terrible move. Don't try using it against anything but the idiotic AI, it won't end well. Really won't end well.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 22, 2010, 09:25:24 AM
Ok, ok. Timeout now. =_=
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 22, 2010, 09:27:56 AM
see hms are directly responsible for this strife

THAT'S HOW BAD THEY ARE
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 22, 2010, 09:36:09 AM
Ummmm, I think HM moves were made more for outside-of-battle than inside-of-battle. That's how I always saw it to be. 
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 22, 2010, 09:39:36 AM
I did too, TheOnly. There are a few good HM moves that are useful in-battle (Surf and Waterfall and... well that's pretty much it.) But for the most part, the point of HMs is for overworld actions. Which is generally why I use my 6th slot Pokémon as a HM slave if it's capable of this, so my other team members will actually be of use in battle, and not have their movesets clogged with crappy moves that can only be forgotten with the aid of the Move Deleter.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 22, 2010, 09:42:35 AM
If they're not meant for use in battle, then why the hell do they still take up my moveslots?

It's just... dumb.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 22, 2010, 09:47:38 AM
Because the game would be even easier if they didn't.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on May 22, 2010, 09:48:50 AM
Besides, said HM moves are things that the friggin' critters should know how to do on their own accord. EX: Surf = Swimming, Strength = Moving something out of the way, Rock Smash = Breaking Rocks, etc.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 22, 2010, 05:50:07 PM
  Besides Surf, HM moves in general tend to be crap.  Say what you want about Flash, but Defog was a new low.

Yeah, Defog was completely unnecessary, good thing because I never taught it to anything >_> And I disagree about the other statement, Fly is good for ingame, and Waterfall/Strenght/Rock Climb is quite decent if your pokemon is a physical attacker, Whirlpool on the other hand...did they really need to bring it back? ::)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 22, 2010, 05:51:56 PM
Well, Whirlpool was a HM back in GSC, so it's expected.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 22, 2010, 05:53:15 PM
They could've reduced it to a TM like Flash >_>
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 22, 2010, 05:58:08 PM
The TM list has been constant since DPPt. >.>;
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 23, 2010, 02:25:29 AM
Strenght/Rock Climb is quite decent if your pokemon is a physical attacker

You ever heard of a move called Return?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 23, 2010, 03:07:57 AM
Yes but I'm talking only about HMs ingame, I'm not talking about the metagame since I know there are better options. I'm just saying that for moves that you're forced to use they're not too bad.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 23, 2010, 03:15:46 AM
So ppl, ppl, how about changing the subject? This talk of HMs is little by little turning into a cyber blood war.-.-"
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 23, 2010, 05:09:23 AM
Yeah, Defog was completely unnecessary, good thing because I never taught it to anything >_> And I disagree about the other statement, Fly is good for ingame, and Waterfall/Strenght/Rock Climb is quite decent if your pokemon is a physical attacker, Whirlpool on the other hand...did they really need to bring it back? ::)
Waterfall is only useful NOW because of the 4th Gen special split.  In that way, you're correct, but in the last two generations, it was worthless.

Fly, for in-game, yes it works.  Appreciated, even, due to the frequent lack of Flying type attack access.  Against actual humans it's junk.  2-turn moves invite a switch (why oh WHY can't they skip the recharge for a successful Hyper Beam finish like they used to?).  And even in the in-game you have to pray your 'man stays healthy.

Strength is worthless next to Return and Body Slam.

Rock Climb is nice for the Confusion side-effect, but there's no reason its accuracy shouldn't be higher.  It's also redundant, type-wise, since the HM list already includes Cut and Strength.

Yes but I'm talking only about HMs ingame, I'm not talking about the metagame since I know there are better options. I'm just saying that for moves that you're forced to use they're not too bad.
If it's inferior, it's inferior.  By all means, Strength is passable, yes.  But whether you're against a human or a CPU doesn't change the fact that it's an inferior attack strength to your other options.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: X-3 on May 23, 2010, 05:40:46 AM
Maybe they should just let badges just automatically let certain Pokemon do out-of battle stuff without the need of a HM. HMS then could just turn into TMs unrelated to out-of battle actions.

HMs just...get too much in the way, I suppose. They're a pain, what with being magically unlearn-able unless you bring it to some mind-warping man in some city. I get annoyed easily sometimes.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 23, 2010, 05:42:34 AM
Maybe they should just let badges just automatically let certain Pokemon do out-of battle stuff without the need of a HM. HMS then could just turn into TMs unrelated to out-of battle actions.

HMs just...get too much in the way, I suppose. They're a pain, what with being magically unlearn-able unless you bring it to some mind-warping man in some city. I get annoyed easily sometimes.
Just annoyed? I can't match the Elite Four with ROCK SMASH.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 23, 2010, 07:07:10 AM
If it's inferior, it's inferior.  By all means, Strength is passable, yes.  But whether you're against a human or a CPU doesn't change the fact that it's an inferior attack strength to your other options.

Hey, at least they're not as weak as Cut or Rock Smash :P Honestly, most if not all players are not even going to use the pokemon they used ingame for VS anyways because of IVs/EVs/bad natures/whatever anyways, so why waste the better options on them?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 23, 2010, 04:51:15 PM
You can't "waste" an HM, it's infinitely reusable.  Furthermore, although unlikely, it is possible to use vs-grade 'mans in gameplay.  All you have to do is either EV train ahead of time (and pray someone can trade you the Power- items), or invest in a lot of stat-reducing berries when you're done.

Inevitably you wind up with an "HM whore" or two.

They're a pain, what with being magically unlearn-able unless you bring it to some mind-warping man in some city.
From a gameplay standpoint, it's necessary to prevent you from trapping yourself.  Suppose you lack Fly, you fight somebody on an island, and forget Surf?  Or you forget Strength in the middle of a cave?

Hm, you know, if they were to make HMs usable by the trainer directly, I think Teleport would have to replace Fly.  It'd be pretty weird for a disc to enable kids to soar through the air.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on May 23, 2010, 07:40:02 PM
You can't "waste" an HM, it's infinitely reusable.

Uh, I know that Shell, I wasn't talking about HMs there .__.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on May 23, 2010, 08:46:46 PM
This is why I liked Colloseum and XD; all the fun of a Pokemon game without those HM's clogging your movesets.  It's nice to use a Flying-type without the move Fly on it for a change.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 23, 2010, 08:58:27 PM
It's nice to use a Flying-type without the move Fly on it for a change.

Just don't teach it Fly then.  :/
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 24, 2010, 12:32:35 AM
From a gameplay standpoint, it's necessary to prevent you from trapping yourself.  Suppose you lack Fly, you fight somebody on an island, and forget Surf?  Or you forget Strength in the middle of a cave?

Hm, you know, if they were to make HMs usable by the trainer directly, I think Teleport would have to replace Fly.  It'd be pretty weird for a disc to enable kids to soar through the air.
True.

I would want that disc. It would end my transportation woes forever.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 28, 2010, 06:36:16 PM
(http://i50.tinypic.com/2hci4uo.jpg)

English site (http://www.pokemon.com/blackwhite/en/)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on May 28, 2010, 06:37:36 PM
(http://i50.tinypic.com/2hci4uo.jpg)

English site (http://www.pokemon.com/blackwhite/en/)
Purdy.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 28, 2010, 06:37:56 PM
ReshiRAM and ZekROM
COMPUTER POKEMON THAT'S NOT THE PORYGON LINE
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 28, 2010, 06:50:31 PM
Forgot to mention, the Japanese site (http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/#) got updated as well. Nothing new besides the two legendaries. There are videos up, the one's seen from Pokémon Sunday, but now you can hear the music. The Japanese games are being released in September. :v
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 28, 2010, 06:52:20 PM
Nice. Can't wait for September.
Also, Black's the choice here.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on May 28, 2010, 07:05:05 PM
So what, we've got Reshiram, and Mechareshiram?

If you're gonna make a obvious copy pokemon could you at least copy a design that isn't y'know awful? It's been like seven years since Metagross was designed, and the best you've managed to come up with is this scruffy looking bird and its evil clone?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 28, 2010, 07:13:44 PM
Sounds like we are running out of ideas ppl. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on May 28, 2010, 07:20:42 PM
Is it me or does Zekrom resemble Palkia?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on May 28, 2010, 07:22:33 PM
those are ugly

that is all.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Acid on May 28, 2010, 07:37:02 PM
I think they're pretty cool.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 28, 2010, 07:38:21 PM
I love the Outlaw Star engine that Zekrom has on his ass!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on May 28, 2010, 07:39:15 PM
I love the Outlaw Star engine that Zekrom has on his ass!
Looks like some kinda drill.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 28, 2010, 07:44:10 PM
Maybe Zekron is looking for the Galactic Leyline.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 28, 2010, 07:59:00 PM
Maybe Zekron is looking for the Galactic Leyline.

TO PEIRCE THE HEAVENS WITH! *ahem* I'm going for black as in tradition. I ALWAYS get the oppisite color/gem.

Blue > Silver > Sapphire > Diamond > SS > Black.

Now to figure out the "Special Edition" legendary for BW..
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 28, 2010, 08:13:49 PM
Maybe they will make a Pokemon Grey Version. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on May 28, 2010, 08:15:42 PM
Pokemon Brown
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on May 28, 2010, 08:16:46 PM
After Time, Space, antimater, life, death and the God himself we got Light and Darkness?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 28, 2010, 08:19:40 PM
DARKNESS
The answer to everything.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on May 28, 2010, 09:52:25 PM
Team Dark and team Light?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 28, 2010, 09:52:39 PM
Nah, we got DIGITAL! DIGITAL DARKNESS!

And how fitting with Nintendo's policy regarding emulation, the dark one is ZekROM.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 28, 2010, 10:05:08 PM
I love the Outlaw Star engine that Zekrom has on his ass!

...

Holy [parasitic bomb], this is just as bad as my sister telling me that the speedometers near the base of the steering wheel in Galaxy 2's hub makes it look like a Totoro. I can't unsee this [parasitic bomb]. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 28, 2010, 10:10:35 PM
...

Holy [parasitic bomb], this is just as bad as my sister telling me that the speedometers near the base of the steering wheel in Galaxy 2's hub makes it look like a Totoro. I can't unsee this [parasitic bomb]. XD

My work here is done!  8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on May 28, 2010, 10:19:23 PM
Wow! seroiusly I like those legendary pokemon , their desings are different, but are well done.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 28, 2010, 11:57:30 PM
If you're gonna make a obvious copy pokemon could you at least copy a design that isn't y'know awful? It's been like seven years since Metagross was designed, and the best you've managed to come up with is this scruffy looking bird and its evil clone?
I don't see it.
The only bad thing would be that they resemble the colossi from Shadow of the Colossus, if that is even a bad thing.
Plus, they don't look that much like birds.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on May 29, 2010, 12:02:31 AM
I'm still indecisive over which version to play when the time comes.
Previous games I was able to decide on which version I think sounded better, or the colour I preferred.
But with black and white, I hate both.

I'm gonna be contemplating this for a long...long time.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on May 29, 2010, 12:27:06 AM
...

Holy [parasitic bomb], this is just as bad as my sister telling me that the speedometers near the base of the steering wheel in Galaxy 2's hub makes it look like a Totoro. I can't unsee this [parasitic bomb]. XD
...THANKS A LOT.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 29, 2010, 12:27:34 AM
I love the Outlaw Star engine that Zekrom has on his ass!
Oh god it's true! XD

I seriously hope the the white one is for white.

I'm still indecisive over which version to play when the time comes.
Previous games I was able to decide on which version I think sounded better, or the colour I preferred.
But with black and white, I hate both.

I'm gonna be contemplating this for a long...long time.
So does that mean you never got an iPod video?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on May 29, 2010, 08:43:09 AM
They look strong that's for sure.

I like the white one.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on May 29, 2010, 02:45:11 PM
More info, such as: Reshiram and Zekrom's Type; Games Enhanced for DSi; Zoroark's English Name.

Quote from: PokéBeach
The Daisuki Club (http://www.pokemon.jp/portal/index.cfm) on the official Japanese Pokemon website is now calling Reshiram and Zekrom the "Legendary Dragon Pokemon," meaning they will at least be part Dragon-type like Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina. Their second type, if any, is not yet known at this time.

Larger versions of Black and White's box art have been released, revealing that both games will have enhanced features for the Nintendo DSi (click the thumbnail below for a larger image). If you look at the bottom right of each box, you will see their game code. The first part of the code - "TWL" - is Nintendo's way of denoting that the games are enhanced for the DSi. Most DS games are labeled "NTR," meaning there is no difference in their features when playing them on the first DS, the DS Lite, or the DSi. So, what will these enhanced features be? Well, we don't know yet obviously!

(http://i49.tinypic.com/4rwdcm.jpg) (http://i49.tinypic.com/4rwdcm.jpg)

Additionally, the Daisuki Club sent out an e-mail to its members stating some basic factoids about the version differences between the two games; thanks go to Yaminokame for translating it below! What could the bold statement be referring to?

    What are the differences between Pocket Monsters Black  and Pocket Monsters White?
   
    Other than how to meet the legendary Pokemon Reshiram and Zekrom, things like encountered Pokemon and
    Pokemon encounter rates differ between the two versions! You can enjoy trading Pokemon that only appear in one
    version by using the local wireless and Wi-Fi connections with your family, friends, and players from all over the
    country! There is another big version difference as well, which we will reveal later! We'll keep showing you
    detailed information on the Pokemon Daisuki Club website! Don't miss it!!

And last but not least, Zoroark.com (http://www.zoroark.com/)  was registered back in late February and now redirects to Pokemon.com (http://www.pokemon.com/). This pretty much confirms that Zoroark will keep its Japanese name for the English games. Like Manaphy, Darkrai, Reshiram, and Zekrom, special or popular Pokemon are always made into .com's and redirected to the English Pokemon website.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on May 29, 2010, 02:55:11 PM
More info, such as: Reshiram and Zekrom's Type; Games Enhanced for DSi; Zoroark's English Name.

Same crappy differences as always to make the quick buck.

...and so pretty much every single hardcore fan will buy the same game twice.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 29, 2010, 03:51:08 PM
Hehe, the differences are still the same.
And what? Enchancement for playing on the DSi?
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Anyways, since Zekrom is officially White's legendary, getting White first instead.
Though, in the end, I might just get both on release day. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on May 29, 2010, 03:52:50 PM
I honestly don't care which one I end up getting at this point.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 29, 2010, 07:57:05 PM
Okay so the Reshiram is not for White version but I'll still get White.  And why do I get the feeling that Zekrom will be the first Dragon/Rock pokemon?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on May 29, 2010, 08:41:30 PM
Hahahaha, awesome. At first, everyone was like "I'LL GET BLACK BECAUSE BLACK IS COOL!" and then the legendaries came out and with Zekrom being the White Legendary, people are gonna start going "I'll get white because it has that cool black legendary!".

I'll probably end up getting the one people buy less of. I got Pearl when everyone I know wanted Diamond and I got HeartGold when it seems SoulSilver is the big seller.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on May 29, 2010, 09:31:52 PM
Though that black legendary is smexy, I can't make any judgments, as I wish to get the game with the better exclusive Pokemon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Karai on May 29, 2010, 10:00:49 PM
Hehe, the differences are still the same.
And what? Enchancement for playing on the DSi?
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Let's hope that it's only something small, like uhh... own photo in the Trainer Card.

Anyway, I really like Zekrom's design.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Harruhy on May 29, 2010, 10:10:13 PM
Quote from: Pokébeach
Most DS games are labeled "NTR"
Quote from: Pokébeach
NTR

NTR is commonly used as abbreviation for;

Quote from: VNDB
Netorare (寝取られ) are games where someone steals the heroine away from the protagonist.

These types of games are designed to cause the player to have sexual jealousy.

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Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 29, 2010, 10:13:15 PM
Hehe, the differences are still the same.
And what? Enchancement for playing on the DSi?
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Thank the Maker I have one. :3
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 30, 2010, 12:37:24 AM
Again, I just wants the Pokemon with the Outlaw Star ass.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on May 30, 2010, 12:46:33 AM
So does that mean you never got an iPod video?
I don't own any Apple products.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: DjKlzonez on May 30, 2010, 12:48:54 AM
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll113/Whelt/Edits/pokemonblack.png)
You don't want to see the other version...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on May 30, 2010, 01:30:14 AM
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll113/Whelt/Edits/pokemonblack.png)
You don't want to see the other version...
Racist Tintin is best Tintin. Gotta love the part where he genocides animals like a mofo.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: X-3 on May 30, 2010, 03:24:36 AM
NTR is commonly used as abbreviation for;

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of that!

I was hoping that Zekrom was going to be Dark/Rock or something. He could have passed as some sort of bizarre gargoyle. Here's hoping for Dragon/Rock or something, then.

I like him much better than Reshiram, but I'll have to see what exclusives each version has before making any final decisions.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 30, 2010, 03:54:29 AM
Quote from: The Damned
Also, plushies!

(http://frentebatalla.com/noticias/editor/uploads/imagenes/2010/2/k2iw5c.jpg)
(http://frentebatalla.com/noticias/editor/uploads/imagenes/2010/2/30bco6t_1.jpg)
(http://frentebatalla.com/noticias/editor/uploads/imagenes/2010/2/34ht08i.jpg)

Anyone else notice the slightly different colors on Mijumaru's posterboard in the background of Pokabu? Alt color?
Pulled from the B/W thread over at OCR after I posted the Pokébeach quote I pulled from here over there.

Prepare for glomping.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 30, 2010, 08:25:08 AM
Pulled from the B/W thread over at OCR after I posted the Pokébeach quote I pulled from here over there.

Prepare for glomping.
OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD *uber glomps*

Let's hope that it's only something small, like uhh... own photo in the Trainer Card.
Coincidentantly, I'll thinking it might have something to do with the camera.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Karai on May 30, 2010, 03:23:25 PM
Another idea: since those games apparently are about the sky becoming light and dark (by PokéBeach's latest news (http://pokebeach.com/2010/05/meanings-for-reshiram-and-zekrom-names-clues-for-black-white)), maybe cameras will act as a light sensor, like in Boktai?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on May 30, 2010, 03:58:52 PM
Another idea: since those games apparently are about the sky becoming light and dark (by PokéBeach's latest news (http://pokebeach.com/2010/05/meanings-for-reshiram-and-zekrom-names-clues-for-black-white)), maybe cameras will act as a light sensor, like in Boktai?
God no. It was bad enough to wait for daytime back then. >_>
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: prower42 on May 31, 2010, 01:04:05 AM
Pulled from the B/W thread over at OCR after I posted the Pokébeach quote I pulled from here over there.

Prepare for glomping.

must...
resist...
glomp reflex...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 31, 2010, 04:38:23 PM
Quote
Nakagawa Shoko, the hostess of Japanese variety show Pokémon Sunday recently posted an entry into her blog possibly revealing Zekrom’s type. Shoko wrote she would love to voice Zekrom in a movie because Electric is her favourite Pokémon type. The blog post was then later removed which leads us to believe that Zekrom will be Dragon/Electric type, the fact that the blog was removed strengthens the rumour.

This still isn’t confirmed but for now it seems quite likely, this would also make Zekrom the first Electric/Dragon type Pokémon.
Source (http://www.pokemonaus.com/?p=739)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on May 31, 2010, 06:33:38 PM
LEAKS LEAKS AND MORE LEAKS!! Other then that, Dragon/Electric type sounds scary combination, but cool all at the same time.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 31, 2010, 06:50:41 PM
Maybe Zekron is looking for the Galactic Leyline.
This game will be ruined forever if Dragonite doesn't learn Pay Day.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on May 31, 2010, 09:48:05 PM
Source (http://www.pokemonaus.com/?p=739)
I LOVE SHOKO. Will she chew on another cat's head this time?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on May 31, 2010, 10:14:31 PM
I LOVE SHOKO. Will she chew on another cat's head this time?

She eats cats? o~O
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on May 31, 2010, 11:15:24 PM
She eats cats? o~O
(http://i26.tinypic.com/dqsrhv.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 01, 2010, 02:45:10 PM
That cat looks ready to bite back...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Kit on June 01, 2010, 09:58:03 PM
The white legendary thing has a fluffy [ray splasher].
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Mage J on June 02, 2010, 03:14:24 AM
(http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Daily/2010/06-Jun/01/Pokemon%20White%20&%20Black/poke%20CYOA1--article_image.jpg)
This is what I want.
Source. (http://www.gamesradar.com/ds/pokemon-black-white/news/6-ways-wed-like-to-see-pokemon-black-white-be-different/a-20100601125126813023/g-201004091000657031)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 02, 2010, 03:16:20 AM
(http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Daily/2010/06-Jun/01/Pokemon%20White%20&%20Black/poke%20CYOA1--article_image.jpg)
This is what I want.
Source. (http://www.gamesradar.com/ds/pokemon-black-white/news/6-ways-wed-like-to-see-pokemon-black-white-be-different/a-20100601125126813023/g-201004091000657031)

A JRPG? With CHOICES?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The very notion of JRPG is "you have to follow a crappy storyline like a movie and grind your characters like some crazy mofo".
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Mage J on June 02, 2010, 03:19:04 AM
I'll show YOU! People need to break away from the original molding!!
One day, I swear, ONE DAY!!!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 02, 2010, 03:22:13 AM
That would make it a WRPG, not a JRPG. It would not be breaking the mold, it would be changing the genre.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Mage J on June 02, 2010, 03:24:39 AM
Sigh, breaking from the mold could mean changing the genre...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 02, 2010, 03:28:45 AM
Yeah... but you know as well as I do that they'll never do that.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 02, 2010, 03:31:47 AM
Sigh, breaking from the mold could mean changing the genre...
The reason why I pretty much never, ever play JRPGs. Involving stories = WATCHING A DAMN MOVIE.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on June 02, 2010, 03:32:52 AM
The very notion of JRPG is "you have to follow a crappy storyline like a movie and grind your characters like some crazy mofo".

Some JRPGs did have the "choose your own path" option, but some of those were to lead to a Game Over, what's up with that?  o-O

Also: Return of pokemon following you, I know this is slim, but I always did like this neat little feature. and with a large park as shown in the previews, it would be a very nice touch. And ACTUAL pokemon performing *insert action here* please, no more shilouettes of Latios/Latias and Walimer while surfing/flying before the whiteout.  -AC
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on June 02, 2010, 03:34:34 AM
They will, and they have, but it's limited to side-stories.  The original formula will always exist beside whatever else they want to try.  See Pokemon Colosseum.

Sigh, breaking from the mold could mean changing the genre...
The Pokemon mold is very, very tight.  Of all the games to use the turn-based mechanics, in only one side-story (again, Colosseum) were you ever *NOT* playing as a child prodigy upstaging the experienced trainers.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Mage J on June 02, 2010, 03:57:10 AM
Yeah... but you know as well as I do that they'll never do that.
Well, I would at the very least like it for some minor things, not like I ever thought of Pokemon as a story-heavy game series. At the very least side quests to flesh you, the main character, out.
But you know, if they have enough money to make spinoffs, sell plushies, toys, a t.v series, movies and, well, everything.
    
You know, refine it so it is top-notch, and what I am seeing looks pretty good. But of course, one cannot judge well by simply watching it in action, how it plays is what counts.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on June 02, 2010, 04:41:15 AM
Am I the only one that thinks that the concept of Pokemon would better work in a turn-based strategy mechanic?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 02, 2010, 12:01:29 PM
Am I the only one that thinks that the concept of Pokemon would better work in a turn-based strategy mechanic?
That would actually make the size issue of Pokémon alot more notacle and multiplayer matches of Mewtwo versus Ratatta wouldn't be as even. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 02, 2010, 06:49:52 PM
I always lol'd in Diamond when the footprint guy wanted to measure my Dialga's footprint... inside his house... I thought Dialga was huge!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: TheOnly on June 04, 2010, 02:53:01 AM
Maybe Dialga only poped its foot out while the pokeball was open. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 04, 2010, 03:10:47 AM
I think his foot was bigger than the guy's house... :P
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 09, 2010, 10:53:16 PM
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=126413

Oh GameStop.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on June 09, 2010, 11:48:42 PM
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=126413

Oh GameStop.
Whoa. The freaking system for which it's going to be designed isn't even out yet.

I think...

This isn't a DS title, right?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 10, 2010, 12:10:20 AM
Whoa. The freaking system for which it's going to be designed isn't even out yet.

I think...

This isn't a DS title, right?
As far as I know, it is.
Title: 7 new Pokemon leaked!
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 11, 2010, 03:57:55 PM
Yep, still a DS title.
And it says April 1st.
...
...
... 8D

Posted on: June 10, 2010, 17:23:09
Source: Pokebeach.com (http://pokebeach.com/2010/06/june-corocoro-scans-leaked-new-pokemon)

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9977/junecorocoronewpokemon.jpg) (http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/7866/junecorocoronewpokemon2.jpg) (http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/455/corocororeshiram.jpg)

Quote from: Water Pokemon Master
  • The white Pokemon is named Chiramii (チラーミィ). It is the Chinchilla Pokemon, a Normal-type. Its abilities are Cute Charm or Technician and it knows a new movie called "Sweep Slap," which hits the opponent multiple times. It is 0.4m tall and 5.8kg in weight.
  • The pink Pokemon is named Mun'na (ムンナ). It is the Dream Eater Pokemon, a Psychic-type, and has Forewarn and Synchronize as its abilities. A new attack it knows is "Telekinesis," which makes the opponent float in the air. It is 0.6m tall and 23.3kg in weight.
  • The mechanical Pokemon below is the Gear Pokemon, appropriately named Gear (ギアル). It is a Steel-type and its ability is either "Plus" or "Minus." It has a new attack called "Gear Saucer," which you can see it using i below - it attacks the opponent multiple times with both of its gears. It is 0.3m tall and weighs 21.0kg.
  • Mamepato (マメパト) is the Baby Pidgeon Pokemon and is a Normal / Flying type. Its abilities are either "Pidgeon Breast" or "Super Luck." In a screenshot below, Mijumaru tries to lower its Defense, but it doesn't work because of one of Mamepato's abilities prevents it. It is 0.3m tall and weighs 2.1kg.
  • Hihidaruma (ヒヒダルマ) is the Flaming Pokemon, a Fire-type. Its ability is "Encourage." It is 1.3m tall and weighs 92.9kg.
  • Shimama (シママ) is the Charged Pokemon, Electric, and has "Lightningrod" or "Motor Drive" as its abilities. It has a new attack called "Wild Volt," which does a lot of damage but also hurts the user. It is 0.8m tall and 29.8kg.
  • Meguroko (メグロコ) is the Desert Crocodile Pokemon, a Ground / Dark type. Its abilities are Intimidate and "Earthquake Spiral," the latter of which raises its Attack stat when it knocks out a Pokemon.
  • The professor of Isshu is female and named Professor Araragi, as you can see below. She presents a Chiramii to the player in the "World of Pokemon" intro at the start of the game. The rumors we posted yesterday may also be true too, since Professor Araragi's name was among them (some of the rumors have actually been circulating since April, including her name).
  • There is some sort of new in-game connection device called the C Gear. It has "various connection capabilities," though we do not know what that means at this time. To the left of its screenshot below, the magazine says, "What's this screen!?... It looks like a new wireless feature was added!"
  • There is a new feature called Random Match, which you can access from the Global Terminal inside Pokemon Centers. It will allow players to randomly battle other players over the Internet. It then says that you can work together over the Internet by uploading your Black and White save file to play against other opponents (?!).

Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on June 11, 2010, 04:02:25 PM
Mmmm, new professor~ <3 >U<

I want the Chiramii too! So cute~ ^oo^
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: DarkWaltz on June 11, 2010, 04:05:00 PM
CHINCHILLA~!  <3  <3  <3

Okay I'm calm. XD Awesome info on some new Pokemon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 11, 2010, 04:07:14 PM
And time for some of my guesses for English names. XD

Chiramii = Chinchi
Mun'na = ?
Gear = Gear 8D
Mamepato = ?
Hihidaruma = Wildflame
Shimama = Zapbra
Meguroko = Groundile
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Saber on June 11, 2010, 04:10:46 PM
And here I thought that the Pokémon designs couldn't get any uglier anymore. I was wrong.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 11, 2010, 04:31:48 PM
I love the design of the Electric Zebra!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on June 11, 2010, 04:43:25 PM
And here I thought that the Pokémon designs couldn't get any uglier anymore. I was wrong.
Yeah, and the second gen Pokemon were the forefront of artistic design even though every single [tornado fang]ing gen looks generally the same? Yeah, you're totally not being a nostalgiaturd.

These things look awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on June 11, 2010, 04:47:28 PM
Knowing Pixiv, I expect porn of this new Pokemon Prof. (and some brock swooning ASAP in the beginning of the next anime that follows this game).

Hopefully it doesn't get TOO cute this gen, or this one might go on it's pen name "the gen that sissied out".   X(

And yes, we do get yet ANOTHER rat pokemon.  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gary Loaki on June 11, 2010, 05:50:21 PM
Ground Gator is gonna have a badass evolution. Guaranteed.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Saber on June 11, 2010, 05:54:31 PM
Yeah, and the second gen Pokemon were the forefront of artistic design even though every single [tornado fang]ing gen looks generally the same? Yeah, you're totally not being a nostalgiaturd.

Nothing beats Second Generation. NOTHING.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on June 11, 2010, 07:29:37 PM
Johto (2nd) and Kanto (1st) were the best. ^.^

Pokémon Stadium 2 + Pokémon Crystal connectivity = So much love and so much hours spent on maxing out the Pokédex~ <3

And the same thing with Pokémon Stadium 1 + Pokémon Special Yellow Edition~ <3

I do like some of the Pokémons from the other generations tho. ^^;
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 11, 2010, 08:33:50 PM
Over at Bulbapedia, they're saying that Reshiram is Dragon/Fire and Zekrom is Dragon/Electric... just saying.

Also, 507 unique Pokémon now.

I like the new professor.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on June 11, 2010, 08:35:31 PM
Gear pokemon... Drill Dozer references... XD XD XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 11, 2010, 08:46:13 PM
(http://i45.tinypic.com/ibi5vm.jpg)

Have a look at that region. :v

Nothing beats Second Generation. NOTHING.

This man speaks truth.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 11, 2010, 08:48:48 PM
Damn. It's not the Bay Area as I'd hoped. Still, looks good.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on June 11, 2010, 08:54:12 PM
In what region is based Ishuu?????? D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 11, 2010, 08:54:59 PM
A far away land. I'm guessing somewhere in SE Asia...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 11, 2010, 09:07:17 PM
A baby bird pokemon that could have Super Luck, intresting.  So's the electric zebra.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sky on June 11, 2010, 09:23:41 PM
http://frentebatalla.com/noticias/editor/uploads/imagenes/2010/2/k2iw5c.jpg

....reposting because i can't find the original post to quote it

i love tsutaaja even more now
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 11, 2010, 09:34:51 PM
Are we eventually gonna have enough Pokémon regions to make a country, or an actual planet-wide world map?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 11, 2010, 09:35:14 PM
i love tsutaaja even more now

Yes. <3

His legend began in the 12th century, you know. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 11, 2010, 09:38:42 PM
Are we eventually gonna have enough Pokémon regions to make a country, or an actual planet-wide world map?
I think the first 4 are already big enough to be some kind of country.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on June 11, 2010, 09:39:24 PM
I think the first 4 are already big enough to be some kind of country.

Japan

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/Pokemon_World_Map_by_Cadellin.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/Pokemon_World_Map_by_Cadellin.png)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 11, 2010, 09:42:50 PM
Okay I was way off.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 11, 2010, 09:48:13 PM
Japan

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/Pokemon_World_Map_by_Cadellin.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/Pokemon_World_Map_by_Cadellin.png)
Hm, nice. It's funny. First time I imagined Japan to be this small. And hell, I live in a smaller country. But checking the sizes of the Pokémon games, that ain't too bad.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 11, 2010, 10:03:00 PM
Hmm... if Hoenn is rotated 90 degrees like that, than Isshu could still be the Bay! Or not... heh.

Also, what's the mark SW of Sinnoh there?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: GameSaver on June 11, 2010, 10:21:16 PM
(http://blog-imgs-27.fc2.com/d/o/u/doughtful/cocoron_03.gif)
Return of the dream tapir?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 11, 2010, 10:27:11 PM
Okay I was way off.

You didn't know? SERIOUSLY?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 11, 2010, 10:30:15 PM
I wasn't thinking in terms of Japan I was thinking in terms of a small 3rd world country.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dexter Dexter on June 11, 2010, 10:35:15 PM
Japan

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/Pokemon_World_Map_by_Cadellin.png) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/Pokemon_World_Map_by_Cadellin.png)
CAN'T... UNSEE!

Wait... there's a region missing... but I don't know which one... but you all knew that already.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on June 11, 2010, 10:35:26 PM
Quote
The pink Pokemon is named Mun'na (ムンナ). It is the Dream Eater Pokemon

So it's a Drowsee pre-evo then.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 11, 2010, 10:36:29 PM
So it's a Drowsee pre-evo then.
If that was true why is it so girly?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on June 11, 2010, 10:41:39 PM
Nothing beats Second Generation. NOTHING.
Yeah, a profusion of useless baby Pokemon that can neither breed nor battle sure is awesome, eh?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Saber on June 11, 2010, 10:48:38 PM
Yeah, a profusion of useless baby Pokemon that can neither breed nor battle sure is awesome, eh?

Who gives a damn about the babies? I'm talking about the other Pokémon. The legendaries, the starters, the new evolutions ([tornado fang]ing Scizor), goddamn Tyrannitar etc.

Second Generation was the only one that really felt like an overall improvement of Pokémon to me, while all the other generations since felt more like a cashcow. Yeah, they got some new features, but I think that the Pokémon themselves looked more and more uninspired, if not downright stupid (especially since certain types continue to repeat themselves, the Pokémon in the first regions of the games especially).
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 11, 2010, 10:50:15 PM
Um is it wrong that I have a partiality to Gen 3?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 11, 2010, 10:53:26 PM
Um is it wrong that I have a partiality to Gen 3?

You're just saying that because you like Torchic.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 11, 2010, 10:54:46 PM
And Absol, Salamance, Metagross, and Gardevoir.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on June 11, 2010, 10:55:00 PM
Who gives a damn about the babies?
Apparently you do because NOTHING BEATS SECOND GEN!!!!!!!

Second Generation was the only one that really felt like an overall improvement of Pokémon to me, while all the other generations since felt more like a cashcow. Yeah, they got some new features, but I think that the Pokémon themselves looked more and more uninspired, if not downright stupid (especially since certain types continue to repeat themselves, the Pokémon in the first regions of the games especially).
Wow, I didn't know you could copy-paste!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 11, 2010, 10:56:59 PM
Who gives a damn about the babies?

I do because without them thier evolved forms wouldn't be nearly as powerful and males can pass on thier moves.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 11, 2010, 10:58:48 PM
Wow, I didn't know you could copy-paste!

Completely ignore the fact that the series was suppose to end with Gen 2, why don't you.

Proving that everything after is a "cashcow" as Ben put it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on June 11, 2010, 10:59:39 PM
the series was suppose to end with Gen 2
help me i'm being trolled

And I guess because the games were cashcows, that automatically makes them [parasitic bomb]. That sum sound logic thar.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 11, 2010, 11:00:24 PM
Completely ignore the fact that the series was suppose to end with Gen 2, why don't you.

Proving that everything after is a "cashcow" as Ben put it.
That may be true but I still like Gen 3.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 11, 2010, 11:00:44 PM
First gen's still the best. It's the one that got 90% of the players hooked. And the one with fonder memories for me.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 11, 2010, 11:04:41 PM
help me i'm being trolled

lolwat (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=117054)

First gen's still the best. It's the one that got 90% of the players hooked. And the one with fonder memories for me.

My complete dex in my Blue version <3
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on June 11, 2010, 11:07:40 PM
lolwat (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=117054)
Okay, but that got axed. Are you still going to be fixated on that or something and wave a sign around saying that someone should go back in time to destroy the third and fourth gen and save pokeymanz?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dexter Dexter on June 11, 2010, 11:08:14 PM
lolwat (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=117054)
I wonder what Iwata is thinking now...
Title: Re: 7 new Pokemon leaked!
Post by: Sky on June 11, 2010, 11:08:32 PM
Yep, still a DS title.
And it says April 1st.
...
...
... 8D

Posted on: June 10, 2010, 17:23:09
Source: Pokebeach.com (http://pokebeach.com/2010/06/june-corocoro-scans-leaked-new-pokemon)

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9977/junecorocoronewpokemon.jpg) (http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/7866/junecorocoronewpokemon2.jpg) (http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/455/corocororeshiram.jpg)

is that foxy lady the new professor? i'd do her.

also PB i bet you $10 that the american name for electric zebra will be Zapra

(this thread moves too fast for me!!)


also i'm still waiting for that calf pokemon that officially links miltank and tauros
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 11, 2010, 11:11:45 PM
also PB i bet you $10 that the american name for electric zebra will be Zapra
Honestly, it wouldn't suprise me at all.

also i'm still waiting for that calf pokemon that officially links miltank and tauros
Hmm I wonder what it would look like?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dexter Dexter on June 11, 2010, 11:13:48 PM
The 5th gen prof looks like a MILF.

.....................................

Anyhow, some of the Pokémon look tacky, like the gear-looking ones, but some of them sound awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 11, 2010, 11:14:48 PM
Wait for the evolved forms.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sky on June 11, 2010, 11:15:42 PM
gearmon is bronzor but i REALLY love that white mouse thing oh my god it's cute

upon release i hope someone is willing to rip the animated tsutaaja sprite for me, i want that as my avatar forever
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dexter Dexter on June 11, 2010, 11:34:03 PM
Wait for the evolved forms.
Very well. So we shall.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on June 11, 2010, 11:36:14 PM
First gen's still the best. It's the one that got 90% of the players hooked. And the one with fonder memories for me.

Agreed  owob
Title: Re: 7 new Pokemon leaked!
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 12, 2010, 12:57:17 AM
is that foxy lady the new professor? i'd do her.

also PB i bet you $10 that the american name for electric zebra will be Zapra

You, me, new professor 3-way as soon as the game comes out!  XD

And I'LL TAKE THAT BET.  His name shall be Zebrolt!   8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 12, 2010, 04:32:04 AM
I'm keeping my bets on Zapbra. XD

Wait... there's a region missing... but I don't know which one... but you all knew that already.
But all's there... Well except Isshu of course.

help me i'm being trolled
I don't know, you seem to be do the same thing in my eyes as well.
It's all just opinions of who loves what generation.
Do we really want to take it SO far?
This is a warning to all and any other further opinions on the subject of Gen2. It's enough. We all get the point. Move on to the fifth gen, or just ignore.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dexter Dexter on June 12, 2010, 04:44:44 AM
But all's there... Well except Isshu of course.
Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh, only three regions marked on the map of Japan... I CAN'T UNSEE
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on June 12, 2010, 04:49:59 AM
I don't know, you seem to be do the same thing in my eyes as well.
It's all just opinions of who loves what generation.
Do we really want to take it SO far?
This is a warning to all and any other further opinions on the subject of Gen2. It's enough. We all get the point. Move on to the fifth gen, or just ignore.
This wasn't just OPINIONS OPINIONS; some people are whining because the fifth gen isn't the second gen, and quite frankly, when you've heard this for a year straight, you kinda get tired of it.

I mean, these people say "THE DESIGNS ARE UNORIGINAL" one moment, then they say "THE DESIGNS ARE LAZY". Which [tornado fang]ing one is it? There is just no pleasing these freaks.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 12, 2010, 04:52:15 AM
Doppler: Kanto and Johto are linked... even though it looks like one, it counts as two. Hoenn's in the southwest rotated 90 degrees, and Sinnoh's on the northeast end.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on June 12, 2010, 04:53:03 AM
(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1250/picture28o.png)

Get ready for a massive explosion of joy, pokemon can follow you again apparently. APPARENTLY, don't expect it.. much, I found out about it on TSR so..
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 12, 2010, 04:54:48 AM
If so, it must be a toggle or something. Turn it on and off.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on June 12, 2010, 04:55:51 AM
Enjoy some coincidence (and some irony) at the side~ (http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/5134/1276288243907.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dexter Dexter on June 12, 2010, 04:56:55 AM
Doppler: Kanto and Johto are linked... even though it looks like one, it counts as two. Hoenn's in the southwest rotated 90 degrees, and Sinnoh's on the northeast end.
GUHHHHUHGBLBARGHBLGRAGH I should've known...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on June 12, 2010, 04:58:40 AM
(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1250/picture28o.png)

Get ready for a massive explosion of joy, pokemon can follow you again apparently. APPARENTLY, don't expect it.. much, I found out about it on TSR so..

It's just the event Celebi from the Zoroa movie that lets you unlock Zoroark coming out for the event, so no, that's no comfirmation of anything =(
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dexter Dexter on June 12, 2010, 05:01:47 AM
Enjoy some coincidence (and some irony) at the side~ (http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/5134/1276288243907.jpg)
*stares at image for prolonged period of time* ...DON'T THEY HAVE A MILLION OF THOSE ALREADY?!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 12, 2010, 05:04:25 AM
This wasn't just OPINIONS OPINIONS; some people are whining because the fifth gen isn't the second gen, and quite frankly, when you've heard this for a year straight, you kinda get tired of it.

I mean, these people say "THE DESIGNS ARE UNORIGINAL" one moment, then they say "THE DESIGNS ARE LAZY". Which [tornado fang]ing one is it? There is just no pleasing these freaks.
And there's a point to argue with them on these? You're just gonna feed them to retaliate.
Just let them be, no need to explode all out on them.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 12, 2010, 05:16:49 AM
You think that's bad? My roommate refuses to acknowledge the existence of any Pokémon past Mew. She'll look at them and comment on them, but they're not Pokémon as far as she's concerned.

Haters gonna hate, or so they say. No point arguing with them; you'd be better off talking to a brick wall. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, just as you are entitled to yours. There's no point in further arguing.

Plus, Wily said stop. So stop.

That being said... I WANT MAH BOARBEQUE!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 12, 2010, 05:47:56 AM
Haters gonna hate, or so they say. No point arguing with them; you'd be better off talking to a brick wall. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, just as you are entitled to yours. There's no point in further arguing.

Plus, Wily said stop. So stop.

I swear if you mini-mod one more goddamn time....
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 12, 2010, 06:22:17 AM
Uh can we go on to talking about what the evolved forms of the new pokemon are going to look like?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 12, 2010, 06:24:36 AM
Uh can we go on to talking about what the evolved forms of the new pokemon are going to look like?

I can't wait to see Pokabu's.  I hope it's some kind of wild Boar with magma tusks!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on June 12, 2010, 06:24:51 AM
Is that new mouse thing gonna be in the top percentage of new mouse things?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 12, 2010, 06:26:31 AM
I can't wait to see Pokabu's.  I hope it's some kind of wild Boar with magma tusks!
Again as long as it's not going to be part fighting I'll love it.

Is that new mouse thing gonna be in the top percentage of new mouse things?
Not sure so far the mice weren't normal types.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 12, 2010, 06:28:41 AM
I doubt it'll be Fire/Fighting again.

It could possibly be Dark/Fire.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on June 12, 2010, 06:28:56 AM
(http://i45.tinypic.com/ibi5vm.jpg)

Have a look at that region. :v

It kind of reminds me of the NYC area for whatever reason. Maybe it's the placement of the bridges.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 12, 2010, 06:30:28 AM
I doubt it'll be Fire/Fighting again.

It could possibly be Dark/Fire.
Now that I would love because I love dark types, but that could mean he could look evil....or smug.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 12, 2010, 06:34:10 AM
Now that I would love because I love dark types, but that could mean he could look evil....or smug.

I'm perfectly fine with that!   8D

Also, if the Legendary Whitey is Dragon/Fire, I might have to think about which game I pick up.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 12, 2010, 06:35:27 AM
Eh I usually do what I usually do, I pick the second mentioned one, besides and electric dragon seems intresting.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on June 12, 2010, 06:36:26 AM
Since you guys are posting about the pig's evolution I need to repost this because I really want the evo to be something like it...
(http://i44.tinypic.com/16c2yw5.jpg)

Also, honestly, I want to see wotter's evo much more than the other two.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 12, 2010, 06:39:22 AM
Eh I usually do what I usually do, I pick the second mentioned one, besides and electric dragon seems intresting.

Yeah it does as well.  But I've been wanting a Dragon/Fire for the longest time now.

Since you guys are posting about the pig's evolution I need to repost this because I really want the evo to be something like it...
(http://i44.tinypic.com/16c2yw5.jpg)

Also, honestly, I want to see wotter's evo much more than the other two.

That evo would make me happy.  Hell, I still want DarkWaltz's Psychic/Fire kitty!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 12, 2010, 06:40:17 AM
Have some rumors.

- There will be 157 new Pokemon, bringing the total amount to 650.

- Like how Giratina compliments Dialga and Palkia, a large, green cobra will accompany Reshiram and Zekrom.

- Tauros will have an evolution: Minotauros. It stands on two legs.

- In previous games, either through moves or through abilities, players were able to alter the weather conditions of the battle field to boost certain types. For example, Groudon's Drought summons sunlight, which boosts Fire-type moves by 50%. In Black and White, players will be able to collect certain items that alter the weather conditions of the battle field. Approximately twenty of these items will affect the weather conditions so that they will boost certain types (kind of like Stadium cards in the TCG?), with some types getting added bonuses depending on the item. As a side note, in today's CoroCoro scans, there was a screenshot showing a new weather indicator (we overlooked it), which could give credence to this claim.

- One example will be setting up a Poison Field, which causes all Poison-type attacks to gain 30% accuracy, Sludge Bomb to have a 100% poison rate, and the effects of Toxic Spikes' poison to have an immediate effect.

- Black and white, good versus evil, and yin and yang are going to play a major part in the plot. However, unlike previous Pokemon games, the decisions and choices you make will "influence" the plot of the game. If you make "good" choices, you might get certain help or items, whereas "bad" choices could have negative effects. The point is that the plot will not be as cut-and-dry as previous games, changing depending on the player's actions.

- Tsutaaja, Pokabu, and Mijumaru had rough designs over this past year or so, but in the last few months received major overhauls, becoming the final designs we see today.

All from PokeBeach (http://pokebeach.com/2010/06/possible-black-and-white-spoilers-unconfirmed).

Also, this (http://pokebeach.com/2010/06/munma-referenced-in-first-generation-games).
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 12, 2010, 06:45:49 AM
- Tauros will have an evolution: Minotauros. It stands on two legs.

Annnnnnnnnnd this will be trained and leveled up to 100 INSTANTLY!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 12, 2010, 06:51:38 AM
Yeah it does as well.  But I've been wanting a Dragon/Fire for the longest time now.

That evo would make me happy.  Hell, I still want DarkWaltz's Psychic/Fire kitty!
Well according to the type chart both pokemon have exactly 3 2x weaknesses.  The fire dragon has three .5 resistants and two .25 resistants while the electric dragon has five .5 resistants and one .25 resistant.  judging by these results and designs the fire dragon will be faster and probably a special attacker while the electric dragon will be more on defense.

And I still claim that the grass starter will be a smug croc or gator.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 12, 2010, 06:54:19 AM
Well I always start with fire, so we shall see.  Good thing I love my Pokabu!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 12, 2010, 06:55:11 AM
Yeah I can be a bit iffy on grass types anyway.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 12, 2010, 07:03:26 AM
If those rumours are true... Minotauros will be awesome.
And more "weather" effects... Poison field adding 30% accuracy to Poison moves... Oh god Gunk Shot. D:

Lastly...
Also, this (http://pokebeach.com/2010/06/munma-referenced-in-first-generation-games).
This. Is. Brilliant. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on June 12, 2010, 07:04:37 AM
And I still claim that the grass starter will be a smug croc or gator.

But it's a snake...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 12, 2010, 07:07:27 AM
But it's a snake...
Snakes don't have legs. The closest thing it could be besides a croc or gator is a skink.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skink
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 12, 2010, 07:11:08 AM
Even so, it is labeled as the Grass Snake Pokemon... *shrug*
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 12, 2010, 07:13:04 AM
...Okay they really skipped zoology class, snakes can't have legs.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on June 12, 2010, 07:15:26 AM
@Wily: Exactly, honestly, I'm sure that as it evolves it will lose its limbs, and in an interesting twist they should make his final evo a grass/flying and have him as some sort of quetzalcoatl.

Posted on: June 12, 2010, 12:14:07 AM
...Okay they really skipped zoology class, snakes can't have legs.

Actually a quick google search reveals that they can, or at least, could.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 12, 2010, 07:17:46 AM
Exactly, honestly, I'm sure that as it evolves it will lose its limbs, and in an interesting twist they should make his final evo a grass/flying and have him as some sort of quetzalcoatl.
Hmm maybe but I always thought a quetzacoatl would be electric flying...maybe it's only because of Final Fantasy 8 and quezacolt that I'm thinking this.  Also thanks to the DBZ abrigded series I now think it kinda reminds me of Yoshi...I don't know why.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 12, 2010, 07:20:11 AM
@Wily: Exactly, honestly, I'm sure that as it evolves it will lose its limbs, and in an interesting twist they should make his final evo a grass/flying and have him as some sort of quetzalcoatl.
But that could mean he's 4x weak against Ice-types! D:
...
...
...
What a fitting end. bVd
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 12, 2010, 07:21:35 AM
Maybe Smugleaf will be a Chupacabra?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 12, 2010, 07:22:37 AM
If that's true then if there are any goat pokemon they should run for their lives.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 12, 2010, 07:24:59 AM
The Mareep line is close enough as sheep. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on June 12, 2010, 07:27:17 AM
Maybe Smugleaf will be a Chupacabra?

Quick! Anyone with Mareeps/Flaafies/Ampharos hide them quickly! D:

...and Arceus too, it looks close enough.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 12, 2010, 07:32:24 AM
He's the true god, he can fend for himself.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 12, 2010, 09:04:30 PM
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4576/0609101729a.jpg)

Look what they're selling at Nintendo World!  8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on June 12, 2010, 09:08:11 PM
O^O Purity-nyan~! <3

Are they still selling them? How much? >oo<
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 12, 2010, 09:09:11 PM
They just started selling them, so they have plenty.  I think they were like $5-$10.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on June 13, 2010, 01:14:04 AM
Snakes don't have legs. The closest thing it could be besides a croc or gator is a skink.

(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9452/99bda40e435f5348fd7bb37.png)

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9452/99bda40e435f5348fd7bb37.png
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 13, 2010, 01:50:45 AM
Copy-pastin' :v

Pokemon Sunday just finished airing - they did not reveal anything we do not already know, as expected after the CoroCoro leak yesterday. They merely showed silhouettes of a few of the Pokemon, which they will reveal in full next week. This probably means next week's episode won't have anything new either.

Also, we revisted the CoroCoro scans and we need to make a few corrections as well as add some info we overlooked:

Zorua and Zoroark are event-exclusive Pokemon. They do not appear during normal gameplay, at least in Black and White. Therefore, you can only get the two if you preorder a ticket to The Ruler of Illusions: Zoroark and trade over one of the shiny Legendary Beasts (to encounter Zoroark) and if you download the movie Celebi from the theaters and trade it over (to get Zorua).

Zekrom's ability is named "Teravoltage," not "Terra Voltage." "Tera" is a prefix that means one trillion, which I guess means it can generate a great deal of electricity with its tail generator (a trillion volts?).

There is a new indicator that shows you the status of the weather, such as if it's raining.

Zoroark knows a new attack called "Night Burst," which lowers the opponent's accuracy. The event Zoroark you obtain will know Fury Swipes, Faint Attack, and Scary Face as well.

Zorua has Leer, Scratch, Pursuit, and Fake Tears.

The new ability of Meguroko, the Desert Crocodile Pokemon, should be translated as "Overconfidence" rather than "Earthquake Spiral." The ability increases its attack when it Knocks Out a Pokemon.


Source (http://pokebeach.com/2010/06/pokemon-sunday-airs-silhouettes-of-yesterdays-pokemon-more-corocoro-info)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 13, 2010, 01:52:56 AM
Zekrom's ability is named "Teravoltage," not "Terra Voltage." "Tera" is a prefix that means one trillion, which I guess means it can generate a great deal of electricity with its tail generator (a trillion volts?).

This only goes to prove my Outlaw Star engine tail theory!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on June 13, 2010, 04:18:02 AM
Zorua and Zoroark are event-exclusive Pokemon. They do not appear during normal gameplay, at least in Black and White. Therefore, you can only get the two if you preorder a ticket to The Ruler of Illusions: Zoroark and trade over one of the shiny Legendary Beasts (to encounter Zoroark) and if you download the movie Celebi from the theaters and trade it over (to get Zorua).
BULLSHIT
I'll have to wait for version Gray, then.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 13, 2010, 04:47:28 AM
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4576/0609101729a.jpg)

Look what they're selling at Nintendo World!  8D
... PLUSHIES D:
ME WANT

And confirmation that Zekrom is truly Dragon/Electric.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on June 13, 2010, 11:44:52 AM
What's that about "only"? I think there will be Pokemon generator cheats in no time flat.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on June 13, 2010, 03:33:55 PM
Given that these are DS and not 3DS games?  Most certainly.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on June 14, 2010, 01:08:08 AM
Problem Solved...

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/1276467381819.png)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 14, 2010, 01:23:33 AM
Problem Solved...

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/1276467381819.png)

Hahaha, this will be my favorite generation!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 14, 2010, 01:24:41 AM
A Mario Mario and Luigi Mario cameo in the Brooklyn area, and this would be the greatest Pokémon game of all time.

...all time.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dexter Dexter on June 14, 2010, 01:26:58 AM
Problem Solved...

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/1276467381819.png)
CAN'T UNSEE...
Anyhow, I like the map and all, but why is Queens a mountain range? (It's where the text is overlapping the mountains on the right.)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 14, 2010, 01:28:34 AM
A Mario Mario and Luigi Mario cameo in the Brooklyn area, and this would be the greatest Pokémon game of all time.

...all time.

ALL. TIME.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 14, 2010, 02:12:29 AM
ALL. TIME.

(http://photo.parismatch.com/media/photos2/2.-photos-people/musique/mtv-video-music-awards-2009-les-photos/kw1/946946-24-fre-FR/2-photos-people-musique-mtv-video-music-awards-2009-les-photos-KW1-Kanye-West_galleryphoto_paysage_std.jpg)

"ALL TIME. Sorry, Gen 2."
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 14, 2010, 08:26:35 AM
Problem Solved...

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/1276467381819.png)
Proves the far away from the previous regions part. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gary Loaki on June 14, 2010, 07:28:57 PM
Zekrom confirmed as Black Yin Pokemon, while Reshiram is the White Yang Pokemon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 14, 2010, 07:31:31 PM
Yin and Yang ehh... Nice.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 15, 2010, 08:17:49 AM
Quote from: PokeBeach
he official Japanese Pokemon website has updated with clearer screenshots and artwork of the Black and White content from the leaked CoroCoro magazine scans. You can click all of the images below to enlarge them, excluding the last few screenshots. The Pokemon art below is transparent.

The major piece of information revealed on the website is the purpose of uploading your Black and White save file to the Internet, which CoroCoro mentioned but did not elaborate on. Once the games are released, there will be a special website that will allow you to upload your save file so that you can play Black and White on the Internet. Once you're done, you can send the save file back to your DS to continue playing. Whether this will allow you to play the games in full, whether there will be limitations, or if it's just for extended content remains to be seen. We'll bring you more as soon as we find out!

Source (http://pokebeach.com/2010/06/play-black-and-white-on-the-internet-clear-screenshots-artwork)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 15, 2010, 08:20:20 AM
Your save file... Playing on the Internet...
Mind-blowing. D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on June 15, 2010, 08:21:56 AM
What I want them to leak is the gym leaders.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 15, 2010, 08:29:10 AM
Heh, imagine if that allowed for online battles via the Internet!  XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 15, 2010, 08:36:38 AM
If that's true... I can finally battle with you all!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 17, 2010, 05:27:40 PM
Source: Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)

The following is the latest news about the C Gear, as well as the transfer method of Pokemon from 4th gen to 5th gen.
Quote from: Serebii
Hidden away within CoroCoro's page about Celebi & Zorua in Black & White, there is a screenshot that gives some minor details about the transfer method. In the games, there is a machine called the Pok駑on Transfer Machine (転送マシンでポケモン). The screenshot simply states that Celebi is being transferred through the Pok駑on Transfer Machine. This appears to be the method of transferring the Pok駑on from your 4th Generation games to your 5th Generation ones. This is to be done over the standard local wireless and appears to be one at a time. It is necessary to send Celebi & the shiny beasts obtained from the 13th movie over to Black & White to obtain Zorua & Zoroark. It is currently unknown if there are any limits to the Pok駑on Transfer Machine similar to the original Pal Park restrictions in Diamond & Pearl.

The official site also elaborates into the C Gear. It also shows on the menu and in the C-Gear that there are three methods of communication; Wireless, WiFi and IR (InfraRed) and you can use the C Gear with all three. These options are shown in the battle menu so it'll be able to tell when you're battling in any of those. These options are running while you're in actual gameplay as opposed to in a Union Room. To what extent, is not yet known.


Posted on: June 16, 2010, 17:31:24
Also, some flavour text (could become PokeDex entries) for the BW legendaries.
Quote from: Water Pokemon Master
Reshiram - It blows flames that completely burn its surroundings. It is said that its heat moves Earth's atmosphere.
Zekrom - It has been passed down that it creates electricity using the generator in its body, flying around the skies of the Isshu region and hiding itself in thunderclouds.
Therefore, Zekrom - Dragon/Electric, Reshiram - Dragon/Fire.

Source: Pokebeach (http://pokebeach.com/2010/06/pokedex-entries-for-reshiram-and-zekrom)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 18, 2010, 01:30:45 AM
We already knew their types, but this makes it completely official. Nice find. ^_^
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on June 18, 2010, 03:40:20 AM
Therefore, Zekrom - Dragon/Electric, Reshiram - Dragon/Fire.
Likely, but not certain.  Recall, Lugia uses water powers, yet is Flying/Psychic.  Groudon uses fire/solar powers, yet is Ground.

I sure would like those type combinations, though. 8)  Could stand to Levitate since Ground is already a major staple in offense, but I guess that'd be asking too much.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 18, 2010, 06:34:38 AM
Several sites have already reported their typing as that though... Not to mention the leak I mentioned earlier in the thread regarding Zekrom's typing.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 18, 2010, 07:25:01 AM
Likely, but not certain.  Recall, Lugia uses water powers, yet is Flying/Psychic.  Groudon uses fire/solar powers, yet is Ground.
But Groudon was obvious from his name. XD
Lugia... I'll give you that.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Deadpool on June 18, 2010, 08:30:49 PM
 I am going to be surfing the internet when the new movie comes to theaters in japan, so i can find a working code for the Celebi that gets you Zorua and codes for the Shiny Movie Event Beasts to get Zoroark, so i can get them for My Gen 5 Team when Black & White comes to america.

I think Zoroark is the Coolest Dark type ever now. 
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on June 20, 2010, 02:57:20 AM
Aww, look at the cute animations and attacks! x3

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8ZGtVqGf7c[/youtube]

Thanks Akira for this. ^^o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8ZGtVqGf7c)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 20, 2010, 03:00:07 AM
Aww, look at the cute animations and attacks! x3

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8ZGtVqGf7c[/youtube]

Thanks Akira for this. ^^o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8ZGtVqGf7c)
THEY MOOOOOOOOVE? =O
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on June 20, 2010, 03:04:58 AM
This is TEH SEX
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 20, 2010, 03:07:31 AM
It's about time; this is soooo much better than what we've had in the past! ^_^
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 20, 2010, 03:14:04 AM
You know, with the 3DS's camera and online system, how awesome would it be if you had a screen like in the video, where while the action's going on, you could see your friend yelling at the 'mon in the smaller left screens!  XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 20, 2010, 03:21:25 AM
Maybe with Gray.

That's what I'm calling the forthcoming third title.

I'm also calling the inevitable R/S remakes LandRuby and SeaEmerald.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on June 20, 2010, 03:47:08 AM
I wonder if anyone at Gamefreak wants to bitchslap whoever's decision it was to make 5th Gen Pokemon a DS title as opposed to 3DS?  Unless they were afraid of killing 6-year-old eyes (http://kotaku.com/5566671/nintendo-testing-healthiness-of-3ds-advising-young-children-to-avoid-3d), or something, which is reasonable for a Pokemon game I guess.  Still, it's very hard for me to get excited over a DS Pokemon game in the wake of HG/SS that doesn't even let your 'mans follow you outside.

Maybe with Gray.

That's what I'm calling the forthcoming third title.
Hm, if they're willing to do DSi, maybe.  I don't think there will be such a thing as a DS/3DS dual mode cartridge, due to the difference in screen resolution.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Blaze Yeager on June 20, 2010, 04:36:18 AM
Man,i think White's obviously going to be the Best one...but I think i'll perfer Black Until Further Details Show up...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 20, 2010, 09:01:45 AM
Aww, look at the cute animations and attacks! x3

Thanks Akira for this. ^^o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8ZGtVqGf7c)
Darnit, it's been taken down. ;_;
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 20, 2010, 09:06:03 AM
Aww, look at the cute animations and attacks! x3

Thanks Akira for this. ^^o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8ZGtVqGf7c)
Darnit, it's been taken down. ;_;

Indeed it has.

Here, let me fix that.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJff5ZhrGJw[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 20, 2010, 09:06:49 AM
They have idle animations, Wily. Also, it zooms back for the trainer to throw the Pokémon into battle, and some attacks will zoom in on the opponent for attacks. It was awesome.

CURSE YOU KLAVIER! I WAS SUMMARIZING AND YOU FOUND THE VIDEO!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 24, 2010, 01:55:29 PM
THANKS KLAVIER <3

My thoughts:
Animations are very nice, the idling animations are cute. :3
Night Burst... Looks just like Dark Pulse... B(
Wild Bolt... It's like a more accessible Volt Tackle. B(
Gear... <3

Posted on: June 20, 2010, 15:17:13
Source: Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)

Quote from: Serebii
With the new downloads of the beasts; Entei, Raikou & Suicune in Japan to tie in with the upcoming movie, further details have been revealed about the in-game Zoroark event. As we stated last month, when you bring the beasts to Black & White through the Transfer Machine, you will get access to Zoroark in an as-of-yet undisclosed location in Isshu. This battle with Zoroark has you first face against an Illusion of one of the beasts. Previously, we didn't know what causes Zoroark to change form, but a pamphlet with the download has since confirmed it.
If you send over Raikou, Zoroark will appear as Entei.
If you send over Entei, Zoroark will appear as Suicune.
If you send over Suicune, Zoroark will appear as Raikou.
It is still not currently known how Zoroark's Illusion ability will work outside of this special event. The pamphlet also further confirmed the fact that Zorua & Zoroark can only be obtained through these special events. We'll bring more as it comes.

GRRRRRRRRRRR at the bolded part. :W

Posted on: June 20, 2010, 23:23:52
Again from Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml).
Quote from: Serebii
The latest issue of Nintendo Dream has provided new insights into the special Illusion ability that Zoroark & Zorua both have. This ability, as we knew previously, allows for Zorua/Zoroark to be transformed into another Pokemon when sent into battle, as seen with the special event when you capture Zoroark. However, prior to now, the details of the ability were not known. We now know the details of this ability. The ability allows for Zorua & Zoroark to be in the form of the Pokemon in second place in your party at the time of it being sent out. This means that if you have say Jigglypuff in the front of your party, Zorua & Zoroark would appear in battle as a Jigglypuff. As we know from before, it keeps its Dark-type, but its appearance and name will match the Pokemon of which it has an Illusion.

Also, big Isshu region pic.
(http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/463/isshubig.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 24, 2010, 02:02:44 PM
Man, a good portion of Queens & Brooklyn is in the damn Ice Age!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on June 24, 2010, 04:14:14 PM
Man, a good portion of Queens & Brooklyn is in the damn Ice Age!
At least Brooklyn isn't MOUNTAINS

Also, that pic is further proof that no one cares for Staten Island.  8D 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 24, 2010, 04:17:21 PM
Most of Queens has forest though!  That's good!  XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 24, 2010, 08:20:50 PM
So now we have to go through not one but 2 snowy mountains?  Oh I hated going though the snowy mountain in Pearl.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 24, 2010, 08:32:51 PM
Man, a good portion of Queens & Brooklyn is in the damn Ice Age!
Hyperbole or realism? 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on June 24, 2010, 08:34:17 PM
Hyperbole or realism? 8D

It really does look like a map of NYC!  XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on June 25, 2010, 10:42:45 PM
That it is old but was the clear music.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVCvDrtVg3c[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvMautomY7o[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on June 27, 2010, 02:09:10 AM
2010.09.18 (September 18)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJRNDOTIEtw[/youtube]



Quote from: Klavier Gavin (To make sure it doesn't get deleted)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftrnk0J8zHM[/youtube]

Pokemon Sunday revealed some new stuff today, such as a gym leader, two new characters, one seen in what appears to be the game's intro, and another, which I am assuming is the rival character until official info on said characters are released, as well as the release date, September 18th.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 27, 2010, 02:09:37 AM
Pokemon Sunday revealed some new stuff today, such as a gym leader, two new characters, one seen in what appears to be the game's intro, and another, which I am assuming is the rival character until official info on said characters are released, as well as the release date, September 18th.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftrnk0J8zHM[/youtube]

Edit: curse you, Vixy! D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Deadpool on June 27, 2010, 02:13:27 AM
 i wonder if they put Double Battle in Black and White?,

I have not seen any pics or videos with double battle.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on June 27, 2010, 02:18:49 AM
Here are some images of Pokemon Black & White

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cri6ESRwjKQ[/youtube]

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Update, Videos with clear sound and image ^^

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw4yZKFNZVs[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyxYLvr2gsg[/youtube]

Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 27, 2010, 05:58:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftrnk0J8zHM
Pocket Monster... Awaken.
This line totally intrigued me.
I wonder if it has anything to do with the game plot (or I'm just overthinking this... -_-)...

Posted on: June 27, 2010, 21:42:33
Again from Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml).
Also, big Isshu region pic.
(http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/463/isshubig.jpg)
Ok, using this pic as reference... (1 is at the extreme top left of the pic, above the area marked 5)
Quote from: Water Pokemon Master
Thirteen mysteries from the full map of the Isshu Region!

The new adventure is to take place in the Isshu Region. Here is the announcement of the full map!! It is not an independent island like Hoenn or Sinnoh, but it is thought to be a part of a continent somewhere. There are places here and there with clouds covering them; it appears that there are further mysteries hidden below the clouds. The details of the map are completely unknown, but let's check some points of interest based on the thus-far revealed screen shots.

1) A blast furnace? There is something like melted iron.
A building with the unique shape of a bee's nest. It looks like there is a lava-like material here and there... Also, if you look at the full map, there is a place where you can see what appears to be something like red lava! It's man-made, so maybe it's a type of blast furnace for melting iron.

2) A town at the mouth of a river with a drawbridge.
There are many bridges around the Isshu Region which is abundant with rivers. The red drawbridge in the picture also stands out pretty well on the map. At the base of the bridge is something that resembles a crane and also a lighthouse, so this place could be a port city.

3) A theme park-type facility.
There is a facility that looks to be a theme park with a Ferris Wheel?

4) A sand storm raging in a desert?
A place like a desert with blowing sand. It's hard to see far due to the sand, but there appear to be trainers here and there. If you look a little below center of the map, there is a vast desert. Maybe this could be it. There appears to be a ghost town buried in sand on the map, could this also be a place in the adventure!?

5) An airfield?
There is a runway on the left side of the map!? Could it be an airfield? Maybe you can get on an airplane and enjoy an adventure in the sky. Also, directly above that is a building that looks like a tower. The tower has a spiral staircase and gives off an old-fashioned feeling.

6) Two windmills?
Around where the land looks like a staircase, there are two buildings with the same shape. If you look good at them, there are propeller-like things attached to them making them like windmills. A very relaxed scenery, could they be generating power?

7) Two-tone color town.
A little above the center of the map is a little strange place. Looking at it, the two-tone color town is separated into left as brown and right as light blue. You can also see a big majestic building in the center... What could this place be?

8 ) Ancient ruins?! There is a building that could be some ancient ruins on the place that looks like a rock mountain at the farthest top of the center of the map. On the staircase shaped rock mountain you can see several cave-like holes. Maybe the inside is a complicated maze.

9) What's in the center?
There is a lake at the center of the map with a big island at the center of it. If you look really closely you can see that the outsides of this island is jagged and looks like it's man-made. At the center we can see something in the shape of a spiral, but what could it be...? It's a place full of mysteries.

10) An abandoned factory?
It's hard to see it on the map, but if you look reaaally closely you can see that the walls and ceilings are broken. Last month there was a picture of an abandoned factory that was revealed, could this be it? What sort of Pokemon could be here?

11) The beginning town?
The small town that can be seen in the bottom right of the map. It's as if we've seen this blue roof and the road going around it somewhere before... That's right, it was one of the game pictures during the first announcement! Let's predict that this is the starting point of the adventure and the house with the blue roof is the main character's house!!

12) Sky Arrow Bridge?
"Sky Arrow Bridge" is no doubt the giant bridge that stretches to the city thought to be Hiun City. It seems like this picture is looking towards Hiun City from the eastern opposite bank.

13) The giant city, Hiun City
Hiun City is lined with skyscrapers. Even when looking at the full map, the city's grand appearance stands out. However, directly above this giant city is a ghost town and a vast desert. The contrast is quite interesting.

Also, a new video (http://pokebeach.com/2010/06/new-black-and-white-footage-on-movie-13-trailer-on-advertisement-dvd) is included in a DVD promoting the Zoroark movie.

Source for the Isshu info: Pokebeach.com (http://pokebeach.com/2010/06/black-and-white-details-in-nintendo-dream-magazine-illusion-ability-details)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on June 27, 2010, 05:59:19 PM
Have anyone posted this?

http://i45.tinypic.com/33o4e91.jpg

Is that some new pokemon there? including wooter and smugleaf evo?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 27, 2010, 06:01:46 PM
Where did you find that? o:
And it has Ash in Isshu clothes already. >.>;
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on June 27, 2010, 06:03:16 PM
Where did you find that? o:

Internets. x3 It was posted out in the open. ^^;

I like the girl's outfit and hair. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on June 27, 2010, 06:04:14 PM
From Apforum, pokemon thread. I'm not sure if this one is real though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 27, 2010, 06:05:39 PM
Internets. x3 It was posted out in the open. ^^;
LIESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS XD

Anyways, for now, it's gonna be a rumour pic.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on June 27, 2010, 10:07:15 PM
Internets. x3 It was posted out in the open. ^^;

I like the girl's outfit and hair. XD

Well, this is definately expected; for the next couple of seasons we'll never see Dawn (and maybe Brock for SURE this time, and like that's happened before, we might see May as a quick cameo during the leauge saga, like they did previously with Misty) again.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on June 27, 2010, 11:13:33 PM
Other short video...

Rip title music:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy3CI2BDRyA[/youtube]

Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on June 28, 2010, 12:59:48 AM
3 vs 3 battles are confirmed to be in the game now. >U<

http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

Quote
Japanese variety show Oha Suta has shown a new trailer for Pokémon Black & White which showed a video containing a lot of new Pokémon. We'll provide pictures shortly. First we have Ononokusu (オノノクス , then Doryuuzu (ドリュウズ), then Desukan (デスカーン), Mokuryu (モクリュー) and finally Denchura (デンチュラ ). It also revealed a Grass-type attack called Grass Mixer (グラスミキサー) and one called Drill Liner (ドリルライナー). It also confirms that there are now Three on Three battles. I will have clear pictures as soon as possible.
Edit @ 23:42; Clearer pictures added thanks to 2ch

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonblackandwhite/ohasuta.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonblackandwhite/ohasuta2.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonblackandwhite/triplebattle.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on June 28, 2010, 01:15:54 AM
Flying/Levitating Earthquakers are going to cause a lot of pain if that's true...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on June 28, 2010, 01:34:16 AM
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/pokemonblackandwhite/triplebattle.jpg)

So 3v3 confirmed? Daaaaaaaaaaamn.

EDIT:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVue5B-BKdQ[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on June 28, 2010, 01:39:09 AM
So 3v3 confirmed? Daaaaaaaaaaamn.

Gonna be tight with moves that hit the entire feild (Surf comes to mind). These pokemon look badass, I am SO getting that Ononokusu, but don't get me wrong, does Shooter can trigger 3-on-3 battles?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on June 28, 2010, 01:44:06 AM
Pharaoh Man.Exe !!! Pokemon Version, lol
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on June 28, 2010, 01:51:47 AM
When the trainer walks through the mysterious wall thing and change appearance, they enter "White's High Link" (ホワイトのハイリンク). o.o;
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on June 28, 2010, 02:05:29 AM
3 vs 3 battles

FFFFFFFFFUU

[parasitic bomb]'s gonna get intense. :v
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Blaze Yeager on June 28, 2010, 02:06:54 AM
Man that Four-Legged crystal monster looks badass...and i saw Pharoah Man
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on June 28, 2010, 02:08:41 AM
More from the Sere of Bii's~

Quote
Pokémon Black & White - Oha Suta Reveal

Japanese variety show Oha Suta has shown a new trailer for Pokémon Black & White which showed a video containing a lot of new Pokémon. We'll provide pictures shortly.
First we have Ononokusu (オノノクス), the mantis like Pokémon
Next is Doryuuzu (ドリュウズ) a mole with a giant claw on its tail
Next is Desukan (デスカーン), the sarcophagus-esque Pokémon with ghostly arms
Then Denchura (デンチュラ )is shown, which appears to be a Tarantula
Finally is Moguryu (モグリュー), the baby mole Pokémon seen in the below screenshot.

It appears that Doryuuzu may be Moguryu's evolution. It also revealed a Grass-type attack called Grass Mixer (グラスミキサー) and one called Drill Liner (ドリルライナー). We also know of a new are called White High-Link (ホワイトのハイリンク) which has your trainer transform into what may be a multiplayer avatar and the link up with the internet we mentioned earlier this month is called the Pokémon Global Link. Its functions are still unknown

It also confirms that there are now Three on Three battles. There is also a brand new option in the battle menu in what appeared to be a trainer battle. Along with Fight, Run & Pokémon and Shooter. It is unknown what Shooter is for or what use it has. These Pokémon have been added to the new Pokémon section with the little details we know.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 28, 2010, 02:11:34 AM
3 vs 3 battles
Seriously how is something like that possible, think about the pokemon who will suffer from earthquakes! *shot*
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Blaze Yeager on June 28, 2010, 02:12:44 AM
It looks like B&W are going to be two bad-ass games,one that changes pokemon all together
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 28, 2010, 02:18:27 AM
FFFFFFFFFUU

[parasitic bomb]'s gonna get intense. :v
Hell yeah. Man, this is probably gonna be the first Pokémon game I get into since the original Silver.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on June 28, 2010, 03:28:43 AM
Liking the new Pokes. They don't seem to be well-received elsewhere, however.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on June 28, 2010, 10:30:18 AM
New Pokemons. o:
Have to admit, those designs look pretty outlandish this time. o:
Need moar :W
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on June 28, 2010, 10:36:20 AM
lol 3 vs 3? and possibly in real time? craziness in the making there.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Deadpool on June 28, 2010, 06:19:41 PM
as long, 3 vs 3 does not lag the game, i am okay with it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: HokutoNoBen on June 28, 2010, 09:23:53 PM
3v3 means that PKMN has FINALLY become a 16-bit era RPG. I'm so proud~! 8D

Now, hopefully that just means that they'll actually implement it more. 2v2 is still horridly underused, after all...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 28, 2010, 09:53:31 PM
What I find annoying is all the people bitching about THEY SHOULD TAKE THE HMS OUT AND MAKE IT AN ITEM! BAWWWW!!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 28, 2010, 10:04:57 PM
3v3 means that PKMN has FINALLY become a 16-bit era RPG. I'm so proud~! 8D

Now, hopefully that just means that they'll actually implement it more. 2v2 is still horridly underused, after all...
I hope it is underused. As much as I liked certain 2v2 battles, the POINT of the game is to make trainer versus trainer battles. And going over your list of single Pokémon works better in the regular battles. 2v2 and 3v3 are supposed to be all going-out-epic. So they fit in well in certain moments, just not all the time.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dexter Dexter on June 28, 2010, 10:08:44 PM
3-on-3 battles? You have officially piqued my interest. Keep talking.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 28, 2010, 10:13:43 PM
2v2 and 3v3 are supposed to be all going-out-epic. So they fit in well in certain moments, just not all the time.
Like when you team up with Steven at the Space Tower in Mossdeep in Emerald. Now THAT was an epic battle.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: HokutoNoBen on June 28, 2010, 11:29:13 PM
I hope it is underused. As much as I liked certain 2v2 battles, the POINT of the game is to make trainer versus trainer battles. And going over your list of single Pokémon works better in the regular battles. 2v2 and 3v3 are supposed to be all going-out-epic. So they fit in well in certain moments, just not all the time.

To me, emphasizing on the team aspect more would be along the lines of the kind of evolution the series needs. If they're not going to do anything to rock the boat about the "Eugenics Experiment" that is EV training, or even the basic "Rock-Paper-Scissors" dynamic, then at least focus on other aspects of the game engine that would force a change-up in the meta game all the same.

Besides, if they're not going to do anything truly compelling with it, then it's just a throw-away gimmick that they shouldn't have even bothered with. Battling is the focus of this series, and it's all that's there after you tear through the storyline especially. 

 
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on June 29, 2010, 12:00:00 AM
To me, emphasizing on the team aspect more would be along the lines of the kind of evolution the series needs. If they're not going to do anything to rock the boat about the "Eugenics Experiment" that is EV training, or even the basic "Rock-Paper-Scissors" dynamic, then at least focus on other aspects of the game engine that would force a change-up in the meta game all the same.

Besides, if they're not going to do anything truly compelling with it, then it's just a throw-away gimmick that they shouldn't have even bothered with. Battling is the focus of this series, and it's all that's there after you tear through the storyline especially.
But the evolution towards constant team battles doesn't do anything but add more elements to a single battle instead of changing them. Evolution shouldn't be just about adding things, it should be about changing them so the overall system can work better. 2v2 or 3v3 battles should work really well in a larger, more epic context, of bigger battles. So you can actually feel the difference of complexity between battles instead of just fighting stronger opponents. Something like making Gym Leader battles like that would work well. What wouldn't work, would be to simply add more elements, more stuff, more weaknesses that you have to watch for at the same time. Because making that part of the constant gameplay you have to endure would ruin the simplicity Pokémon was based in its original concept. They should keep the simple battles most of the time, but perhaps think of a different gameplay system. Mix in other turn-based elements, maybe.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on June 30, 2010, 11:58:45 PM
I kinda liked the GCN games for the fact that all Trainer battles were 2v2.  It was always my preferred format, introducing new strategies and bringing an overall faster pace.

I don't really see how 3v3 is going to work unless they introduce some mode-specific battle mechanics.  From a simple logic standpoint, once 2v2 has established how attacks behave with allies and multiple targets, 3v3 would only serve to weaken the single-target attacks that make up the majority of the game's arsenal.  So for that reason I am hoping that 3v3 will create its own unique mechanics rather than behaving as an expansion of the existing ones.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 01, 2010, 03:55:17 PM
Have anyone posted this?

http://i45.tinypic.com/33o4e91.jpg

Is that some new pokemon there? including wooter and smugleaf evo?
Hey borock?
Looks like this rumour pic of yours might be the truth after all, introducing 4 new Pokemon, which includes Smugleaf's and Wotter's evos.
This is due to a preview of the coming B&W arc in the anime, which showed a silhouette of a female trainer, that matches the girl in the pic.
Oh, and the girl's name is Iris. :P
Source: Pokebeach.com (http://pokebeach.com/2010/07/preview-of-black-and-white-anime-new-pokemon-revealed)

Also, a short read as to why Pokemon designs differ so much through the different generations:
Quote from: Water Pokemon Master
There's a team of people (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Staff_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_Red_and_Green) that is in charge of monster design. They're listed under "Pokemon Design." They come up with the ideas. They decide which ones are the best and refine them. Then, Ken Sugimori draws those designs. In the first generation, it was a group of four people (Sugimori being one of them), and Satoshi Tajiri's role (the creator of Pokemon) in creating the monsters was basically to approve them and suggest changes after the basic ideas were being designed. He's the only one under "Director" and "Game Design" for the first generation which means that he was in charge of pulling everything together and the overall experience of playing the game.

Nowadays... well, the truth is that in Ruby and Sapphire, Junichi Masuda took over. Ever since R/S/E, Satoshi Tajiri has not been working on the games at all. He's listed as "Executive Director" in most games. What does this mean? "Executive Director" is a fancy way of saying "this is the original creator, he approved this game but was not an active part of development." Occasionally he's listed as an "Executive Producer," which, from what I can gather, means he funded it but was still not an active member in developing it. Finally, in Pokemon Rumble (surprisingly enough), only Sugimori and Masuda are listed in the credits as "advisers" for the spin-off game. Tajiri is not listed at all.

So, Satoshi Tajiri is not really putting his mind into the monsters anymore. However, there is another part of why the monsters look different. The "Pokemon Design" of D/P/Pt was held by thirteen people. Ten of these people did not work on the first generation's Pokemon; Shigeki Morimoto (he's the guy who put Mew into the game) also stopped doing monster design during D/P/Pt. What does this mean? The people coming up with the Pokemon ideas are, mostly, different people each generation. R/S hired a ton of people, and that's why the third generation's style was so different. Black and White has also hired more people.

Thus, the main reason why the Black and White Pokemon look weird is because the design team has new people on it. Also, Satoshi Tajiri hasn't worked on the games for a looooong time (since the Gold and Silver days), thus the reason why Gen III and Gen IV looked so different from Gen I and Gen II. And now Gen V could look very different as well.
Source: Pokebeach.com (http://pokebeach.com/2010/07/the-new-pokemon-dont-look-like-pokemon) as well.

DISCLAIMER: Although I did say the pic might be true, but... Still take it with a pinch of salt.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on July 01, 2010, 03:57:40 PM
So basically, the original creator has fled the series, and all monsters have looked like this for ages.

...Kinda figured that.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on July 01, 2010, 09:24:47 PM
Her name is Iris?

Will Ash wonder what he's fighting for? ;)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on July 01, 2010, 09:27:20 PM
No, that would be the boy trainer. 8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on July 01, 2010, 09:34:38 PM
Oh, and the girl's name is Iris. :P

Like we need another one.  ::)

They decided not to go with the game lead this time around; just as expected. Ib4 "what am I fighting fooarrrghh". But the smugleaf evo, it's inevitable, I'm starting out with that guy.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on July 01, 2010, 09:37:35 PM
You know who the male trainer reminds me of?
(http://www.court-records.net/arts/giantodo.png)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 01, 2010, 09:39:15 PM
Her name is Iris?

Will Ash wonder what he's fighting for? ;)

Get out of my thread.

You know who the male trainer reminds me of?
(http://www.court-records.net/arts/giantodo.png)

...lulz. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on July 01, 2010, 09:41:45 PM
You know what? [tornado fang] this. Nebula Grey needs to be Download Content for BW's next event 'mon if we are gonna have Iris! 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on July 01, 2010, 09:43:05 PM
Ib4 "what am I fighting fooarrrghh".
Her name is Iris?

Will Ash wonder what he's fighting for? ;)

Too late. :P
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on July 01, 2010, 09:43:58 PM
Too late. :P

You post too fast man, you post too fast.. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 02, 2010, 03:22:34 AM
Oh, and the girl's name is Iris. :P
Well, there goes my dragon-themed trainer naming trend, 'cuz I'm sure as hell not renaming Iris. >U<
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Blaze Yeager on July 02, 2010, 07:28:47 AM
Probably the first (Anime) series that derives from using the game's female character...at least i think
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on July 02, 2010, 07:37:20 AM
Well, there goes my dragon-themed trainer naming trend, 'cuz I'm sure as hell not renaming Iris. >U<
Does Hypershell know what he's fighting for?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 02, 2010, 08:58:31 AM
Well, there goes my dragon-themed trainer naming trend, 'cuz I'm sure as hell not renaming Iris. >U<
I was waiting for your comment. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 02, 2010, 03:17:53 PM
Probably the first (Anime) series that derives from using the game's female character...at least i think
Oh, THAT girl (that's what I get for skimming).  Eh...in that case, my Battle Revolution Iris is cuter anyway. 8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 02, 2010, 03:23:34 PM
Wait what?
Iris is in no way the female trainer of the game.

Wait.
What are we even talking about in the first place?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 02, 2010, 03:32:11 PM
Eh, who DOES know what we're fighting for these days?

I saw the anime character lineup elsewhere already.  Didn't catch any names, though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 02, 2010, 03:35:15 PM
Well, as I mentioned earlier, the pic borockman posted...
That girl in there, is Iris.
The female trainer from the games does not have a name yet.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 02, 2010, 04:15:10 PM
Well, as I mentioned earlier, the pic borockman posted...
That girl in there, is Iris.
I think you and I BOTH reversed each other's Irises. >w<

COG clarified that for me already.  And, as I said, my Battle Revolution Iris is cuter.  Than the anime girl.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 02, 2010, 04:21:58 PM
Probably the first (Anime) series that derives from using the game's female character...at least i think
Derives... I don't think that's the correct word to use... Hence the confusion... -_-
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 02, 2010, 04:26:13 PM
I think he meant "deviates".

It's a sad thing when I read mixups better than I do normal speech.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 02, 2010, 04:33:41 PM
Ah, deviates... That does make more sense.

And lol, no worries now. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Blaze Yeager on July 02, 2010, 11:39:19 PM
*Facepalms*

man you realize it was like 2am when i wrote that...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 04, 2010, 06:35:44 AM
No sweat, man, we've all been there.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 05, 2010, 08:14:57 AM
Quote
For a moment you can see a battle scene with a new Pokemon called Nezumimi (portmanteau of “mouse” and “ear”). By the way, is that Chinchilla Pokemon [Chiramii] a rodent or a cat? I wouldn’t say Nezumimi isn’t of the same evolutionary line… but then again I only saw it for one instant so I can’t say for sure. [In other words, he's saying the new Pokemon Nezumimi and the chincilla Pokemon Chiramii look similar, with Nezumimi possibly being a pre-evolution or evolution.] We also see Isshu’s Ferris Wheel.


[At the end of the movie, Reshiram and Zekrom are shown in the preview for next year's movie.] Reshiram’s tail spouts fire like a jet engine and it flaps its wings to fly. Of course, Fire-type. Zekrom’s tail is like Mobile Suit Gundam 00’s, what is it called, solar furnace? And the inside glows blue-white, like it is generating electricity inside its body. Of course, Electric-type. At the end of the trailer, an unnamed Pokemon is waving to us. It has big eyes and pointed ears. It kind of looked like this drawing I made [to the right]. I think a part of the ears were orange, but I forgot how the body looked.

[The blogger also mention that Black and White have a new "TV Telephone" feature where you can have a TV-phone conference with up to four people.]

From PokeBeach (http://pokebeach.com/2010/07/two-new-pokemon-in-zoroarks-movie-advertisements)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 05, 2010, 08:26:30 AM
You forgot the drawing:
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/1613/nezumimi.jpg)

So, after the Zoaroark movie... Comes perhaps Zekrom VS Reshiram...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 05, 2010, 08:33:07 AM
I'm guessing that might be another pokemon that won't come to the states unless you cheat.  Anyone want to bet on this?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 05, 2010, 07:56:55 PM
Nah... That would be too evil, even for them.

And well, the blogger did mention he could be a pre-evo/evo of Chiramii, so... *shrug*

Posted on: July 05, 2010, 14:41:36
There might be more Pokemon revealed in the coming days/weeks, and Bandai might be a source.
A few images of upcoming Pokemon figures have been leaked, but 2 are of interest.

(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3606/newpokes.jpg)

The one on the left resembles a pokemon in a pic that borock posted a while back:
Have anyone posted this?

http://i45.tinypic.com/33o4e91.jpg

Is that some new pokemon there? including wooter and smugleaf evo?

While the one on the right... Looks sort of like a broccoli.

Of course, these pics could be fake as well, so take it with a pinch of salt.

Source: Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 06, 2010, 03:55:36 AM
(http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/463/isshubig.jpg)

(http://i48.tinypic.com/bdwj6t.png)

8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 06, 2010, 03:57:36 AM
My god it almost looks perfect, that's scary.  By the way where exactly is that?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 06, 2010, 04:04:18 AM
By the way where exactly is that?

I believe it's Shanghai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai).
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on July 06, 2010, 04:15:01 AM
LOL, Ishuu is Shanghai  now?

Shanghai VS Manhattan

HEAVEN OR HELL!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 08, 2010, 08:11:34 PM
(http://i48.tinypic.com/bdwj6t.png)

8D
... CHINA!? *mind blown*

Posted on: July 06, 2010, 13:46:37
Ahem, calm yourself down DWII...

Anyways, here are some bigger pics of the Pokemon figures I posted earlier.
(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6250/animepokemon.jpg) (http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1797/greenpokemony.jpg)

Also, new footage of the game was shown on the variety show, Oha Suta, the same show that revealed PharaohMan.EXE earlier.
One screenhot is of interest.
(http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/7207/koromori.jpg)

It shows the back sprite of Koromori, a bat Pokemon.
This Pokemon was shown beside Jessie in this pic:
(http://i45.tinypic.com/33o4e91.jpg)

Source: Pokebeach.com (Pokemon figures (http://pokebeach.com/2010/07/toys-reveal-a-new-pokemon), Koromori (http://pokebeach.com/2010/07/koromori-confirmed-as-a-pokemon))

Posted on: July 06, 2010, 19:53:09
The official Daisuki Club website posted an image of some Pokemon drawn by Ken Sugimori, but it has since been removed.
(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7753/newpokemondaisukiclub.jpg)

It confirms one Pokemon that was shown as a figure, as well as in the beta art.

Source: Pokebeach.com (http://pokebeach.com/2010/07/real-artwork-of-anime-character-sheets-pokemon)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 08, 2010, 08:15:29 PM
Huh my brother was right that thing really does look like a Lavitar.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 08, 2010, 08:22:45 PM
Therefore I hope he has a kickass 2nd evo form like Tyranitar. -_-
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 08, 2010, 08:24:57 PM
Somehow I think it's going to be similar to a Swampert.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on July 08, 2010, 08:28:56 PM
Huh my brother was right that thing really does look like a Lavitar.

Yes!, Larvitar 2 XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 08, 2010, 08:35:33 PM
Somehow I think it's going to be similar to a Swampert.
Hmm...
Given those "tusks"...
A TYRANITAR/DONPHAN HYBRID
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 09, 2010, 08:21:11 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBk9yAtSQOU[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 09, 2010, 08:26:38 AM
At least we can finally see the true extent of the Illusion ability of Zorua and Zoroark, and the Zorua event.
And that Zoroark suit. D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 09, 2010, 08:39:16 AM
Huh that's pretty intresting, to bad it also proved that pokemon can't follow you around anymore.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 09, 2010, 01:19:58 PM
With the Pokemon Black and White game demo travelling around Japan, some new images from the game has been posted on 2ch.
In the demo, new Pokemon were revealed in the Pokedex, including starter evos.
There's a new Pokemon called Hatooboo, seen below.
(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3104/hatooboo.jpg)
If you ask me, looks like Mamepato's (the new pigeon) evo.

There were more... But it's too blur to make out.
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3606/newpokes.jpg)

Since CoroCoro will be out in a few days, perhaps they will be revealed then.

Soucre: Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 09, 2010, 05:42:15 PM
The screen on the right looks like a double battle between 2 Budews VS a Pokabu but the second pokemon wasn't out yet, the other looks like a room and they're using the new phone thingy whose name escapes me for the moment.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 10, 2010, 02:28:58 AM
Rumors.

Quote
- enter the world of your partner using the Wireless communication features
- features some kind of Tag Mode feature(s)
- those with a DSi can use a video phone-like feature with up to four people

http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=129831
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 10, 2010, 03:00:00 PM
A few more Pokemon names have been revealed, however, these names are not confirmed yet.
They are Rankurusu, the gothic-like Pokemon, Gochiruzeru, the green frog-like Pokemon, and Kibago, the Larvitar-like Pokemon.

And a two new Pokemon were revealed during advertisments of the Zoroark movie.
One is Minezumi, a beaver/chipmuck Pokemon, the other is the still unnamed Pokemon revealed as a drawing earlier in the thread.

Source: Pokebeach.com (Names (http://pokebeach.com/2010/07/black-and-white-demo-and-pamphlet-reveal-new-images-one-new-pokemon), New Pokemon (http://pokebeach.com/2010/07/exclusive-pictures-of-two-new-pokemon-from-zoroark-movie-ads-minezumi-unknown-pokemon))

No pics this time, due to a Pokestorm. -_- (Read the second link for details).
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 10, 2010, 07:11:35 PM
Rankurusu, the gothic-like Pokemon

WHAT IS THIS? I DON'T EVEN...

No pics this time, due to a Pokestorm. -_-

I [tornado fang]ing missed it! D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 10, 2010, 07:20:27 PM
The pics of the new Pokemon are still on the Pokebeach website.
Though ALL traces of the Pokestorm have disappeared.
ALL TRACES
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on July 10, 2010, 10:01:43 PM
Clean Images


(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/1872/477752857774d529fdd6.jpg)

Quote
On the japanese board 2ch, someone leaked some photoshots from demo stations with Black & White on display, and two shots from some pamphlet. A new Pokémon named Hatooboo [ハトーポー] is shown and more are expected to follow.

(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/329/477752868115295147a8.jpg)

(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/503/4777528911541e6c174a.jpg)

Source:  http://www.legendarypokemon.net
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 11, 2010, 11:24:30 AM
With the Pokestorm over... Might as well post the pics I didn't previously.

Minezumi
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3258/minezumi.jpg)

A front sprite of Moguryuu
(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/576/moguryuu.jpg)

Although unnamed at the moment, it's possibly Nezumimi
(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/3601/zoroarkmovieunnamedpoke.jpg)

Also, after the airing of Pokemon Sunday, a new bird Pokemon has been revealed.
It's unnamed at the moment.
(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/1117/birdpokemonsilhouettepo.jpg)

And lastly, have some movie Zekrom.
(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/762/zekromanimer.jpg)
PSYCHO ZEKROM

Pics from: Pokebeach.com (New bird Pokemon (http://pokebeach.com/2010/07/new-bird-pokemon-silhouette-shown-on-pokemon-sunday), All other pics (http://pokebeach.com/2010/07/exclusive-pictures-of-two-new-pokemon-from-zoroark-movie-ads-minezumi-unknown-pokemon))
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 11, 2010, 05:16:48 PM
1st Photo

Wooguru (ウォーグル) is the Valor Pokemon. Its name derives from "war" and "eagle." It is Normal / Flying, weighs 41kg, and stands 1.5m tall. One of its abilities is Keen Eye and it can learn a new attack called Free Fall (フリーフォール). Free Fall involves the Pokemon grabbing the opponent, lifting it into the air, and then on the next turn throwing it to the ground.

The names we posted on Friday have been confirmed:

Rankurusu (ランクルス) is the black / purple Pokemon that looks like a woman; its name partly derives from "chaos." It is a Psychic-type, stands 1.6m tall, and one of its two abilities is Magic Guard, which was previously exclusive to the Clefable line.

Gochiruzeru (ゴチルゼル) is the green, cell-shaped Pokemon; its name partly derives from "cell."

Kibago (キバゴ) is the green Pokemon that slightly resembles Larvitar; "kiba" means "fangs."

2nd Photo

Musharna (ムシャーナ) is apparently the evolution of Munna. The magazine says the Pokemon has a secret related to something called Dream Smoke (ゆめのけむり).

Right now, we're not sure what Dream Smoke is. This is all we can see from the photo: "Get 'Dream Smoke' and you will be able to receive a 'Game Sync,' which allows you to go to the Pokemon Global Link." Apparently, Dream Smoke has something to do with uploading your Black and White save file to the Internet (the Pokemon Global Link) and is somehow related to Musharna.

The woman's name is Makomo (マコモ) and she is Professor Araragi's friend.

Rest of the Photos

1st and 2nd Photos: One version will exclusively feature White Forest while the other version will exclusively feature Black City; Black City is in the first photo while White Forest is in the second.

3rd and 4th: These are two childhood friends of the main character. The girl boy with the short hair is Cheren, who was revealed in the Oha Suta trailer two weeks ago. The blond girl is either named Yuberu or Beru (too blurry to tell).

5th: Ken Sugimori artwork of the Pokemon Kibago, Koromori, and Minezumi. Kibago was revealed on the anime character sheet last week and later as a toy, Koromori was also revealed in the anime character sheet and is on Kurt's hat in The Ruler of Illusions: Zoroark, and it's Psychic/Flying, and we revealed Minezumi yesterday.

6th and 7th: This man is a mysterious person named N. He also appeared in the Oha Suta game trailer from two weeks ago. Next to him, it says, "Pokemon are 'FRIENDS!'"


(http://i30.tinypic.com/33bi9a8.jpg)(http://i28.tinypic.com/20797rk.jpg)(http://i30.tinypic.com/b6328l.jpg)(http://i30.tinypic.com/b9et7p.jpg)(http://i28.tinypic.com/343sm5y.jpg)(http://i30.tinypic.com/ra0soo.jpg)(http://i27.tinypic.com/kb7huf.jpg)(http://i27.tinypic.com/2uz47eu.jpg)(http://i28.tinypic.com/313si9l.jpg)

Source (http://pokebeach.com/2010/07/july-corocoro-scans-leaking)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 11, 2010, 05:42:47 PM
Hehe, so that bird from Pokemon Sunday is Wooguru...

And Cheren... Wow.
N is just screaming he's hiding some secret with that pose.

Posted on: July 11, 2010, 23:28:37
Edited the news post with a few tiny updates.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on July 11, 2010, 06:57:04 PM
Raccoon thief.
New derp confirmed.

Also, I don't like that flying koosh ball.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: GP Aznable on July 11, 2010, 07:17:24 PM
Man, the designs are just getting worse. Wargle should be renamed Eaglemon.



But still wanna play it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on July 11, 2010, 07:23:19 PM
Wargle should be renamed Eaglemon.
I really don't want to admit this, but I'm much too inclined to agree with you.

Looks like this gen is going to be more of a mixed bag than the others.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on July 11, 2010, 07:29:13 PM
Man, the designs are just getting worse. Wargle should be renamed Eaglemon.

Add the fact that the trainers look more out of Digimon than Pokemon is anyone's guess. :P
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 12, 2010, 08:45:11 AM
More scans have been leaked!

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4620/corocoro3on3battles.jpg)
In 3-on-3 battles, the placement and setup of your Pokemon will be important to the battle. Depending on who is in the middle and in the front of your party, the way attacks hit will change, so switching your Pokemon's positions based on battle strategy becomes the main point of triple battles.


(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/628/corocoropassingby.jpg)
A new feature called "Passing By" will allow your DS to connect automatically with other players that are nearby. As you advance in Black and White, you will be able to help others on their journey.


(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1905/corocoronewbatch.jpg)
There is a new "High Link" feature that is reminiscent of the rescues in the Mystery Dungeon games. You can take on missions from a building in the middle of Isshu to help players who are in trouble.


(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/601/corocorotvreceiver.jpg) (http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/6991/corocoronewbatch2.jpg)
The DSi will now have a "TV Transceiver" feature (not for the old DS or DS Lite). You can use its camera to talk to friends that you have exchanged friend codes with using "Live Caster." Locally you can talk to up to four people, and over Wi-Fi only two. This may or may not be a Black and White-exclusive feature.


A new attack called "Magic Room" negates the effects of all items held by your and your opponent's Pokemon.


Source: Pokebeach.com (http://pokebeach.com/2010/07/july-corocoro-scans-leaking)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 12, 2010, 08:46:23 AM
(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/601/corocorotvreceiver.jpg)(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/6991/corocoronewbatch2.jpg)
The DSi will now have a "TV Transceiver" feature (not for the old DS or DS Lite). You can use its camera to talk to friends that you have exchanged friend codes with using "Live Caster." Locally you can talk to up to four people, and over Wi-Fi only two. This may or may not be a Black and White-exclusive feature.

yay :v

Seriously though, like anyone other than the Japs are gonna use it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 12, 2010, 08:58:27 AM
A new attack called "Magic Room" negates the effects of all items held by your and your opponent's Pokemon.
Here's the scan:
(http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/654/gochiruzeru.jpg)

From Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 12, 2010, 09:00:28 AM
I have a feeling that Magic Room is going to be used a lot.  I just hope they'll have hold items that can raise defense this time without you having to be at critical.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 13, 2010, 06:52:07 PM
Pages 4 and 5

When you pick your starter, the other two go to your two rivals: Bell (the blond girl) and Cheren (the black-haired boy). They are your two childhood friends. All three of you start your journey together at the same time, just like Ash, Gary, and the other Pallet Town Pokemon Trainers in the show and the three Gold and Silver trainers in the Legend of Raikou special.

The game starts from Route 1, indicating that this region is much farther away than Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh.

N will keep challenging you in order to confirm his ideas of justice. He calls Pokemon his "friends," but one of the screenshots shows him saying that he wants to split humans and Pokemon and divide them so that the world is black and white. He has the unique idea to set Pokemon free from people. He's looking for the power to grant these ideals.

Pages 6 and 7

In 3-on-3 battles, if your Pokemon is, for example, on the far left, it won't be able to hit a Pokemon on the far right. There is a button on the bottom left hand corner of the battle screen which is called "Move" and allows you to swap your Pokemon's positions. Thus, a Pokemon on the far right can hit the opponent's Pokemon that are on the far right as well as the middle. The magazine also says that if the Pokemon in the middle uses an attack that hits all Pokemon, then it will be very powerful.

A new ability called Telepathy prevents Pokemon from receiving damage from teammates. For example, if a Pokemon has Telepathy in a two-on-two or three-on-three battle and one of your Pokemon uses Surf, the Pokemon with Telepathy will not be damaged.

There is a new, unnamed attack which for one turn will cause all of your team members to avoid attacks that hit all team members.

Pages 8 and 9

Rankurusu (the green cell) and Gochiruzeru (the black humanshaped Pokemon) are both version-exclusives, but it doesn't say which is in which version.

Pokemon White will exclusively feature White Forest while Pokemon Black will exclusively feature Black City.

You can see Black City in the top left of the scan and White Forest right next to it. You can also see game screenshots of the two locations below their artwork.

There will be cities that look different based on the version even though they are the same city. In the bottom two screenshots on the left page, you can see one city that looks different in both versions of the game.

Pages 10 and 11

Gochiruzeru (ゴチルゼル) is the Celestial Body Pokemon, also a Psychic-type (the humanshape goth). Its one known ability is Frisk and it can learn a new move called Magic Room, which takes away the effects of items for 5 turns. It is 1.5m tall and weighs 44.0kg. Its name may derive from "gothic" and "madmoiselle."

Rankurusu (ランクルス) is the Amplification Pokemon, a Psychic-type (the green blob). It knows a new ability called "Dust-Proof" (ぼうじん), which prevents it (and possibly other Pokemon on your team that are out in battle) from taking damage from weather effects such as Sandstorm and Hail. Its second ability is Magic Guard, which was previously exclusive to the Clefable line. It stands 1.0m tall and weighs 20.1kg. Its name may derive from "chaos" and "homunculus."

Wargle (ウォーグル) is the Valor Pokemon, a Normal/Flying type. Its name derives from "war" and "eagle." One of its abilities is Keen Eye and the other is Encourage, which boosts the power of its attacks but prevents any secondary effects such as Poisoning or Burning (Hihidaruma has the same ability). It can learn a new attack called Free Fall (フリーフォール), which involves the Pokemon grabbing the opponent, lifting it into the air, and then on the next turn throwing it to the ground. It stands 1.5m tall and weighs 41.0kg.

Kibago (キバゴ) is the Tusk Pokemon, a Dragon-type. Its abilities are Rivalry and Mold Breaker. It has a new attack called Double Chop (ダブルチョップ), which hits the opponent twice. It is 0.6m tall and weighs 18.0kg.

Koromori (コロモリ) is the Bat Pokemon, a Psychic/Flying-type Pokemon. Its abilities are Unaware and Klutz. It knows a new attack called Heart Stamp (ハートスタンプ), which can cause the opponent to flinch. It is 0.4m tall and weighs 2.1kg.

Minezumi (ミネズミ) is the Lookout Pokemon, a Normal-type. Its abilities are Run Away and Keen Eye. It stands 0.5m tall and weighs 11.6kg.

Pages 12 and 13

Musharna (ムシャーナ) is the Trance Pokemon and is a Psychic-type like its pre-evolution Munna. The dreams of Pokemon are inside its smoke; both Munna and Musharna give off this Dream Smoke. It has the abilities Forewarn and Synchronize, stands 1.1m tall, and weighs 60.5kg.

If you obtain "Dream Smoke," you can use a "Game Sync" to enable the uploading of your Black and White file to the Internet. Basically, it seems like "Dream Smoke" unlocks your ability to upload your game file.

The player will receive the C Gear from Makomo, Professor Araragi's friend, after they do something she asks. The C Gear has features for Wi-Fi, local wireless, and infrared.

The High Link is a building at the center of Isshu through which you can connect to other players' games. Using the High Link, you can travel to another player's world and adventure with them together.

Pages 14 and 15

With the DS's infrared signal, you can have speedy battles with up to four players and speedy trades directly from your party or PC box. You can also automatically exchange friend codes over infrared now.

A new feature called Passing By will allow your DS to connect automatically with other players that are nearby. As you advance in Black and White, you will be able to help others on their journey. It is part of the C Gear.

The games have a Live Caster feature (not for the old DS or DS Lite), which allows you to use the DSi's camera to talk to friends through video feed. Locally, you can talk to up to four people, while over Wi-Fi you can only talk to two. The Live Caster will have a pen and stamp tool so you can play with the pictures while using the video chat.

Characters in the game will use the Live Caster feature to talk to you as well. o.o' N is seen using this in the trailer that showed on Oha Suta a few weeks ago.

As has been rumored for months, the two games will now support Kanji for Japanese players. Apparently, the game's script will change a bit as well, perhaps since those who would change to Kanji are older players (will it be a little more detailed with more advanced vocabulary?). There is a man in the game who can switch it for you. He most likely will be deleted for the American games, as we only have one alphabet.

There is a new feature called Feeling Check that checks the compatibility of players. One of the things it shows is a game where two people have to keep the same rhythm.

The blond childhood friend of the main character is named Bell.

Pages 16 and 17, 18 and 19

The Pokemon Global Link, which is the service that allows you to upload your Black and White save file to a special website, has two different modes: one where you have your Pokemon play in a dream and another where you can battle online. You can unlock the Global Link feature once you obtain Musharna, the evolution of Munna, meaning it is one of those "gimmick" Pokemon like Plusle and Minun were for 2-on-2 battles.

If you are registered through the Pokemon Global Link, you can play online battles using a "Rating Mode" or "Random Match" mode at to the Global Terminal inside the Pokemon Center. It will send your battle results to a server and you can compare your results to other players to see who is a strong Trainer.

In the World of Dreams, your Pokemon have their own rooms that they can play in and they can play mini-games with other Pokemon. Pokemon that your Pokemon becomes friends with in the dream world can be taken back to the real world, being your game; you can capture Pokemon not available in the Isshu PokeDex and transfer them to your games in this fashion. To transfer Pokemon to the computer and thus to the World of Dreams, there will be a new Game Sync option available through the C Gear, which allows you to choose one Pokemon to send to your computer.

There is going to be an event held from 8/7 to 8/31 where you can encounter an Eeveelution in a dream on the Pokemon Daisuki Club website, perhaps a way to teach players how the new feature will work. Presumably, you can send the Eeveelution you encounter back to Black and White once they are released.


(http://i29.tinypic.com/1zvpxfb.jpg)(http://i28.tinypic.com/n653s2.jpg)(http://i32.tinypic.com/24v0d53.jpg)(http://i31.tinypic.com/ejvkns.jpg)(http://i30.tinypic.com/4q28pd.jpg)(http://i32.tinypic.com/2csbgo2.jpg)(http://i27.tinypic.com/23wldsx.jpg)(http://i27.tinypic.com/2wmqixd.jpg)

Source (http://pokebeach.com/2010/07/clear-scans-of-julys-corocoro-magazine)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on July 13, 2010, 06:59:38 PM
Veeerryy intresting. Expect me to pick up a copy of Black or White when I buy a 3DS.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 14, 2010, 12:26:39 AM
High Link sounds awesome, though if it's local-only, I may not be able to do much with it.  Unless I get my neighbor's kid a generous gift, anyway.

The C Gear has features for Wi-Fi, local wireless, and infrared.

...

With the DS's infrared signal, you can have speedy battles with up to four players and speedy trades directly from your party or PC box. You can also automatically exchange friend codes over infrared now.
(http://home.comcast.net/~Anguirus/holdit.gif)
Neither the DS nor the DSi have infrared links, although one can include an infrared link in the cartridge itself as was done with HG/SS.  I also believe there was an infrared port on the E3 3DS models, but I'm not sure if "hybrid" 3DS carts are possible or not.

Infrared depends on line of sight, though, so I don't see how "up to four players" would work under such circumstances.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on July 14, 2010, 12:54:51 AM
*waits patiently for Gym Leader leak*
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 15, 2010, 01:44:30 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiVVFYB2PMY[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 18, 2010, 07:17:37 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRrLq7S2h08[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on July 19, 2010, 07:46:18 AM
I expect no less than a successful Shoryuken from the Black Belt NPCs.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 19, 2010, 05:06:21 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XPYQvlA6IQ[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zei9byh-mxU[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 22, 2010, 02:30:47 AM
(http://i25.tinypic.com/ea0cc4.jpg)

Is that a Luvdisc evolution I see there? 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 22, 2010, 06:16:06 AM
It might be because of the camera angle but that Luvdis evo looks pissed.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on July 22, 2010, 04:09:15 PM
It might be because of the camera angle but that Luvdis evo looks pissed.

Uh oh, [parasitic bomb] got real!  8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on July 22, 2010, 06:43:53 PM
I'm sure being considered the worst pokemon ever for over half a decade can [acid burst] off even cute useless heart shaped things.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on July 22, 2010, 08:30:16 PM
It might be because of the camera angle but that Luvdis evo looks pissed.

It's called tough love for a reason! xD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akira on July 23, 2010, 12:40:01 AM
Quote
‘Black’ and ‘White’ Video Footage: Intro, Starter Battles, Pokemon Battles
   

   
The current issue of Dengeki Nintendo DS magazine contains an advertisement DVD with new Black and White video footage, and thanks to an armed robbery at their printing plant an anonymous Japanese PokeBeach reader, we now have the video to share with everyone! The first video below shows part of the game's intro followed by you, Cheren, and Belle opening the present from Professor Araragi and picking your starter Pokemon. You then battle them, destroying your room in the process. The second video shows several battle scenes between most of the recently revealed Pokemon. Enjoy!

Source: http://pokebeach.com/



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oArS76pbYqM&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_aSt1EHSAQ&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 25, 2010, 01:34:57 AM
(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/3601/zoroarkmovieunnamedpoke.jpg)

Mystery Pokemon name unveiled and it's a legendary.

Quote from: PokeBeach
Pokemon Sunday just finished airing and revealed the new Black and White Legendary Pokemon that was shown in the advertisement following The Ruler of Illusions: Zoroark movie: its name is Bikutini (ビクティニ-). It is number 000 in the Isshu PokeDex and you will be able to get it once you obtain a Liberty Ticket (リバティチケット) item, which will be distributed to Black and White players between September 18th and October 18th. The show also showed footage from a 3-on-3 battle; a video will be uploaded to YouTube shortly and posted here, so be sure to check back in a bit!


Source (http://pokebeach.com/2010/07/pokemon-sunday-reveals-legendary-pokemon-from-14th-movie-ad)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on July 25, 2010, 01:51:19 AM
Huh, this isin't the first time we had tiny legendaries (SEE: The Lake Trio from gen 4).
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 25, 2010, 04:38:57 AM
Huh, this isin't the first time we had tiny legendaries (SEE: The Lake Trio from gen 4).
This one requires an event item it seems, and tiny legendaries as promotional-only are quite common; at least one exists in every generation.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 25, 2010, 07:01:48 AM
This one requires an event item it seems, and tiny legendaries as promotional-only are quite common; at least one exists in every generation.
Which means that chances are it's going to be at least a psychic if not a dual psychic.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 27, 2010, 11:54:13 PM
Perhaps, but Manaphy/Phione broke that trend last gen (good thing given the entire "legendary trio" of last-gen was Psychic).  And this guy appears to stand rather than float.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 28, 2010, 01:26:40 AM
Yeah that is true, and I guess you can count Shaymin too since he's small and had his own movie.  What do you think he is I mean he does have little wings on his...lower back.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on July 30, 2010, 02:09:05 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqcVf4Da23Q[/youtube]

Quote from: PokeBeach
Today's Oha Suta revealed three new Pokemon: a deer Pokemon, Shikijika (シキジカ); an unnamed swan Pokemon; and the evolution of Minezumi, Miruhoggu (ミルホッグ). The show also confirmed that the evil team in the game is named Team Plasma.

Also, Pokemon musical...wat.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on July 30, 2010, 07:47:35 PM
Team Plasma, eh? I like it! :D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on July 30, 2010, 07:53:36 PM
Oh god, they are going to be something like the Illuminanti...though I like their crazy knights outfits :D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on July 30, 2010, 08:02:27 PM
ANGELS & POKEMANS

lol
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 30, 2010, 09:44:46 PM
Kights and kings and Bambi is finally a pokemon, well this is intresting.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on July 30, 2010, 10:04:07 PM
...They gave smugleaf in one scene a top hat and a walking stick...there is no bigger proof that he´s based on Excalibur!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on August 01, 2010, 06:44:18 AM
Quote from: PokeBeach
Pokemon Sunday has revealed the full character designs of Iris, the new female companion to Ash, as well as a new male character, Dento; both will appear in Best Wishes, the next "season" of the anime that will take place in the Isshu region. Iris is confirmed to have a Kibago as seen in the character sheet leaked a few weeks ago, but nothing is known about Dento at this point in time.

During one of the segments, the Pokemon Sunday crew was able to get inside the new Black and White tour buses that will be traveling around Japan this month. They tried out the game demo inside, battling Belle, Cheren, and encountering a wild Shimama on a rainy route. It is interesting to note that Shimama's mane was white during the first part of the battle, but once it used an Electric-type attack, the mane started to glow yellow... could we have varying animations like this with other Pokemon? [I was watching a low-quality video when I wrote that originally - it glows yellow before and after the attack.] Next week, the show promises to reveal more details on Victini.

Update (6:00 PM) - TV Tokyo has uploaded 5-second clips of Tsuutaja, Pokabu, Mijumaru, and Reshiram. They are presumably from the first or so episode of Best Wishes, which probably means one of the characters sees Reshiram for an instant like Ash saw Ho-Oh and Dawn say Mesprit.

Update #2 (6:30 PM) - The TV Tokyo website also posted biographies of the characters. For Iris, they say, "Her specialty is tree climbing, she makes good use of berries for herself, and she is a girl with very wild behavior. For some reason, she is traveling with the Dragon-type Pokemon, Kibago." For Dento, the new male, they say he is "A Pokemon Sommelier (waiter) who is a source of abundant knowledge and experience, diagnoses the compatibility between Trainer and Pokemon, and gives advice on how to befriend. Is this really, in fact, true?!" My theory based on the biographies: Iris replaces Dawn (obvious to anyone) and Dento replaces Brock or is just a rival in Pokemon Contests. Thanks goes to KurowaSan from our forums for the translations!

Update #3 (6:45 PM) - Higher-quality videos of the anime preview and game footage added below thanks to our friends at Filb.de.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEJJFuSmGpE[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv89JDW5RoQ[/youtube]

Source (http://pokebeach.com/2010/07/best-wishes-characters-iris-and-dento-revealed-on-pokemon-sunday)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 01, 2010, 06:57:15 AM
Huh so you fight both rivals in the same place at once again, oh boy.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on August 01, 2010, 07:00:59 AM
Wait. That screenshot...

Triple battles? Srsly? Just srsly?

Anyways, DPP wasn't all that good, and BW don't look all that prety either. I'll check it out anyways of course.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on August 01, 2010, 08:38:12 AM
Wait. That screenshot...

Triple battles? Srsly? Just srsly?

old news

Anyways, DPP wasn't all that good, and BW don't look all that prety either. I'll check it out anyways of course.

you think gen 1 or 2 was the best, don't you?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on August 03, 2010, 12:51:33 AM
old news

you think gen 1 or 2 was the best, don't you?

To you. Not to me.

Yeah. Gen 2, no contest. Crystal was my baby.

I enjoyed Emerald as well, but Crystal set memories for me.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on August 03, 2010, 02:46:09 AM
I is still waitin' for the gym leaders and/or the Elite 4 of this new gen to be revealed.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on August 03, 2010, 04:43:49 PM
Quote from: PokeBeach
The Japanese Yahoo website has inadvertently leaked Ken Sugimori images of a new Bug-type Pokemon, the previously revealed swan Pokemon, and Shikijika. You can see all three images below. Victini has been confirmed as a Psychic / Fire type. It is the Victory Pokemon and has a new ability called Victory Star. It stands 0.4m tall and weighs 4.0kg. Ken Sugimori images of Aloe, Dento, and Team Plasma were also leaked.

(http://i32.tinypic.com/2njwui0.jpg)(http://i28.tinypic.com/10yp9tu.jpg)(http://i30.tinypic.com/2nks7d1.jpg)(http://i26.tinypic.com/14vmf05.jpg)
(http://i32.tinypic.com/289zlp1.jpg)(http://i29.tinypic.com/2igc3km.jpg)(http://i29.tinypic.com/2ihxyxe.jpg)


Source (http://pokebeach.com/2010/08/one-new-pokemon-victinis-types)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Acid on August 03, 2010, 04:45:21 PM
Whoa... Team Crusaders?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on August 03, 2010, 06:42:42 PM
Psychic/Fire? FINALLY!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 03, 2010, 08:58:34 PM
Whoa I knew it was a Psychic type but I didn't think it would be Psychic/Fire.  *gasp*  Bambi is pink!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on August 03, 2010, 09:41:02 PM
Who wants to bet that one of the other two leaked people is either a gym leader, elite 4 member, or the champion?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on August 03, 2010, 09:52:43 PM
The first person is definately, Tom the Cat's owner. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: geekgo4 on August 04, 2010, 08:56:02 AM
The first person is definately, Tom the Cat's owner. XD
Mammy Two-Shoes was stronger looking that that.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on August 04, 2010, 09:00:50 AM
Aloe and Dento? Al dente?  8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on August 04, 2010, 12:47:08 PM
Mammy Two-Shoes was stronger looking that that.
Not to mention she's missing two dozen aprons.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: GP Aznable on August 05, 2010, 03:51:30 PM
New evil team... still no miniskirts.


Psychic/Fire? I say, bad pairing.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on August 07, 2010, 04:23:39 PM
Who wants to bet that one of the other two leaked people is either a gym leader, elite 4 member, or the champion?

[tornado fang]ing duh.

Anyway...

Gen5 is gen 1 apparently;

Quote from: PokeBeach
Junichi Masuda announced on his blog that Black and White will only feature fifth generation Pokemon until later in the game: "This time around, until the ending of the games, there are only new Pokemon. Only new Pokemon will appear! This way, adults and children alike will start from scratch, and have the fun of saying 'what's that Pokemon?' just like in Red and Green. When people within the company played it, their feelings were... 'It feels fresh because they're all Pokemon I haven't seen before,' 'I didn't know the Pokemon types, so their attacks surprised me,' 'The new things make me feel like I did when I played Red and Green,' and so on and so on, it was a really good vibe. Designing the Pokemon was an enormous feat... but my graphics team said, 'Since everyone enjoyed it, we're happy!' Please play [the games] and see for yourself! Later!"

Also, Team Plasma is PETA;

Quote from: PokeBeach
[...] reveals a new shot of Team Plasma (at 0:16). The apparent leader of the team says to a group of Trainers, "What we're discussing is liberating Pokemon." It seems Team Plasma is like the PETA, which is fitting if Isshu is really based off locations in the United States [combined with N's line that "Pokemon are friends"].

Source (http://pokebeach.com/2010/08/new-black-and-white-commercials-only-fifth-generation-pokemon-in-bw)

Posted on: August 05, 2010, 09:01:54 AM
(http://i38.tinypic.com/2jrygm.jpg)(http://i33.tinypic.com/2ly33bs.jpg)(http://i38.tinypic.com/nxnqrq.jpg)(http://i36.tinypic.com/b8mgyw.jpg)(http://i35.tinypic.com/2cr557c.png)


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Emonga (エモンガ) is the Flying Squirrel Pokemon, stands 0.4m tall, and weights 5.0kg. It is an Electric / Flying-type and has Static as its ability.

Gigaiasu (ギガイアス), which was revealed previously, is the High Pressure Pokemon. It is a Rock-type, has the Sturdy ability, stands 1.7m tall, and weighs 270.0kg.

Darumakka (ダルマッカ) is a Fire-type and the supposed pre-evolution of Hihidaruma.

Another new Pokemon revealed but not pictured is Basurao (バスラオ), which knows Aqua Jet and Uproar.

Shikijika (the previously revealed deer) is a Normal / Grass-type and has Chlorophyll as its ability. Its appearance changes according to the seasons: in the spring it is pink (like the Ken Sugimori artwork), in the summer it is green, in the fall it is orange, and winter's color is unknown.

Growth now seems to raise Special Attack and Attack by one stage.

(http://i34.tinypic.com/b55tnb.jpg)(http://i38.tinypic.com/2ues2mv.jpg)

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Shikijika is a Normal / Grass-type (as revealed in the previous update) and changes its color depending on the in-game season.

In the spring Shikijika is pink (like the official Ken Sugimori artwork), in the summer it is green, in the fall it is orange, and in the winter it is brown.

There will be a new in-game season each month of the real year, meaning three seasons a year.

As seen on the bottom of the scan, the color of Isshu's terrain changes depending on the season as well.

Aloe is the Gym Leader of Shippou City (シッポウシティ).

The city could be named after a religious Buddhist term for the "Seven Precious Treasures," being Gold, Silver, Pearls, Agate, Crystal, Coral, and Lapis Lazuli. Some of these have been game namesakes to boot. It can also be named after "Cloisonne," which is enamel work ("enamelware in which colored areas are separated by thin metal strips"). So the city may deal in religion or art (or perhaps uses the metal from that religious term for the enamel work). Considering Aloe is wearing a big apron, she might be a cloisonne ware maker. But none of this is confirmed yet of course!

Speaking of which, an "aloe" is an African flower.

Source (http://pokebeach.com/)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on August 07, 2010, 06:34:16 PM
Gen5 is gen 1 apparently

To that I say good. I'm [tornado fang]ing sick of Zubats and Geodudes in every game.

Also, Team Plasma is PETA.

I always wondered when someone would bring up the ethical implications of Pokemon battling in-game. This should be quite interesting.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on August 07, 2010, 06:44:42 PM
Gigaias looks [tornado fang]ing sexy.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dexter Dexter on August 09, 2010, 02:32:07 AM
What does everybody think of this? (http://ds.nintendolife.com/news/2010/08/get_ready_for_a_story_mode_full_of_new_pokemon_in_black_and_white)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on August 09, 2010, 02:57:14 AM
What does everybody think of this? (http://ds.nintendolife.com/news/2010/08/get_ready_for_a_story_mode_full_of_new_pokemon_in_black_and_white)

You mean stuff I posted days ago? Indeed.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Bueno Excelente on August 09, 2010, 03:05:04 AM
You mean stuff I posted days ago? Indeed.
Plus, I heard that the female character was gonna have these really short shorts. And that the cities were gonna be huge and on 3D.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on August 10, 2010, 03:24:17 AM
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TMs will no longer expire after one use - you can use them as many times as you want, like HMs!
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TMs will no longer expire after one use - you can use them as many times as you want, like HMs!
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TMs will no longer expire after one use - you can use them as many times as you want, like HMs!

http://pokebeach.com/

Ok, I must know why nobody has mentioned this at all. Oh, there's more Coro Coro info now too >.>
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on August 10, 2010, 03:29:49 AM
Yeah, I was just reading up on a lot of this stuff on GAF and [tornado fang] if it doesn't some amazing.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on August 10, 2010, 03:33:49 AM
Yeah, and you know what's the most exciting possibility of these new TMs? The removal of HMs. Honestly, I don't see any reason at all to keep them the way they are now if their only difference is that they're a pain in the ass to manage by being unforgettable.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on August 10, 2010, 04:00:16 AM
Ok, I must know why nobody has mentioned this at all. Oh, there's more Coro Coro info now too >.>

I PM'd it to Hypershell and Sakura earlier. I'm just too [tornado fang]ing lazy to post anything new now a days.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 10, 2010, 04:53:43 AM
Yeah, and you know what's the most exciting possibility of these new TMs? The removal of HMs. Honestly, I don't see any reason at all to keep them the way they are now if their only difference is that they're a pain in the ass to manage by being unforgettable.
Yeah especially moves like Flash, Defog, and Whirl Pool since you only would probably use them once or twice.  The only good moves that Hm's have are Surf and Fly for instant teleportation.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: HokutoNoBen on August 10, 2010, 08:42:50 PM
Yeah especially moves like Flash, Defog, and Whirl Pool since you only would probably use them once or twice.  The only good moves that Hm's have are Surf and Fly for instant teleportation.

Don't forget Strength. Beyond its situational use for the puzzles on the field, it's still a good move to use in battle, as well. Especially if you have a physical-stat favoring Pokemon.

Any way, the flip side of the TM news (now that I've come down to Earth about it) probably means that we'll probably have to work even harder for some of them, since you only have to get one to have your entire potential posse covered. That could possibly make things even more interesting than they've been already. But in any case, again...it's good to see even more proof of Pokemon finally becoming a "16-bit era" RPG. 8D

And I definitely agree with Jeri's comments on GAF that this is shaping up to be the "G/S/C" of this day and age. It only needs a second region to explore, and it would do just that...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 10, 2010, 09:23:19 PM
Don't forget Strength. Beyond its situational use for the puzzles on the field, it's still a good move to use in battle, as well. Especially if you have a physical-stat favoring Pokemon.
I didn't count Strength since it's a normal type move, Normal type moves don't work for me unless it's Explosion with a really fast pokemon at critical mass.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on August 10, 2010, 09:25:49 PM
*reads back* Wait, the game incorporates seasons now!?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 10, 2010, 09:26:39 PM
Yup once every month.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on August 10, 2010, 09:30:20 PM
Yup once every month.
Huh. Well, if I'm understanding what you're saying, then now I have a semi accurate time estimation.

1 year in-game = 4 months real-life
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 10, 2010, 09:32:06 PM
Huh. Well, if I'm understanding what you're saying, then now I have a semi accurate time estimation.

1 year in-game = 4 months real-life
Something like that, but it's still 3 months per season so even with the eractic changes it's still roughly the same.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 10, 2010, 11:19:21 PM
To that I say good. I'm [tornado fang]ing sick of Zubats and Geodudes in every game.

As am I, sick to [parasitic bomb] of seeing Pidgey and Ratatta everywhere too.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 11, 2010, 12:03:20 AM
As am I, sick to [parasitic bomb] of seeing Pidgey and Ratatta everywhere too.
Don't forget the Magikarps.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on August 11, 2010, 12:05:45 AM
Don't forget the Magikarps.

Nor the Tentacool and Tentacruel.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on August 11, 2010, 03:48:18 AM
Ok, I must know why nobody has mentioned this at all. Oh, there's more Coro Coro info now too >.>
This is the best news I've heard all year.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 11, 2010, 03:59:52 AM
Nor the Tentacool and Tentacruel.

OH GOD THE TENTACOOL.

Lapras Used Surf!
*As soon as you start Moving*
Wild TENTACOOL Appeared!
"Got Away Safely!"
*5 More "Steps*
Wild TENTACOOL Appeared!
"Can't Escape!"

 >_<
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on August 11, 2010, 07:21:24 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vPw4GaSXoU[/youtube]

Moguryuu's other ability, Sand Throw, boosts its Speed in a SandStorm. Remember, we learned the other day that its ability, Sand Power, boosts its Attack in a SandStorm, however it specifically raises the power of Rock, Ground and Steel moves.

In addition to hitting multiple opponent's, Kurumiru’s Bug Resistance also may lower Special Defense.

All Eeveelutions get a unique ability if obtained in the Dream World, as we knew. We also knew Vaporeon got Hydration, and now we know that Glaceon gets Ice Body

Status ailments appear to slow a Pokémon's animated sprite movements. Vaporeon's eyes appear to close when it falls asleep!

There are explorable maps in the Dream World where you will be able to find items and meet Pokémon.

Berries that are found and buried in your garden must be buried as is the case in Berry Pots and when planted around Sinnoh. Whether growth times will remain the same is unclear.

The land you own can be expanded through planting berries.

In the Dream World your house (interior AND exterior) can be decorated and you and your friends can visit eachother's houses.

The Global Battle Union ranks you and others and compares battle statistics in real-time.

The C-Gear has a feature where you can partake in polls. In the gallery, you'll notice some pictures of a messy lab. This lab tracks/manages the poll information.

Source (http://pldh.net/home/archive/110810)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on August 11, 2010, 09:18:54 PM
OH GOD THE TENTACOOL.

Lapras Used Surf!
*As soon as you start Moving*
Wild TENTACOOL Appeared!
"Got Away Safely!"
*5 More "Steps*
Wild TENTACOOL Appeared!
"Can't Escape!"

 >_<

Which is why I waste most of my money maxing out an item slot with Max Repels.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 12, 2010, 02:43:08 AM
Which is why I waste most of my money maxing out an item slot with Max Repels.

I never go into ocean water without a Max Repel sprayed on prior to entering the water.

Nintendo should make selective Repel in the next game or something.

"Bird Repel" "Rat Repel" "Cave creature Repel" "Squid Repel" That way you can still get the other better pokemon hiding around without the hassle. You know, like the roamers. Once you pass them in level you can't see them unless you swap to a weakling that probably doesn't have the moves you want.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 12, 2010, 02:47:13 AM
I never go into ocean water without a Max Repel sprayed on prior to entering the water.

Nintendo should make selective Repel in the next game or something.

"Bird Repel" "Rat Repel" "Cave creature Repel" "Squid Repel" That way you can still get the other better pokemon hiding around without the hassle. You know, like the roamers. Once you pass them in level you can't see them unless you swap to a weakling that probably doesn't have the moves you want.
Which is why I use Master Balls on roamers.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on August 13, 2010, 06:24:57 AM
I never go into ocean water without a Max Repel sprayed on prior to entering the water.

Nintendo should make selective Repel in the next game or something.

"Bird Repel" "Rat Repel" "Cave creature Repel" "Squid Repel" That way you can still get the other better pokemon hiding around without the hassle. You know, like the roamers. Once you pass them in level you can't see them unless you swap to a weakling that probably doesn't have the moves you want.

Aye. That would be helpful. I've caught many a roamer only to lose it due to a repel being active.

Which is why I use Master Balls on roamers.

His point was so a repel doesn't act against a roamer. He said nothing about not catching them. Which can be done just as easily with a certain move, you may know of it. It's called BLOCK. And it's NOT a waste of a perfectly good Master Ball.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 13, 2010, 07:09:27 AM
Oh shoot your right, I hate when I get the wrong idea.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on August 13, 2010, 07:17:03 AM
His point was so a repel doesn't act against a roamer. He said nothing about not catching them. Which can be done just as easily with a certain move, you may know of it. It's called BLOCK. And it's NOT a waste of a perfectly good Master Ball.

not much else worth using a master ball on
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 13, 2010, 07:26:54 AM
Aye. That would be helpful. I've caught many a roamer only to lose it due to a repel being active.

His point was so a repel doesn't act against a roamer. He said nothing about not catching them. Which can be done just as easily with a certain move, you may know of it. It's called BLOCK. And it's NOT a waste of a perfectly good Master Ball.

Well, block on a Soundproof with False swipe and Yawn. Thats the best way...

not much else worth using a master ball on

I used it on SS ho-oh because i'm a lazy [tornado fang]. My dipshit friend used his on rayquaza back when he played sapphire. (speaking of which, is at lvl 85 and currently stewing on my PC. while my Rayquaza that knows fly is with me. He wasn't the brightest one, giving his best pokemon (that knew shitty moves) away for a groudon.)

Currently I think i'm doing pretty well with the legendaries, I currently have all the Kanto ones, hunting down Latios, Caught Latias, Kyogre and Rayquaza were obtained through Gen 3 rather than wait for my Uncle to finish his file up. Groudon will be done when I feel like it, Ho-Oh and Lugia are mine, and Entei and Raikou are running around with 1 HP each, waiting to be blocked.

And of course, the Sinnoh ones and Those Event pokemon are going to be a while, because Nintendo thinks the US doesn't want Celebi ever, Shaymin passed me by (So did Arceus.), Mew might be on its way, and Jirachi will be a long time from now more than likely. And Darkrai won't be till it appears in another movie more than likely.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on August 13, 2010, 07:37:14 AM
not much else worth using a master ball on

It's impossible to beat the Elite 4 in Emerald. Luckily you can get Rayquaza BEFORE you beat them. Unfortunately you're too underleveled to fight him.

MASTER BALL.

That was my strategy anyways.

Seems like a good enough reason.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 13, 2010, 07:39:31 AM
It's impossible to beat the Elite 4 in Emerald. Luckily you can get Rayquaza BEFORE you beat them. Unfortunately you're too underleveled to fight him.

MASTER BALL.

That was my strategy anyways.

Seems like a good enough reason.

if its impossible how come i did it.

You should probably grind more. Its frustrating, but worth it. I mean, I was underleveled with a level 60 Sceptile to fight with, but i did it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on August 13, 2010, 07:41:52 AM
if its impossible how come i did it.

You should probably grind more. Its frustrating, but worth it. I mean, I was underleveled with a level 60 Sceptile to fight with, but i did it.

I use Blaziken. And I was level 66. I suppose it was the fact that I never let my main pokemon have non-offensive moves. Matter of fact, I never DID use stat-altering moves until I got LeafGreen.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 13, 2010, 07:44:56 AM
I never used stat altering moves until Soul Silver.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on August 13, 2010, 07:48:50 AM
I never used stat altering moves until Soul Silver.

Offensive trainer as well, eh? MY BRETHEREN!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 13, 2010, 07:50:17 AM
Yeah except for my Blaziken all 7 of my pokemon have 3 offensive moves and one support move.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on August 13, 2010, 08:22:48 AM
Yeah except for my Blaziken all 6 of my pokemon have 3 offensive moves and one support move.

Fixed it. Unless you have 7 pokemon in total. If that is the case, I apologize, but I must throw in some kind of noob joke.

Hopefully that's not the case.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 13, 2010, 08:24:04 AM
I do have 7.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 13, 2010, 08:25:51 AM
Offensive trainer as well, eh? MY BRETHEREN!

I fight the same way.

As such I [tornado fang]ing hate it when I get Paralyzed, Put to sleep, Poisoned, or Confused. mainly because I have no response to it.

I do have 7.

Nuzlocke or Catching what you use only?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 13, 2010, 08:40:54 AM
I fight the same way.

As such I [tornado fang]ing hate it when I get Paralyzed, Put to sleep, Poisoned, or Confused. mainly because I have no response to it.

Nuzlocke or Catching what you use only?
What the heck is a Nuzlocke?  Anyway I breed all my pokemon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on August 13, 2010, 10:13:17 AM
Hmm.... It's been half of forever since I rasied something from an egg (togepi doesn't count), I should probably do that.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on August 13, 2010, 10:32:09 AM
I do have 7.

^ No longer my bretheren

< Never had any less than 100 registered pokemon
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on August 13, 2010, 12:20:17 PM
What the heck is a Nuzlocke?  Anyway I breed all my pokemon.

Nuzlocke. (http://www.nuzlocke.com/?page_id=2)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 13, 2010, 10:05:41 PM
What the heck is a Nuzlocke?  Anyway I breed all my pokemon.

Well thats smart. I'm usually too goddamn lazy. I always catch stronger stuff, And I rarely ever have to switch from my Murderous Feraligatr. Of course, going against a real opponent would get me killed in one hit.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on August 13, 2010, 10:08:29 PM
My friend is attempting to run through FireRed with only his Charmander and all other pokemon as HM slaves exclusively.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 13, 2010, 10:52:38 PM
Well thats smart. I'm usually too goddamn lazy. I always catch stronger stuff, And I rarely ever have to switch from my Murderous Feraligatr. Of course, going against a real opponent would get me killed in one hit.
Yeah you would and my Feraligatr would probably kick his butt too, no offense.  Not mention I actually learned how to EV train my pokemon too. 

Breeding does take forever even with a Slugma/Macargo or Magby/Magmar/Magmortar, a swarm of Dittos with different natures, and unlimited Everstones because for people who EV train you have to look for specific natures and stuff.  If I was a perfectionist I would of look for strong IVs in certain stats too.  But hey when you somehow get a shiny Torchic that has the nature you were looking for it's worth it.

My friend is attempting to run through FireRed with only his Charmander and all other pokemon as HM slaves exclusively.
Wow so he's using 5 pokemon to be HM slaves for 7 HMs.  You know he could avoid this by getting a Lickitung, any Water type, and Flying type since Flash is only good for the Rock Tunnel.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on August 13, 2010, 10:53:56 PM
No point. I mean, he only uses the other 5 as HM slaves. All battling is done by the starter.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 13, 2010, 11:00:36 PM
No point. I mean, he only uses the other 5 as HM slaves. All battling is done by the starter.
Good luck in the Pokemon League his Charizard is going to get murdered by either Loreli, Lance, or Blue.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on August 13, 2010, 11:24:20 PM
Good luck in the Pokemon League his Charizard is going to get murdered by either Loreli, Lance, or Blue.

Aye. Had to Zapdos [twin slasher] those three. It was hell.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 13, 2010, 11:32:38 PM
I forgot how I handled them in Leaf Green.  I had a Venusaur, Raichu, Lapras, Nintales, Articuno, and a Eevee...I think.  Anyway I did okay.

EDIT: Yeah I kicked thier ass with a Eevee on my team.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on August 13, 2010, 11:41:05 PM
I had my Charizard and the rest were legendaries and an HM slave.

Charizard (Named Blaze), Mewtwo (Named Psyche), Zapdos (Zap), Articuno (AC), Moltres (Meltdown), and Lapras, (Surfer).
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 13, 2010, 11:44:51 PM
Yeah except for Leaf Green I never use legendaries.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on August 13, 2010, 11:45:29 PM
I raped with Rayquaza in Emerald. But I was 8. So I really didn't care.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 14, 2010, 11:06:18 PM
I never Nickname my Pokemon, mainly because I have no originality.

I once named a Nidoran (M) NONONONONONO....

I was 6, cut me some slack.

It was better than some of my friends at the time, they named their rival's such immature things...

I raped with Rayquaza in Emerald. But I was 8. So I really didn't care.

Emerald wasn't released that long ago...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 14, 2010, 11:16:33 PM
Emerald wasn't released that long ago...
Emerald was released in 2005 so if that's correct he's 13-14 now. 
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 14, 2010, 11:18:54 PM
Thats what I was thinking.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on August 15, 2010, 03:25:17 AM
Yeah, it's just the rest of us who are old geezers...

Good luck in the Pokemon League his Charizard is going to get murdered by either Loreli, Lance, or Blue.
I would think that the worst would be over after Misty, due to how early you face her and the obedience issues with over-leveling your starter that soon.  The later you get in the game, the more over-leveled your lone powerhouse gets, and thus the more likely it can conquer a type disadvantage.  Even with a "balanced" team, your first crack at the Elite Four usually boils down to item abuse anyway (not that the computer doesn't deserve it with their freaking Full Restores).
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 15, 2010, 04:50:52 AM
I would think that the worst would be over after Misty, due to how early you face her and the obedience issues with over-leveling your starter that soon.  The later you get in the game, the more over-leveled your lone powerhouse gets, and thus the more likely it can conquer a type disadvantage.  Even with a "balanced" team, your first crack at the Elite Four usually boils down to item abuse anyway (not that the computer doesn't deserve it with their freaking Full Restores).
That's true, I mean I did that in Blue with my Venusaur, but I knew it wasn't right and gave up on Blue.  That and the fact that Psychic types scared me back then since they would be too strong if I trained the normal way since all the Ghosts were part Poison and Bug moves really really sucked back then.  Then again with my knowlegde now I could of murdered them with an Eeveelution or Nintales.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on August 15, 2010, 05:29:25 PM
I never bought into the whole "Psychics are too powerful" complaints back then.  While it's true that there's no real way to hit them from a type-weakness standpoint (Ghost moves sucked too, regardless of Poison hybrid status), all first-gen Psychics with the exception of Hypno had high Speed but crappy Defense.  You could nail them with a strong physical attacker.  Not a problem for your resident Dragonite nutcase.  8)  Same is true of Ghosts, really, if you're not using Normal/Fighting moves.  Back before the new EV system shot everything to hell, even Zapdos's Drill Peck could ruin them.

These days, pretty much any Type can come with any stat distribution.  In first-gen there were a few trends that you could take advantage of.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on August 15, 2010, 05:37:50 PM
Emerald was released in 2005 so if that's correct he's 13-14 now. 

'Bout that. Kallen. Sakura was right on spot.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 16, 2010, 08:57:08 AM
'Bout that. Kallen. Sakura was right on spot.
Thats what I was thinking.

Anywho, Gyarados had been giving me tons of issues in SS, mainly because the ones that caused me trouble (Blue's and Lance's) had a rediculously high Defense stat. And none of the Pokemon I had at the time were very powerful. (This has changed, a Level 74 Feraligatr will tip the scales in my favor, Along with a Level 84 Rayquaza and a few other overpowed legendaries I bring along because I couldn't decently train a team if my life depended on it.)

Hell, i'm just going to do the same thing I did with Emerald and say [tornado fang] that to the Goddamn Battle Frontier.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on August 16, 2010, 04:07:40 PM

Hell, i'm just going to do the same thing I did with Emerald and say [tornado fang] that to the Goddamn Battle Frontier.

Battle Frontier can just GO TO HELL.

1. Because it is pretty much impossible to beat.

2. Because it's because of the Battle Factory that I never got Groudon on my last file. My little brother beat Groudon on my save file because I was gonna catch it next time I got on, then went to the Battle Factory, and you need to save to get in.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 16, 2010, 09:24:35 PM
Anywho, Gyarados had been giving me tons of issues in SS, mainly because the ones that caused me trouble (Blue's and Lance's) had a rediculously high Defense stat. And none of the Pokemon I had at the time were very powerful. (This has changed, a Level 74 Feraligatr will tip the scales in my favor, Along with a Level 84 Rayquaza and a few other overpowed legendaries I bring along because I couldn't decently train a team if my life depended on it.)

Hell, i'm just going to do the same thing I did with Emerald and say [tornado fang] that to the Goddamn Battle Frontier.


Yeah I never used a Gyarados, it takes too much to train it and it's never worth it.  I mean for crying out loud it's a flying type pokemon but it can't learn flying attacks not even Aerial Ace.  Arcanine can learn Aerial Ace no problem but not Gyarados who is a flying type not thanks that just makes him more vunerable for no reason.

Battle Frontier can just GO TO HELL.

1. Because it is pretty much impossible to beat.

2. Because it's because of the Battle Factory that I never got Groudon on my last file. My little brother beat Groudon on my save file because I was gonna catch it next time I got on, then went to the Battle Factory, and you need to save to get in.
So you didn't know that any tournament inside the games demands that you save and you went ahead and saved anyway?  

Honestly I like the Battle Frontier because I stay far far away from the Battle Factory myself and focus on the Battle Castle, Battle Tower, and ocassionally the Battle Arcade.

EDIT: Okay Gyarados can learn Bounce but I would never use Bounce or Fly in a real battle.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on August 16, 2010, 09:33:10 PM


Yeah I never used a Gyarados, it takes too much to train it and it's never worth it.  I mean for crying out loud it's a flying type pokemon but it can't learn flying attacks not even Aerial Ace.  Arcanine can learn Aerial Ace no problem but not Gyarados who is a flying type not thanks that just makes him more vunerable for no reason.

I really doubt he'd be OU if it wasn't worth it. Besides, what does he need Aerial Ace for?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 16, 2010, 09:39:00 PM
I really doubt he'd be OU if it wasn't worth it. Besides, what does he need Aerial Ace for?
I'm just saying why make him a Flying type if he can't learn any flying moves other than Bounce, which is a move that is learned by a bunch of non flyers anyway, through a move tutor.  It just makes him more vunerable for no reason.  Plus Bounce is just Fly with less accuracy, less attack power, and less PP but can Paralyze pokemon pretty well.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 16, 2010, 09:39:10 PM


Yeah I never used a Gyarados, it takes too much to train it and it's never worth it.  I mean for crying out loud it's a flying type pokemon but it can't learn flying attacks not even Aerial Ace.  Arcanine can learn Aerial Ace no problem but not Gyarados who is a flying type not thanks that just makes him more vunerable for no reason.
So you didn't know that any tournament inside the games demands that you save and you went ahead and saved anyway? 

Honestly I like the Battle Frontier because I stay far far away from the Battle Factory myself and focus on the Battle Castle, Battle Tower, and ocassionally the Battle Arcade.

EDIT: Okay Gyarados can learn Bounce but I would never use Bounce or Fly in a real battle.

I just don't like the picky bitchy rules they have in the Battle Frontier, No Legendaries so you can't have any aces in the hole, Limited Item usage (Or none at all.), Restricted to 3 Pokemon, No Items allowed to be held by your Pokemon (No Leftovers, real nice.)

It feels like tournament rules. I don't play Tournaments, so I find it to be a massive crock of [parasitic bomb] Nintendo made to make Tourneyfags be Tourneyfaggish while not playing in a Tourney.

And again, its EV Training REQUIRED. if you just kill whatever comes your way like I do you won't win, because they WILL have better stats.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on August 16, 2010, 09:43:18 PM
Agreed completely.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on August 16, 2010, 09:43:40 PM
I never bought into the whole "Psychics are too powerful" complaints back then.  While it's true that there's no real way to hit them from a type-weakness standpoint (Ghost moves sucked too, regardless of Poison hybrid status), all first-gen Psychics with the exception of Hypno had high Speed but crappy Defense.  

Yeah, a hard-hitter can take 'em down pretty good, even if there's a fair enough level distance beteween the defender and the attacker. But some Spychic pokemon have moves that can make ghosts more vunrable to non-special moves, so that's a real benefit there.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on August 16, 2010, 09:44:53 PM
I'm just saying why make him a Flying type if he can't learn any flying moves other than Bounce, which is a move that is learned by a bunch of non flyers anyway, through a move tutor.  It just makes him more vunerable for no reason.  Plus Bounce is just Fly with less accuracy, less attack power, and less PP but can Paralyze pokemon pretty well.

Think of it this way, it was either Flying or Dragon. Would you like to fight against a Water/Dragon Gyarados?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 16, 2010, 09:46:34 PM
Think of it this way, it was either Flying or Dragon. Would you like to fight against a Water/Dragon Gyarados?
Well early on no, but it's still not a pokemon I would ever use.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 16, 2010, 10:10:40 PM
Yeah, a hard-hitter can take 'em down pretty good, even if there's a fair enough level distance beteween the defender and the attacker. But some Spychic pokemon have moves that can make ghosts more vunrable to non-special moves, so that's a real benefit there.

Reminds me of some Pokemon Yellow fun that happened back in the day.

I was fighting Sabrina using my Pikachu and Snorlax, Pikachu fell to her Kadabra I think... Anyway, it was down to Snorlax and Alakazam. I had given Snorlax Metronome, and I was close to getting my ass beat. I try metronome to see if I can get anything good....

SNORLAX used TRANSFORM!

OH HELL YES!

I used Psychic on Alakazam, (Keep in mind I was close to dying.) and killed him.

Most amazing Metronome usage ever.

Too bad I was probably 9 or 10 when this happened.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on August 16, 2010, 10:16:54 PM
I used Psychic on Alakazam, (Keep in mind I was close to dying.) and killed him.

How did that even happen.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on August 16, 2010, 10:24:42 PM
How did that even happen.

A weakness error most likely. Spychics could be hit hard from other spychic moves and deal good amounts of damage to them. That or it was due to Snorlax's origional sp.attack power that helped Psychic defeat the Alakazam.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on August 16, 2010, 10:30:00 PM
But why would a sp.attack be influenced by the Attack stat? An sp.attack that would be not very effective AND against a pokemon with a high Special >_>
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 16, 2010, 10:36:11 PM
But why would a sp.attack be influenced by the Attack stat? An sp.attack that would be not very effective AND against a pokemon with a high Special >_>
It must of been very close to dying.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on August 16, 2010, 10:36:18 PM
But why would a sp.attack be influenced by the Attack stat? An sp.attack that would be not very effective AND against a pokemon with a high Special >_>

Gah, that was a post error! *fixes* ><  

It must of been very close to dying.

Either that or it was at a decent level, the snorlax was.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 16, 2010, 10:45:45 PM
How did that even happen.

Sheer Luck? I think it was a critical hit... or it was close to dying... And Snorlax was I think around lvl 60 or something.

I don't really remember other than that Alakazam was beating my ass, I used Metronome, got Transform, and killed him with Psychic.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VirusChris on August 17, 2010, 04:37:46 AM
Luck also plays a big role a battle, and boy that must've been epic when that happened! ^_^


Well I finally got off my lazy butt and started off where I left off in Soul Silver getting the Boulder Badge, Volcano Bagde, and Earth Badge finally. Honestly I was kinda stumped on how to get the Poke Flute music on the PokeGear to play to wake up that Snorlax until I went back to Lavender Town and got the upgrade on the radio part to play the flute.

Well anyway I'm close to facing off with Red, but I need to go to Oak's first to put up my Kanto starter Pokemon. And it will always be Charmander, he will always have a special place in my heart as my most favorite starter Pokemon.



After that I'm going around to collect my ideal Pokemon Team and finally do that IV and EV training on them to make them the best. And I'm not going to have Final Evolution stages of my team as I want to see how far they can go from their First or Second Stage.



And to be on topic, what new feature on Pokemon Black and White do you like so far you've heard from the announcements? Personally I'm liking all of them, but the new Dream World catches my attention. An interesting idea and looks very cool. One feature I'm sad that's not returning, or seems like it, is having your Pokemon follow you around. It makes it more special and more closer to my Pokemon who's traveling alongside me.

At least give the ability if you want your Pokemon outside of the Pokeball or not. Or well, no real loss in gameplay.

Also do you think this new "evil" team, Team Plasma, really is evil or misguided? Kinda like how Team Magma and Aqua was in Ruby and Sapphire? I'm going with the latter judging by their conversation in an article about them.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on August 17, 2010, 05:14:46 AM
Luck also plays a big role a battle, and boy that must've been epic when that happened! ^_^


Pokemon Leafgreen, only Pokemon was Charmander, beating Brock's Geodude, having like 4 HP left, Charmander getting JUST enough EXP, learning Metal Claw, rock-blocked Onix. Got Boulderbadge.

2nd playthrough, went for a bit of a challenge.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on August 17, 2010, 05:19:46 AM
Is Brock really any challenge with Charmander if it knows Ember? Because I don't remember having any trouble at all.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on August 17, 2010, 05:22:00 AM
Ember didn't do all that much damage. Unless you were like uberly overleveled. No. The only way to  beat Brock is either get a Butterfree with Confusion or have Charmander learn Metal Claw.

Or just not pick Charmander at all.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on August 17, 2010, 05:46:53 AM
There was always the fun method in Yellow that involved catching a Mankey.  You're far more likely to keep it in your party than Butterfree, too.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on August 17, 2010, 06:00:15 AM
There was always the fun method in Yellow that involved catching a Mankey.  You're far more likely to keep it in your party than Butterfree, too.

Yeah. That was real FUN.

Forgot about that.

But yeah. Catching a level 3 Caterpie and wandering in the small grass just south of Pewter for hours on end training is way easier.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 18, 2010, 07:35:25 AM
There was always the fun method in Yellow that involved catching a Mankey.  You're far more likely to keep it in your party than Butterfree, too.

Aw yeah, I had to level that Mankey up HIGH, I ended up with a Primape I think... So it was obviously disobedient. (That was before my Yellow version save got Wiped.)

Ember didn't do all that much damage. Unless you were like uberly overleveled. No. The only way to  beat Brock is either get a Butterfree with Confusion or have Charmander learn Metal Claw.

It was probably harder back in the RBY days, where Metal claw was Non-existant.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 18, 2010, 07:41:53 AM
Aw yeah, I had to level that Mankey up HIGH, I ended up with a Primape I think... So it was obviously disobedient. (That was before my Yellow version save got Wiped.)
Wait I thought that pokemon only became disobediant if you didn't originally owned them.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on August 18, 2010, 08:25:57 AM
Wait I thought that pokemon only became disobediant if you didn't originally owned them.

I thought it was if the level got too high.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on August 18, 2010, 08:50:05 AM
It's both, I think. I spammed the box feature in Pokemon Stadium, and when I traded my lv100 Charizard to a new game, he never listened. But I think if you were to somehow get to an area with high-level Pokemon (like Route 46 in G/S/C that you can get high leveled pokemon early on, with some difficulty) and caught one, it would be disobedient as well.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Ninja Lou on August 18, 2010, 12:40:13 PM
I am to lazy to look this up but is White/Black a DS or 3DS game?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on August 18, 2010, 12:53:04 PM
I think it's both. It may have some 3DS enhanced features, as it does have a DSi exclusive feature (videophone), but I think it's just a DS game.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on August 18, 2010, 01:59:21 PM
It was probably harder back in the RBY days, where Metal claw was Non-existant.

You kidding? My Charmander soloed with Ember, you only need Butterfree in Yellow for obvious reasons =/
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on August 18, 2010, 08:33:46 PM
Wait I thought that pokemon only became disobediant if you didn't originally owned them.
I thought it was if the level got too high.
It's both, I think. I spammed the box feature in Pokemon Stadium, and when I traded my lv100 Charizard to a new game, he never listened. But I think if you were to somehow get to an area with high-level Pokemon (like Route 46 in G/S/C that you can get high leveled pokemon early on, with some difficulty) and caught one, it would be disobedient as well.

^This.

He's right. If you over level or trade it over, it's disobedient. Never happened to me because I was always in the correct range.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on August 18, 2010, 09:27:45 PM
Ahem... she's right... :P
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on August 18, 2010, 10:27:04 PM
Aye. Sorry Talyn. I knew you're a girl, but I didn't pay attention to who's posting.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on August 21, 2010, 02:27:33 AM
IIRC, traded Pokemon will disobey sooner than Pokemon you catch, but even Pokemon you catch will eventually disobey if majorly over-leveled.

Yeah I never used a Gyarados, it takes too much to train it and it's never worth it.  I mean for crying out loud it's a flying type pokemon but it can't learn flying attacks not even Aerial Ace.
A good Flying Pokemon with a good Flying attack is hard to come by.  But Dragon Dance, Intimidate, and Earthquake immunity are always dangerous, even coming from a 4x Electric-weak 'man.  With physical Waterfall added to his move set, Gyarados can create a world of pain.

Quote
Honestly I like the Battle Frontier because I stay far far away from the Battle Factory myself and focus on the Battle Castle, Battle Tower, and ocassionally the Battle Arcade.
I generally hate all in-game tournaments because they always ban legendaries.  It's the same every gen; you have to buy the console game if you want unrestricted high-level opponents.  Which rather blows this generation since BR doesn't allow you to swap games and doesn't support Platinum forms/items.

It was probably harder back in the RBY days, where Metal claw was Non-existant.
Not really, because in R/B/Y, Brock had no actual Rock-type attacks, so your full and sole concern was dealing decent damage.  Further, before the G/S Special split, pretty much all Rock/Ground Pokemon had craptacular Special stats, meaning that even Ember could do a fair chunk of damage.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on August 21, 2010, 05:55:54 PM
Ah yes. I replayed Red and he's right. Ember did do some pretty decent damage.

Though I think Onix did have Rock Throw. I'm not entirely sure...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on August 31, 2010, 01:55:27 AM
I want this game~ <3

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1QtlmEy-YQ[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 01, 2010, 04:32:02 AM
I want this game~ <3

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1QtlmEy-YQ[/youtube]
I dun' get it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on September 01, 2010, 04:37:21 AM
It's a first gen fifth gen game.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 01, 2010, 07:04:35 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVGvlT69B8M[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 01, 2010, 06:19:20 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX8uV5PyK94[/youtube]

Posted on: September 01, 2010, 08:35:52 AM
(http://i51.tinypic.com/zt8bdd.jpg)(http://i53.tinypic.com/6qcrrt.jpg)(http://i56.tinypic.com/5pk4sh.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 01, 2010, 06:21:28 PM
lol looks like its the fire starter is going to be Fire/Fighting.

Again.

inb4 they're fake
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 01, 2010, 06:30:50 PM
Wotter's evo's evo's makes no sense at all. Totally called Smugleaf losing his limbs by the time of his third evo.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 01, 2010, 06:32:14 PM
LoL, his second form look sooooo awesome. His third form falters a bit. But yeah, looks like another Fire/Fighting.

Meanwhile, Smugleaf gets more and more smug with each evolution.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 01, 2010, 06:32:41 PM
Pokabu's final evo looks to be Fire/Fighting, like we haven't had enough of those already. Wotter's final evo is a dog with a shell on it's head. And Smugleaf's final evo is Smuglord.

Meanwhile, Smugleaf gets more and more smug with each evolution.

Indeed!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 01, 2010, 06:37:26 PM
Yeah. Pyre Bacon looks like he's gonna be slow as well. Hopefully he makes up for it with power.

And yes, Smuglord is the definition of smug!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 01, 2010, 06:38:09 PM
Wotter's final evo

(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/9927/1283356627193.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 01, 2010, 06:57:04 PM
(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/9927/1283356627193.jpg)

8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on September 01, 2010, 09:38:14 PM
Yup, Wotter's 3rd stage definitely makes up for it's first stage.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 02, 2010, 05:16:10 AM
(http://i51.tinypic.com/zt8bdd.jpg)(http://i53.tinypic.com/6qcrrt.jpg)(http://i56.tinypic.com/5pk4sh.jpg)

Evo's are fake and [parasitic bomb].
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on September 02, 2010, 06:05:03 AM
Another fake? of well.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 03, 2010, 12:31:53 AM
Oh thank god, I knew they weren't going to be stupid enough to have another Fire/Fighting type starter. :|
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on September 03, 2010, 10:15:42 AM
I heard that Wotter is being set up to be Water/Fighting type. Apparently he's supposed to be a wannabe samurai or something. Scenes from the next Pokemon anime show this.

I'm just repeating what I read over at PokeCommunity...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 03, 2010, 06:11:14 PM
Well. I guess I'm forced to pick Grass type as it's the only one that doesn't look like more steaming [parasitic bomb].

Seriously, I'm really hating the designs more and more with every new generation. Pokemon designs were original way back in generation 1-3, and they were good. But now it looks like they make a doodle, and say, "HEY! I GOT ANOTHER POKEMON FOR BLACK AND WHITE!"

Seriously, I don't care for moves and abilities and such, as it doesn't make a difference to me what they have, as I'll [twin slasher] with them anyways, but at least make them look good.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 03, 2010, 06:19:22 PM
Just because you think they look bad, it doesn't mean everyone does.

Besides, I hardly doubt you'll be raping anything if your previous posts are any indication of your skill.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 03, 2010, 06:22:31 PM
Just because you think they look bad, it doesn't mean everyone does.

Besides, I hardly doubt you'll be raping anything if your previous posts are any indication of your skill.

Believe it or not, I'm really good with Pokemon. And I agree with you that not everyone else does. Hence, OPINION.

And believe me, I don't like that post I just did. I tried to figure out how to make it look better, but I couldn't. So I just went "watever" and posted.

Besides, I'm kinda unable to focus on anything much now.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 04, 2010, 12:14:14 PM
So those evolutions are real after all. Apparently.

Quote from: Serebii.net
On Wednesday, these images leaked onto 2ch for the evolutions of Tsutaja, Pokabu & Mijumaru. Everyone was unsure about them until some user claimed he created them. However, with no evidence, we were all unsure as to whether they were real or fake. However, I have received confirmation that these Pokémon are in fact the evolutions of the starter Pokémon. While there's a slim chance that this is wrong, everything I have been told has turned out accurate thus far.

Quote from: PokeBeach.com
Three days ago, the webmaster of the Spanish Pokemon site Pokexperto, Melkor, received word from a "special source" that the evolutions on 2ch are real and thus posted them as such. The website has posted information from this special source before and it has turned out to be true, so I had reason to believe Melkor was telling the truth. In conferring with him today, I was able to see some of the material the source had given him, including a sprite of Tsutaaja's final evolution (which matches the photo) and a sprite of another Pokemon. To test if the source was giving Melkor genuine images and to test if Melkor was telling me the truth, I asked him to describe the appearance of the covered-up Pokemon  from the Pokemon Musical screenshot on the official Black and White website; he gave me a very specific description of it on the spot, and I'll just say one word: eyebrows. If the description he gave me is true, his source and the starters below will be validated. Regardless, you obviously have the choice to believe the legitimacy of these evolutions or not; after all, nothing is totally official until Nintendo reveals them.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 04, 2010, 04:35:14 PM
So those evolutions are real after all. Apparently.

Well [tornado fang].

Good thing. I like Smuglord. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 04, 2010, 07:24:51 PM
So those evolutions are real after all. Apparently.

This guy, however, disagrees (http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/01/bw-rumors-iv/comment-page-1/#comment-9320).
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 04, 2010, 07:26:05 PM
Joe, however, disagrees (http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/01/bw-rumors-iv/comment-page-1/#comment-9320).

The link to his "website" is [tornado fang]ing 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 04, 2010, 08:15:21 PM
Speaking of which:

(http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/koromori_evo.jpg)

Some dude found it on PokeJungle.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on September 04, 2010, 10:36:00 PM
Speaking of which:

(http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/koromori_evo.jpg)

Some dude found it on PokeJungle.
Looks a lot better than its pre-evolved form, I must say.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Night on September 05, 2010, 03:08:31 AM
Speaking of which:

(http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/koromori_evo.jpg)

Some dude found it on PokeJungle.

Do want!  0v0
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on September 08, 2010, 10:20:07 AM
I'm afraid those evos are actually fake. Here's a very well-done post I'm jackin' from PokéCommunity explaining why.

Quote from: Zackraa
In the 4chan confession the guy had posted posted  the evos pictures which he took with a DoCoMo brand japanese cell phone  he then posted a picture of his cell phone which was taken by a Sanyo  camera

(http://a.imageshack.us/img442/3485/1283651767776.th.png) (http://a.imageshack.us/img442/3485/1283651767776.png)

Below pictures show how amateur the art actually is and how he paid no  attention to the original sketches not to insult the poor troll but he  is no Ken Sugimori.
(http://a.imageshack.us/img838/5315/serebiiquote.th.jpg) (http://a.imageshack.us/img838/5315/serebiiquote.jpg) (http://a.imageshack.us/img441/5/1283735695350.th.jpg) (http://a.imageshack.us/img441/5/1283735695350.jpg) (http://a.imageshack.us/img202/5657/1283802533607.th.gif) (http://a.imageshack.us/img202/5657/1283802533607.gif)

This was posted on pokexperto as proof that they are real but were later  taken down because pokabu's full evo's name in that picture is Mijumaru  and his base stats in HP are lower than that of pokabu's, which makes  no sense for something that bulky.
(http://a.imageshack.us/img225/8273/1283668567813.th.jpg) (http://a.imageshack.us/img225/8273/1283668567813.jpg)

The only evidence we have been provided with is that these images were  posted on 2ch a japanese forum, pokexperto says they have an "inside  informant" which is about as believable to me as "my uncle works at  nintendo" and now pokejungle has posted a sprite found on 4chan saying  that there is evidence that it is real, which.. by the way they have not  provided us with.

Quote from: Kimicatdemon
Oh I have seen that last picture some where  before....

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1395149/dsfake.gif)

Oh... right.... They used that same picture with the Chimecho evolution  and just skewed it around for a bit...and adjusted some curves in  photoshop. The shadows are in the exact same place. The website was  probably changed and added on via photoshop as well.

Not attacking, just throwing this out there.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 08, 2010, 10:31:55 AM
I'm afraid those evos are actually fake.

BUT SEREBII CONFIRMED IT! He has a secret source and has never been wro-

(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/2125/2nqgqxe.png)

-never mind.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: nobody on September 08, 2010, 10:40:37 AM
(http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/4917/1283934560080.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on September 08, 2010, 01:43:40 PM
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/1283945799342.jpg)
40/40
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 08, 2010, 01:50:07 PM
BUT SEREBII CONFIRMED IT! He has a secret source and has never been wro-

(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/2125/2nqgqxe.png)

-never mind.

Using my screencap, huh? 8D

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/1283945799342.jpg)
40/40

Seeing how they gave Nintendogs or some [parasitic bomb] like that a perfect score, like I'm gonna trust Famitsu.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 09, 2010, 12:03:27 AM
Guys I don't feel like looking through the thread, or googling, I just want some official art oft he female trainer so I can make some porn now.

SOMEONE LINK ME.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 09, 2010, 01:37:45 AM
Guys I don't feel like looking through the thread, or googling, I just want some official art oft he female trainer so I can make some porn now.

SOMEONE LINK ME.

(http://i51.tinypic.com/2lxtlwj.png)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 09, 2010, 01:38:37 AM
Thanks bro.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on September 09, 2010, 02:08:52 AM
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2lxtlwj.png)
"Boy"... "Girl"... Gee, how creative. They could've just called them "Black" and "White".
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 09, 2010, 04:44:40 AM
But then I might have thought one of them was a trap.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on September 09, 2010, 09:10:50 AM
[spoiler](http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/dakirbymaster/94630c12b1881fab4177da4.png)[/spoiler]
Now one is... maybe. :D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 10, 2010, 12:33:12 AM
Figured this should go here too.
Have at you (http://radlionheart.deviantart.com/art/Female-Trainer-Ass-178682139)

8U
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 10, 2010, 12:43:51 AM
Now it completely shows that Black (Boy) is completely underraited. Damn you nintendo for making male trainers under-appreciative these days!  >_<

Aside from that, what new moves will be in store for us? Will we see some moves from Pokemon TCG? That has happened at least once..
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on September 10, 2010, 05:16:07 AM
But then I might have thought one of them was a trap.

durr hurr hurr

(http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/3334/whiteppc.png)

what do you mean i have no idea.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 10, 2010, 05:21:12 AM
Oh you.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 10, 2010, 04:43:05 PM
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2lxtlwj.png)

What is it with Nintendo's almost 20 year old, "good lookin' 10-year-old" fetish?

[spoiler](http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/dakirbymaster/94630c12b1881fab4177da4.png)[/spoiler]
Now one is... maybe. :D


I rest my case.

Even if the picture is not official.

NOW IF IT WAS.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 10, 2010, 05:02:57 PM
They're older than 10 this time.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 10, 2010, 07:57:31 PM
They're older than 10 this time.

BLASPHEMY. THIS IS POKEMON.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 10, 2010, 09:55:14 PM
BLASPHEMY. THIS IS POKEMON.

No.. THIS.. IS.. NNNIIINTTEEENNDDOOOO!!! *kicks into pit*

All in seriousness, Black better be useful in the Pokemon Special. I felt Dia was just a comedy item, and Ruby was kinda -nerdy-.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 11, 2010, 01:46:54 AM
No.. THIS.. IS.. NNNIIINTTEEENNDDOOOO!!! *kicks into pit*

All in seriousness, Black better be useful in the Pokemon Special. I felt Dia was just a comedy item, and Ruby was kinda -nerdy-.

Also applies to Gold. Or as 4kids knows him, Jimmy.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on September 11, 2010, 02:28:55 AM
Also applies to Gold. Or as 4kids knows him, Jimmy.
Screw 4Kids, the only thing they did right was the TMNT series.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 11, 2010, 02:33:47 AM
All in seriousness, Black better be useful in the Pokemon Special. I felt Dia was just a comedy item

You do remember that Dia and Pearl were comedians right?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 11, 2010, 02:38:19 AM
Screw 4Kids, yet another thing they screwed up was the TMNT series.

Fixed.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 11, 2010, 02:43:34 AM
You do remember that Dia and Pearl were comedians right?

Yes, but I felt they could have 1up'd Red any chance they got. It's been awhile since we saw a main as awesome as him.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 11, 2010, 07:19:53 AM
So...if the scans are real, then the artwork of the evos is fake, BUT, still accurate so far -___-
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 11, 2010, 08:02:11 AM
So...if the scans are real, then the artwork of the evos is fake, BUT, still accurate so far -___-

People are just bitching because they hate the starter evo's.

Posted on: September 11, 2010, 12:56:45 AM
Anyway,

(http://i54.tinypic.com/2e5t64l.jpg)(http://i51.tinypic.com/2ev7ywm.jpg)(http://i53.tinypic.com/71skfa.jpg)

Dento (Grass), Poddo (Fire), and Kon (Water) are the Sanyou City Gym Leaders. As stated in the previous post, the Gym specializes in Grass, Fire, and Water. Depending on the Starter Pokemon you choose, you will face the Gym Leader of the type that is stronger than you (like when you battle your rival in previous games). They will use their elemental monkeys and possibly other Pokemon of their type.

Jyanobii - Tsutarja evolution - Grass - Grass Snake Pokemon - 0.8m - 16.0kg - Overgrow

Chaobuu - Pokabu's evolution - Fire/Fighting - Fire Pig Pokemon - 1.0m - 55.5kg - Blaze

Futachimaru - Mijumaru's evolution - Water - Meditation Pokemon - 0.8m - 24.5kg - Torrent

Baoppu - Fire - High Temperature Pokemon - 0.6m - 11.0kg - New move called "Flame Burst" which damages nearby opponents.

Hiyappu - Water - Water Pouring Pokemon - 0.6m - 13.5kg - New move called "Boiling Water" which is Water-type move but can Burn.

(http://i52.tinypic.com/10e3fra.jpg)
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2w33sjb.jpg)

Basurao - Violent Pokemon - Water - Reckless/Adaptability - Has two formes, as shown.

Yorterrie - Puppy Pokemon (based on a Yorkie) - Normal - Pick-Up

Choroneko - Ill Natured Pokemon - Dark - Limber/Unburden

Desukan - Coffin Pokémon - Ghost - Mummy

Ononokusu - Jaw Horn Pokemon - Dragon - Rivalry/Mold Breaker

Denchura - Electric Spider Pokemon - Bug/Electric - Compoundeyes/Anxiety

Doryuuzu - Deep Earth Pokemon - Ground/Steel - Sand Scatter/Sand Power

Baffalon - Headbutting Cattle Pokemon - Normal - Reckless/Herbivore

Dangoro - Mantle Pokemon - Rock - Sturdy

Mebukijika - Shikijika's evolution - Seasonal Pokemon - Normal/Grass - Herbivore/Chlorophyll

Tabunne - Listening Pokemon - Normal - Healing Heart/Regeneration - Chansey of this region?

Monmen - Cotton Ball Pokemon - Grass - Mischievous Heart/Slip Through

Churine - Stump Pokemon - Grass - Chlorophyll/Own Tempo

Tamageruke - Mushroom Pokemon - Grass/Poison - Effect Spore

Source (http://pokebeach.com/2010/09/september-corocoro-apparently-leaking)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 11, 2010, 08:04:36 AM
The only thing I want to [sonic slicer] about is having another fire/fighter, I actually liked most of the evos.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 11, 2010, 08:08:53 AM
The only thing I want to [sonic slicer] about is having another fire/fighter, I actually liked most of the evos.
Same with me, I mean for crying out loud Infernape is cheap enough.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 11, 2010, 08:10:54 AM
another fire/fighter

I'll go ahead and quote Archer and myself;

Archer says:
*>FIRE/FIGHTING
*HAHAHAHAHA
Kyouya says:
*8D

Btw, added more info to my previous post.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 11, 2010, 08:23:13 AM
These Pokemans are actually lookin' pretty cool if you ask me.
Except I'm starting to lean toward the grass starter this generation.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 11, 2010, 08:29:29 AM
Wait we get a mushroom pokemon that looks like a pokeball?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 11, 2010, 08:30:24 AM
Wait we get a mushroom pokemon that looks like a pokeball?

Yes, like how we got two giant Pokeballs with faces in the first gen games.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 11, 2010, 08:31:05 AM
So if these are real then the leaks are pretty much confirmed I guess. Which means I NEED that puppy pokemon, its evos have a mustache, there's no way I'm not having a dog with a mustache in my party.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 11, 2010, 08:32:02 AM
I want the black version of Tauros. DAT FRO.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 11, 2010, 08:36:05 AM
I'd catch dat 'fro.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 11, 2010, 08:37:41 AM
I'd catch dat 'fro.

8D

Quote from: PokeBeach
Update #5 (11:30) - The starter evolution page does not match the rest of the pages, but we're keeping it up for now since it was leaked at the same time and by the same person.

what is this i don't even

Now the [parasitic bomb] storms on other sites will continue...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 11, 2010, 08:40:42 AM
Does not match? It looks like it matches to me.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 11, 2010, 12:51:05 PM
Okay, starter evo's are real. I'm sure Sparky, Wily II, and everyone on GameFAQs, 4Chan, etc are raging about it.

(http://i53.tinypic.com/w8xev9.jpg)

Pages 2 and 3

The Plasma guy with the eyepiece is named Geechisu - he has been seen in various trailers.

The second town is named Garaku Town. This is where you meet Geechisu.

N has a Choroneko (the Dark-type cat).

(http://i54.tinypic.com/25s0xeo.jpg)

Pages 4 and 5

Yanappu - Grass - Grass Monkey Pokemon - 0.6m - 10.5kg - Gluttony. It knows Acrobat.

Baoppu - Fire - High Temperature Pokemon - 0.6m - 11.0kg - Gluttony. Knows a new move called "Flame Burst" which damages nearby opponents.

Hiyappu - Water - Wave Splash Pokemon - 0.6m - 13.5kg - Gluttony. Knows a new move called "Boiling Water" which is Water-type but can Burn.

Emonga - Electric/Flying - Flying Squirrel Pokemon - 0.4m - 5.0kg. Has a new attack called "Eleci Ball" that increases in damage depending on your speed in comparison to the opponent's speed.

One of Victini's new attacks is named Flame Sphere and it inflicts Burn. It hits all Pokemon on the field, even your own.

(http://i53.tinypic.com/34fcrv9.jpg)

Pages 6 and 7

Basurao - Violent Pokemon - Water - Reckless / Adaptability. Has two forms, as shown in the scan; the form you encounter depends on the version you have.

Yorterrie - Puppy Pokemon - Normal - Vital Spirit / Pick-Up. Based on a Yorkie. Has a new attack called "Cheer Up" which raises its Attack and Special Attack.

Choroneko - Bad Cat Pokemon - Dark - Limber / Acrobatic. The "Acrobatic" ability is not to be confused with Yanppu's Acrobat attack. N owns a Choroneko.

Desukaan - Coffin Pokemon - Ghost - Mummy. When attacked, the attacking Pokemon's ability is turned into Mummy as well. The Japanese for the ability sounds like "Mirror" so it's a pun because the ability keeps reflecting.

Ononokusu - Chin Horn Pokemon - Dragon - Rivalry / Mold Breaker. Has a new attack called "Dragon Tail" but we can't make out the effect - it has something to do with the opponent's next turn. It might force them to switch Pokemon like Roar or Whirlwind.

Denchura - Electric Spider Pokemon - Bug/Electric - Compoundeyes / Tension. Its "Tension" ability prevents the opponent's Pokemon from eating Berries.

Doryuuzu - Earth's Core Pokemon - Ground/Steel - Sand Gun / Sand Power. It knows a Ground-type attack called "Drill Liner" which has a high critical hit rate.

(http://i52.tinypic.com/25ilpb5.jpg)

Pages 8 and 9

Buffalon - Headbutt Cow Pokemon - Normal - Reckless / Herbivore. Knows a new attack called "Afro Break" which is a sort of Counter attack. It has an afro and its name is a pun on this, which is where "Afro" Break comes from. Only Buffalon knows this attack.

Dangoro - Mantle Pokemon - Rock - Sturdy. Has a new attack called "Drop Down" where it knocks Flying-types out of the sky, though it causes recoil damage.

Mebukijika - Shikijika's evolution - Season Pokemon - Normal/Grass - Herbivore / Chlorophyll. Its appearance changes with the season like its pre-evolution.

Tabunne - Healing Pokemon - Normal - Healing Heart / Regenerate. It knows a new attack called "Heal Wave" which restores its allies' HP. The Chansey / Nurse Joy Pokemon of this region?

Monmen - Cotton Ball Pokemon - Grass - Mischievous Heart / Pickpocket. Only available in Black.

Churine - Root Pokemon - Grass - Chlorophyll / Own Tempo. Only available in White. It has an attack called "Clear Smoke" that resets status changes.

Tamagetake - Mushroom Pokemon - Grass / Poison - Effect Spore - It's got a freakin' Poke Ball mushroom on its head. Since it looks like a Poke Ball, it surprises his opponents; that's where the "tamage" in his name comes (from "tamageru," to surprise). Obviously the Voltorb of this region.

(http://i51.tinypic.com/2z9l077.jpg)

Pages 14 and 15

Jyanobii - Tsutarja evolution - Grass - Grass Snake Pokemon - 0.8m - 16.0kg - Overgrow

Chaobuu - Pokabu's evolution - Fire/Fighting - Fire Pig Pokemon - 1.0m - 55.5kg - Blaze

Futachimaru - Mijumaru's evolution - Water - Meditation Pokemon - 0.8m - 24.5kg - Torrent
Since the above evolutions turned out to be real, that means the final stages (http://pokebeach.com/2010/09/isshu-starter-evolutions-apparently-leaked-blue-yanappu) that were leaked with them are real as well.

Reshiram's signature attack is Cross Fire while Zekrom's is Cross Thunder. Apparently when one Pokemon is hit by the other's attack the other's signature attack becomes more powerful. These attacks were seen in a commercial (http://pokebeach.com/2010/08/black-white-wii-commercials-reveal-many-new-scenes) last week.

(http://i56.tinypic.com/2w1xtnp.jpg)

Dento (Grass), Poddo (Fire), and Kon (Water) are the Sanyou City Gym Leaders. As stated in the previous post, the Gym specializes in Grass, Fire, and Water. Depending on the Starter Pokemon you choose, you will face the Gym Leader of the type that is stronger than you (like when you battle your rival in previous games). They will use their elemental monkeys and possibly other Pokemon of their type.

The magazine is recommending to use Chaobuu, Pokabu's first evolution, against Aloe. Since it's part Fighting it has super effective attacks against her Normal-types.

(http://i51.tinypic.com/2crpljt.jpg)

Pages 32 and 33

In the Dream World you encounter Pokemon on Dream Island. Different Pokemon are in different areas, such as Aerodactyl in the sky and Lotad in ponds. You can capture Pokemon without even playing the actual games, then transfer them over when you're done.

(http://i51.tinypic.com/2qld7ba.jpg)(http://i52.tinypic.com/2em0wgo.jpg)

(http://i55.tinypic.com/1j94pz.jpg)

Source (http://pokebeach.com/2010/09/september-corocoro-apparently-leaking)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 11, 2010, 05:39:16 PM
Wily II,

Nah, the only kinda-rage thing he said was that how can an otter end up becoming a unicorn thing XD

Dento (Grass), Poddo (Fire), and Kon (Water) are the Sanyou City Gym Leaders. As stated in the previous post, the Gym specializes in Grass, Fire, and Water. Depending on the Starter Pokemon you choose, you will face the Gym Leader of the type that is stronger than you (like when you battle your rival in previous games). They will use their elemental monkeys and possibly other Pokemon of their type.

Well now that's quite interesting, I was expecting a triple battle.

Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 11, 2010, 05:41:57 PM
People are still arguing that the starter evos are fake.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 11, 2010, 05:44:33 PM
Hmm since Dento, Poddo, and Kon are the grass/fire/water gym does that mean there won't be another one along the way?   And wait a minute what the heck is N's role now?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 11, 2010, 05:46:15 PM
Nah, the only kinda-rage thing he said was that how can an otter end up becoming a unicorn thing XD

Indeed. Yet, he read those Pokemon Peer interviews or whatever.

People are still arguing that the starter evos are fake.

[parasitic bomb] is making me lol.

And wait a minute what the heck is N's role now?

There's a rumor going around that his real name is North and that he has a brother named South who is the Champion of the Pokemon League, and they also have two sisters named East and West.

......Yeah.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 11, 2010, 05:48:39 PM
[parasitic bomb] is making me lol.
Is it me or does this remind me of the Sonic fans?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 11, 2010, 05:51:08 PM
There's a rumor going around that his real name is North and that he has a brother named South who is the Champion of the Pokemon League, and they also have two sisters name East and West.

......Yeah.

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Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 11, 2010, 05:51:33 PM
|:

Yep. |:
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 11, 2010, 05:52:04 PM
There's a rumor going around that his real name is North and that he has a brother named South who is the Champion of the Pokemon League, and they also have two sisters named East and West.

......Yeah.
Wat?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 11, 2010, 05:53:40 PM
Wat?

>N
>Real name is North
>Has a brother named South
>South is the Champion of the Pokemon League
>Also has two sisters, East and West

[tornado fang] yeah, rumors. :v
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on September 11, 2010, 05:56:16 PM
...Wow theme naming at it´s finest :D

Anyways am I the only one who likes that Mummy pokemon...IT´S A FRIGGIN MUMMY! It´s awesome!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 11, 2010, 05:57:25 PM
Anyways am I the only one who likes that Mummy pokemon...

No, pretty much everyone does.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 11, 2010, 06:00:33 PM
[tornado fang] yeah, rumors. :v

I hate stupid rumors.

Especially when they turn out to be true.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 11, 2010, 06:28:02 PM
I hate stupid rumors.

Especially when they turn out to be true.

8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 11, 2010, 06:32:13 PM
People are still arguing that the starter evos are fake.

Well, the leaked art WAS fake and wrong if these are real though, but yeah, people are in denial.


Also, the page 14 and 15 scan looks really [tornado fang]ing weird. Seriously, the page numbers are completely different, not to mention backwards (should be 15<-14 not 14->15), Reshiram's art somehow makes it to the next page completely undistorted, etc.


>N
>Real name is North
>Has a brother named South
>South is the Champion of the Pokemon League
>Also has two sisters, East and West

[tornado fang] yeah, rumors. :v

I can see that happening XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 11, 2010, 06:42:30 PM
Also, the page 14 and 15 scan looks really [tornado fang]ing weird. Seriously, the page numbers are completely different, not to mention backwards (should be 15<-14 not 14->15), Reshiram's art somehow makes it to the next page completely undistorted, etc.

Because its the two pages shopped together.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 11, 2010, 06:46:23 PM
The Reshiram and different image for the numbers still bothers me.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 11, 2010, 06:53:03 PM
Maybe one of the pages is fake :v
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 11, 2010, 07:29:42 PM
Pokemon, one of the most confusing plootss, that's all we writers can do.
You'll teach me and I'll teach you, how to write baaaaaaadddly~
Gotta Catch 'Em All, Gotta Catch 'Em All, Pokemon!

Well, now the plot officially makes me go "wut".

Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 11, 2010, 07:32:38 PM
Pokemon, one of the most confusing plootss, that's all we writers can do.
You'll teach me and I'll teach you, how to write baaaaaaadddly~
Gotta Catch 'Em All, Gotta Catch 'Em All, Pokemon!

Well, now the plot officially makes me go "wut".



Yeah. I'm way confused.

Not to mention, THREE GYM LEADERS?

Wat.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 11, 2010, 07:35:13 PM
Not to mention, THREE GYM LEADERS?

Wat.

Oh Thanatos.

Gen3, two gym leaders, double battles, etc.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 11, 2010, 07:36:31 PM
Pokemon, one of the most confusing plootss, that's all we writers can do.
You'll teach me and I'll teach you, how to write baaaaaaadddly~
Gotta Catch 'Em All, Gotta Catch 'Em All, Pokemon!

Well, now the plot officially makes me go "wut".

Your annoyingly stupid posts make me go |:

Yeah. I'm way confused.

Not surprising.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 11, 2010, 07:42:55 PM
I'm more confused by someone being confused at the plot of Pokemon of all things than by the plot itself.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 11, 2010, 08:22:02 PM
Pokemon has a plot?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on September 11, 2010, 08:27:55 PM
To be the best, like no one ever was.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 11, 2010, 08:28:25 PM
Pokemon has a plot?

Yeah. You enslave small animals with superpowers to do your bidding. Have them fight each other to the death. Defeat some evil orginization who does the same as you do, only worse, and then kill the most powerful small superpowered animals in the region. Then you win!

To be the best, like no one ever was.

Or this.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 11, 2010, 08:30:18 PM
To be the best, like no one ever was.

Catching them is your real test, training them is your cause and [parasitic bomb].
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 11, 2010, 08:34:18 PM
Gen 5's plot seemed to me more confusing than the previous gens. I mean, Team Hypocrits running around? Gym Leaders who dress like housekeepers? An event that REQUIRES the previous gen's remake game? WTF.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 11, 2010, 08:36:15 PM
Gen 5's plot seemed to me more confusing than the previous gens. I mean, Team Hypocrits running around? Gym Leaders who dress like housekeepers? An event that REQUIRES the previous gen's remake game? WTF.

|:
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 11, 2010, 08:37:54 PM
|:

|:

This update will bound to confuse people on DA, 4chan, and other places.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on September 13, 2010, 01:11:06 AM
This topic explains that the evos are fake (mostly), Isshu is NY, and other things.

You know, this one. (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=231828)

Of interest is the interview on Page 2.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gary Loaki on September 13, 2010, 01:16:09 AM
apparently there's a pure ice evolution line based on...

ice cream.

edit; also, apparently smugleaf3 and wotter3 are confirmed fakes.

no word about pignite3, though.

editedit;

apparently the dark/ground crocodile has a full evolution line. his second form stands on his hind legs, while the third becomes slightly larger than the second, and red.

lolrumors.

editeditedit;

related.

[spoiler](http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5508/buffafro.jpg)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 13, 2010, 01:22:14 AM
Rumours are so fun!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 13, 2010, 01:27:55 AM
Great, now we need a pokemon game that takes place in the underworld! XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on September 13, 2010, 02:06:12 AM
ALL THE RUMORS SHALL BE ANSWERED...

ON THE 18TH!!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: SUIKA on September 13, 2010, 02:59:57 AM
..Oh.

I logged on today expecting all this info to be out because I thought the games were out this weekend and not the next. Hahhh.. Not that I'm complaining. Now this means that I won't be receiving my copies late. In regards to that, I could still get both games if I wanted to have no money this week.

I'm excited.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 13, 2010, 04:04:44 AM
They're released on the 18th? I'll have to mark my calendar.
And by that I mean, remember manually because I don't have a calendar to mark.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 13, 2010, 04:09:42 AM
They're released on the 18th? I'll have to mark my calendar.
And by that I mean, remember manually because I don't have a calendar to mark.

Wait. The 18th? Hm. I was way off.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on September 13, 2010, 04:10:50 AM
The Japanese versions come out on the 18th. Other regions I have no idea about.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 13, 2010, 04:14:03 AM
Spring next year IIRC
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 13, 2010, 04:19:51 AM
Japanese or not, I will play the [parasitic bomb] out of these games.
BOTH OF THEM, AT THE SAME TIME ON ONE DS.
Don't ask me how I will do it, I will find a way.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 13, 2010, 04:22:28 AM
Japanese or not, I will play the [parasitic bomb] out of these games.
BOTH OF THEM, AT THE SAME TIME ON ONE DS.
Don't ask me how I will do it, I will find a way.

SUM EMULATOR ACTION UP IN DIS.


Me, however, I'll wait until the english release. When I'm playing, I like to know what I'm doing.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 13, 2010, 07:26:44 AM
Me, however, I'll wait until the english release. When I'm playing, I like to know what I'm doing.

Oh, like its hard to figure out.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 13, 2010, 07:32:30 AM
Oh, like its hard to figure out.

Point taken.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 13, 2010, 08:00:57 AM
SUM EMULATOR ACTION UP IN DIS.


Me, however, I'll wait until the english release. When I'm playing, I like to know what I'm doing.
NOP NO EMULATION REQUIRED BRO.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 15, 2010, 08:59:33 PM
(http://i52.tinypic.com/5eackl.jpg)

First Gym: Grass, Fire or Water (Dento, Podda and Koon)
Second gym: Normal (Aloe)
Third gym: Bug
Fourth Gym: Electric
Fifth gym: Ground
Sixth Gym: Flying
Seventh Gym: Ice
Eighth gym: Dragon (Iris)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 15, 2010, 09:00:54 PM
(Iris)

I told ya she'd be a gym leader.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on September 15, 2010, 09:07:29 PM
There's no Dark Gym? Boo. :(
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 16, 2010, 01:59:37 AM
Iris is the 8th leader? Well, that'll be amusing to see in the anime...wait a [tornado fang]ing second, unless my eyes deceive me or the manual doesn't bother to tell you now for some reason, there's no mention at all of HMs in there. Am I looking to much into it or does that mean they changed at least something about HMs?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 16, 2010, 02:04:34 AM
(http://i52.tinypic.com/5eackl.jpg)

First Gym: Grass, Fire or Water (Dento, Podda and Koon)
Second gym: Normal (Aloe)
Third gym: Bug
Fourth Gym: Electric
Fifth gym: Ground
Sixth Gym: Flying
Seventh Gym: Ice
Eighth gym: Dragon (Iris)

That one girl, second from the bottom on the right hand side, her face and hair remind me of Erza from Fairy Tail for some reason.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 16, 2010, 02:44:36 AM
Iris is the 8th Gym Leader? Who knew. Looks like the anime (Best Wishes) is going back to the origional fourmla (where Ash hung out with TWO gym leaders), and most likely not a solo once Iris meets up with him.

..Wait a second, is that Vocaloid Lily? (above the girl above Iris)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on September 16, 2010, 03:17:04 AM
To that fifth gym leader I must say, "YEEEEEEEEEE HAWWWWWWWW!"
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 16, 2010, 09:36:23 AM
Some more info from PokeBeach:

1st Gym: Dento, Poddo, and Kon - Grass, Fire, Water - Tri Badge - Sanyou City. All Pokemon up to Level 20 will obey.

2nd Gym: Aloe - Normal - Basic Badge - Shippou City. All Pokemon up to Level 30 will obey.

3rd Gym: Aati - Bug - Beetle Badge - Hiun City. All Pokemon up to Level 40 will obey.

4th Gym: Kamitsure - Electric - Bolt Badge - Raimon City. All Pokemon up to Level 50 will obey.

5th Gym: Yakon - Ground - Quake Badge - Hodomoe City. All Pokemon up to Level 60 will obey.

6th Gym: Furou - Flying - Jet Badge - Fukiyosa City. All Pokemon up to Level 70 will obey.

7th Gym: Hachiku - Ice - Icicle Badge - Sekka City. All Pokemon up to Level 80 will obey.

8th Gym: Iris / Shaga - Dragon - Legend Badge - Souryuu City. All Pokemon will obey.

The PC only has eight Pokemon storage boxes.

The HM's in the game are Cut, Fly, Surf, Strength, Waterfall, and Dive.

You can see the silhouetted images of the Gym Leader's badges here (http://i56.tinypic.com/1zd8zt4.jpg).

The game guides (http://i52.tinypic.com/xmpf04.jpg) show that Black version has Iris as its eighth Gym Leader while White has an old man named Shaga (http://i52.tinypic.com/35iq00m.jpg) as its eighth Gym Leader; Shaga was shown next to Iris in a commercial the other week. Be sure to see our previous post for information on all the Gym Leaders. There are a total of 11 Gym Leaders in eight Gyms.


I lol'd at the fact that Iris is the last gym leader in Black, while an old white guy is the last gym leader in White. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 16, 2010, 03:10:49 PM
(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4986/jyarohda.jpg)

So, Smuglord is real.

I am happy.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 16, 2010, 03:28:57 PM
(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4986/jyarohda.jpg)

So, Smuglord is real.

I am happy.

As am I. <3

Posted on: September 16, 2010, 08:25:25 AM
(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/975/daikenki.jpg)

8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 16, 2010, 03:54:21 PM
(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4986/jyarohda.jpg)

So, Smuglord is real.

I am happy.


^This
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 16, 2010, 05:12:26 PM
(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7600/finalfirebigger.jpg)

This guy is real too.

But that should have been obvious by now.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: The Blind Archer on September 16, 2010, 08:34:09 PM
'Stache battle?

(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/8089/12846570461490655544.jpg)

'Stache battle.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 16, 2010, 08:59:08 PM
All Black and White Pokemon sprites here (http://www.pokexperto.net/index2.php?seccion=nds/blanco_negro/isshu_pokedex).

Edit: oh wow, an internal server error already. lol
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 16, 2010, 09:01:09 PM
Site's giving me a 404.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 16, 2010, 09:06:34 PM
Site's giving me a 404.

Yeah, there's a lot of traffic on the site. Seems to be working now, I don't know for how long though. Try refreshing.

Posted on: September 16, 2010, 02:05:33 PM
Serebii (http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml) also has them up. As does PokeBeach (http://pokebeach.com/2010/09/all-isshu-pokemon-sprites).
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 16, 2010, 09:24:14 PM
These are pretty cool Pokemans if you ask me.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 16, 2010, 09:34:57 PM
Indeed, [tornado fang] the haters, this gen is great.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on September 16, 2010, 09:36:49 PM
Whoa... They has a pure flying-type!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 16, 2010, 09:39:00 PM
Now imagine if it uses Roost XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on September 16, 2010, 10:00:59 PM
Well I admit there are some very unusual Pokemon this generation (an ice-cream cone, what the [tornado fang]?) but I'm digging most of the designs. Plus, it will be a breath of fresh air after having to suffer Geodudes and Zubats every new game.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackhook on September 16, 2010, 10:04:37 PM
Not bad, most of them are pretty cool...just the lack of sword mons dissapoints me...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 16, 2010, 10:34:46 PM
'Stache battle?

(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/8089/12846570461490655544.jpg)

'Stache battle.

Twill be the battle of the century, my friend.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on September 16, 2010, 10:42:48 PM
Other than another [tornado fang]ing Fire/Fighting type. Starters are kinda cool.

Smuglord should be part dragon once it loses its legs. :| It looks like Milotic and Dragonair combined.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 16, 2010, 10:48:41 PM
Other than another [tornado fang]ing Fire/Fighting type. Starters are kinda cool.

Smuglord should be part dragon once it loses its legs. :| It looks like Milotic and Dragonair combined.

Only green and.... smug.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: GameSaver on September 16, 2010, 10:52:51 PM
oh my god these are some kick ass pokemon like holy [parasitic bomb] is that a knight pokemon AND a Ghidorah one yes it is, hell yes it is
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 17, 2010, 12:38:04 AM
Hmm the designs look a bit iffy to me but I think I can use Enbuoo, Zeburaika, and Kenhorou for the elite 4 and figure out the rest later.  The fighting types look really really weird to me but Kirikizan seems to make up for it by being a power ranger samurai, though it sucks that he's a Dark/Steel. 

Am I the only one that thinks PB will have a partiality to Warubiaru the red Dark/Ground desert croc?

Also since there are 2 dragon gym leaders now how's that going to work with Iris in the anime?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on September 17, 2010, 01:34:12 AM
There are some bizarre ones, but yeah, I like most of the designs.

I couldn't help but notice a lot of odd Speed stats in the list (lots of 101's and a few 111's).  I swear Nintendo is deliberately trying to throw the Shoddy battlers for a loop, not that I mind.

AND a Ghidorah
That's it, I am nicknaming my next Scyther/Scizor, "Gigan".
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on September 17, 2010, 01:40:17 AM
There are some bizarre ones, but yeah, I like most of the designs.

I couldn't help but notice a lot of odd Speed stats in the list (lots of 101's and a few 111's).  I swear Nintendo is deliberately trying to throw the Shoddy battlers for a loop, not that I mind.
Yeah I noticed that too and Smuglord has some very weird stats.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: borockman on September 17, 2010, 02:44:59 AM
I have to say this gen pokemons looks even more awesome than the previous one.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 17, 2010, 02:45:28 AM
Looking back, yeah. I have to say, I was wrong when I said the pokemon look stupid.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on September 17, 2010, 04:34:50 AM
YES, WE FINALLY GOT A POLAR BEAR!!!  8)

That said, I figured there would have been a few more ice types, but they've always been more on the scarce side, so I'm not really disappointed.  The polar bear's stats are kinda questionable, as ice isn't too great of a defensive type.  I don't know what his ability is, though, so we'll see how this goes.  Web Spider, Ice Cream, and Ice Dragon look interesting too.

Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Night on September 17, 2010, 04:45:33 AM
Look at all the super cool steel types!  *o*

Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 17, 2010, 06:47:53 AM
Quote
Details Within
 
# 23:15; First Elite Four member; Shikimi. She has Level 48 Desukan, Lv. 48 Burunkeru, Lv. 48 Goruggo and Lv. 50 Shandeera. She is a Ghost trainer
# 23:20; Second Elite Four member; Giima. He has a Lv. 48 Zuruzukin, Lv. 48 Warubiaru, Lv. 48 Leparudusu & Lv. 50 Kirikizan. He is a Dark trainer
# 23:24; Third Elite Four member; Katorena. She has a Lv. 48 Rankurusu, Lv. 48 Musharna, Lv. 48 Shinbora and Lv. 50 Gochiruzeru. She is a Psychic trainer
# 23:29; Final Elite Four member; Renbu. He has a Lv. 48 Nageki, Lv. 48 Dageki, Lv. 48 Roopushin & Lv. 50 Kojondo. He is a Fighting trainer
# 23:37; If we're reading this right, Belle is the champion. She has Lv. 66 Murando, Lv. 66 Yanakki, Lv. 66 Musharna & Lv. 70 Enbouu. Her Pokémon will obviously vary depending on your starter Pokémon.

(http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/e4-shikimi.jpg)
(http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/e4-giima.jpg)
(http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/e4-katorea.jpg)
(http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/e4-renbu.jpg)

It's nice to have your rival be the champion again, but HOLY [tornado fang]ing [parasitic bomb] at that level jump from E4 to champion o___O
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 17, 2010, 08:47:09 AM
So maybe Cheren the Champion if you pick the other gender?

Posted on: September 17, 2010, 04:52:28 PM
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3958/cynthiainisshu.jpg)

This [sonic slicer] is everywhere :v
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 17, 2010, 08:49:38 AM
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3958/cynthiainisshu.jpg)

This [sonic slicer] is everywhere :v

Indeed she is. :v
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 17, 2010, 09:16:31 AM
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9577/looker.jpg)

Remember this guy?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 17, 2010, 10:34:32 AM
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9577/looker.jpg)

Remember this guy?

Oh Looker.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 17, 2010, 10:39:31 AM
(http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/5201/1284711476241.jpg)

When you refight the Elite 4, the Champion is no longer Belle and has been replaced by Gogeta some douche called Adeku.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 17, 2010, 06:48:05 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5IU6FbgVgM[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on September 17, 2010, 07:02:15 PM
(http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/e4-shikimi.jpg)
(http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/e4-giima.jpg)
(http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/e4-katorea.jpg)
(http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/e4-renbu.jpg)

It's nice to have your rival be the champion again, but HOLY [tornado fang]ing [parasitic bomb] at that level jump from E4 to champion o___O
They have images of the Elite 4, but not of the 8 Gym Leaders... Grr...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 17, 2010, 07:28:02 PM
So maybe Cheren the Champion if you pick the other gender?

Posted on: September 17, 2010, 04:52:28 PM
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3958/cynthiainisshu.jpg)

This [sonic slicer] is everywhere :v

Dammit [sonic slicer], get back in the kitchen! :v
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 17, 2010, 08:58:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMgEhOLsMok
Is...is that Team Rocket's music? o__O I really hope they appear somewhere and it's not just reused for Team Plasma.

Oh, and a list of abilites pokémon get in the Dream World.
http://serebii.net/blackwhite/dreamworldabilities.shtml

Politoed gets Drizzle...yeah, that's gonna be the biggest jump in tiers ever.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on September 17, 2010, 09:07:33 PM
Taiyo, that song is a Sound Designer event. >U<

Is anyone able to play 2SF? Then here you go~ <3

Pokemon Black & White (2010)(Game Freak)(Nintendo).zip (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/2SF/Pokemon%20Black%20&%20White%20(2010)(Game%20Freak)(Nintendo).zip)
MediaFire Mirror (http://www.mediafire.com/?b5yq8uxzx73l98q)

This is my very own rip. 203 tracks. MP3 will show up later!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 17, 2010, 09:08:38 PM
Really, oh well, damn misleading video titles.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on September 17, 2010, 10:09:19 PM
Oh, and a list of abilites pokémon get in the Dream World.
http://serebii.net/blackwhite/dreamworldabilities.shtml

Politoed gets Drizzle...yeah, that's gonna be the biggest jump in tiers ever.
Now there's a nice reason to recapture the oldies.  I'm liking a lot of what I see, particularly for Ninetails (Drought, whoo-hoo!), and the fact that RBY/GSC legendaries have something other than F*@#!ING PRESSURE.

Now if only I knew what those new abilities were for Mewtwo and Dragonite...

EDITS: Blaziken with Speed Boost?  Holy crap.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 17, 2010, 10:22:22 PM
I actually like the music. [tornado fang] yeah! R/B/Y champion remix!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on September 17, 2010, 10:25:19 PM
I'm just curious, does anyone know exactly HOW the Dream World works? I read something about a "Global Link" account on Serebii, which makes me wonder if requires the use of a personal computer. I'm a Mac user, and Nintendo hasn't shown much love for us. (Thinking about the Wi-Fi dongle.)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on September 17, 2010, 10:40:28 PM
Now there's a nice reason to recapture the oldies.  I'm liking a lot of what I see, particularly for Ninetails (Drought, whoo-hoo!), and the fact that RBY/GSC legendaries have something other than F*@#!ING PRESSURE.

^THIS

This honestly has me rather curious as to how the new metagame is gonna shape up, as we'll probably have to scrap a lot of old strategies and come up with new ones.  Some abilities that caught my eye:

-Lanturn with Water Absorb?  Oh the mindgames...
-What genius put Lightning rod on Seaking?!
-It's so great that starters aren't limited to the stock "pinch" ability anymore
-Electrode's Aftermath could be useful if you can't pull of an Explosion in time
-Sharpedo with Speed Boost?  8D
-Who in their right mind would use a Soundproof Abomasnow?
-The polar bear gets swift swim?  This changes everything!

These changes range from game-changing to downright pointless, but it all adds some new flavor to the old guys so that they can compete with the new 5th gen pokes.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on September 17, 2010, 11:09:54 PM
-What genius put Lightning rod on Seaking?!
I had to LOL when I saw that.

Lightning Rod seemed to get shoveled out a bit among the Electric types as well, from what I saw.  I guess for the pure Electrics it can be useful since they resist it.  But Zapdos?  Nope, not happening.

Quote
-Who in their right mind would use a Soundproof Abomasnow?
In all fairness, Hail-whoring is about all that Abomasnow is good for.  Short of Wonder Guard, I don't think they could have given him any remotely useful alternative.

Much agreed on Electrode, starters, and especially Sharpedo. 8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 18, 2010, 03:21:08 AM
I had to LOL when I saw that.

Lightning Rod seemed to get shoveled out a bit among the Electric types as well, from what I saw.  I guess for the pure Electrics it can be useful since they resist it.  But Zapdos?  Nope, not happening.

I heard that now it raises Sp.Attack AND gives you inmunity, nothing to lol at.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 18, 2010, 03:25:41 AM
EDITS: Blaziken with Speed Boost?  Holy crap.

Colonel Sanders will have a run for his money if he can't catch a speedy chicken and turn it into a heart attack on a stick.

Yeah, some abilities seem.. strange for some of the pokes. But the good news is I get some pokes with good abilities for a change, helping out the Grass types (since I recall I may mostly use grass types)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on September 18, 2010, 03:27:24 AM
Get your mp3s here...

Pokemon Black / White (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/Pokemon Black & White Soundtrack/) (ZIP File (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/Pokemon Black & White Soundtrack.zip)) (2SF RIP (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/2SF/Pokemon%20Black%20&%20White%20(2010)(Game%20Freak)(Nintendo).zip)) (Nintendo DS)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on September 18, 2010, 09:24:51 AM
Genosect's theme.

Genosect's god damning theme.

Arceus just got shamed.

Also, submitted for the approval of The Midnight Society:

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/genehf/gen5team.png)

Thoughts?

Also, I just noticed Breloom gets Technician.

Why would you do that, GameFreak?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on September 18, 2010, 02:25:07 PM
Oh Handsome.
Fix'd.

Additionally, thanks for the muzak Vixy. <3
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on September 18, 2010, 04:37:53 PM
I heard that now it raises Sp.Attack AND gives you inmunity, nothing to lol at.
So basically an Electric version of Flash Fire?

Hm, interesting, if it turns out to be true...

Also, I just noticed Breloom gets Technician.

Why would you do that, GameFreak?
Oh man, Technician-boosted Drain and Mach Punches will be evil...

Well, look at the bright side, it means axing Poison Heal, so you can hopefully status it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on September 18, 2010, 07:34:02 PM
In that case, Seaking might be able to pull some crazy stuff off after all.   I've also heard that the Rotom forms actually change his typing now (i.e. Fridge Rotom is now Elec/Ice).
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on September 20, 2010, 02:54:35 AM
Well, it'd be nice to have some reason other than being unwilling to swing the fourth move slot to stick with his default form, I guess...

(so sue me, I like a Levitating Elec/Ghost)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on September 20, 2010, 03:15:51 AM
http://www.rockmanpm.com/player/player.swf?file=http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/pkmnbw_raimoncity.mp3
Fire Man's Stage (also known as Raimon City) (http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/pkmnbw_raimoncity.mp3)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 20, 2010, 03:25:51 AM
http://www.rockmanpm.com/player/player.swf?file=http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/pkmnbw_raimoncity.mp3
Fire Man's Stage (also known as Raimon City) (http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/pkmnbw_raimoncity.mp3)

Mega Man: A true Musical Legend.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 20, 2010, 04:43:39 PM
Ok, so any idea when/for who/for what this track plays?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFgFoomoI40
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on September 21, 2010, 12:07:06 AM
-Sharpedo with Speed Boost?  8D
holy [parasitic bomb]
SUCK MY DIIIIIIIICK
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Lunar Knight Zeke on September 21, 2010, 12:19:49 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMgEhOLsMok
Is...is that Team Rocket's music? o__O I really hope they appear somewhere and it's not just reused for Team Plasma.

Oh, and a list of abilites pokémon get in the Dream World.
http://serebii.net/blackwhite/dreamworldabilities.shtml

Politoed gets Drizzle...yeah, that's gonna be the biggest jump in tiers ever.

Wow... and here I was thinking that several pokemon were broken enough.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 21, 2010, 02:29:45 AM
Ok, has there been any explanation for this?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2NNRmGQ80g[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 21, 2010, 03:17:40 AM
I had one of those, I have no idea why though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: SUIKA on September 21, 2010, 01:30:03 PM
I got my copy of White today! What counts as spoilers now that all the information is out? Well, whatever.

[spoiler]What else can I catch on Route 1 at night other than the Raccoon thing.[/spoiler]

I really wanna' buy a copy of Pokemon Pia from eBay, because I have more money than sense. I wish someone had told me that Play-Asia was selling copies..
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on September 22, 2010, 05:33:26 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9TEzmAqZRA[/youtube]
This... is... [tornado fang]ing... WIN!! :D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 22, 2010, 05:35:04 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9TEzmAqZRA[/youtube]
This... is... [tornado fang]ing... WIN!! :D

I think I just had an ear-gasm.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on September 22, 2010, 07:53:36 AM
I had multiple rapid ones.

In fact...

*has multiple rapid eargasms to Pokemon Black/White - WCS Battle [Kanto Champion Battle] [15:54/02:52]*

Had to rename the tracks, Vix. :P

Also, playing Black, and I caught a Yooterii and named it Stach (5 letter limit in the JP versions).

She was level 9 fighting a level 10 Choroneko (the cat). OHKO'd him. Apparently in Black/White, Dog is super effective against Cat! 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 22, 2010, 08:01:27 AM
I just finished the first half of the game, and now I can encounter older generations Pokemans, and all the trainers have level 65+ Pokemans.
THEY'RE DESTROYING ME.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 22, 2010, 04:22:42 PM
I just finished the first half of the game, and now I can encounter older generations Pokemans, and all the trainers have level 65+ Pokemans.
THEY'RE DESTROYING ME.

SH... I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS POSSIBLE TO LOSE AGAINST SOMEONE WHO'S NOT IN THE ELITE FOUR OR BATTLE FRONTIER!

Wow. I really can't believe it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 22, 2010, 05:22:40 PM
SH... I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS POSSIBLE TO LOSE AGAINST SOMEONE WHO'S NOT IN THE ELITE FOUR OR BATTLE FRONTIER!

Wow. I really can't believe it.

Don't lie. You couldn't even beat the league in Emerald.

I'm sure you lose to random trainers all the time.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 22, 2010, 05:36:40 PM
Don't lie. You couldn't even beat the league in Emerald.

I'm sure you lose to random trainers all the time.

Heh. Funny story about that.

I could beat the league in emerald when I was nine, but I can't do it NOW.

It's like Superbat's story. He wonders as well just how he was so uber when he was younger.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 22, 2010, 11:06:26 PM
I'm gonna see if I can get a picture of my Pokemans from my DS, but I can't get a decent picture from this camera, so I'll have to find an alternative.

I want to show RPM my Pokemans.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on September 23, 2010, 03:10:25 AM
SH... I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS POSSIBLE TO LOSE AGAINST SOMEONE WHO'S NOT IN THE ELITE FOUR OR BATTLE FRONTIER!

Wow. I really can't believe it.
Keep in mind that in Emerald the Elite Four's Pokemon weren't above level 65. I think a few were, but for the most part... no.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 23, 2010, 03:22:28 AM
I just finished the first half of the game, and now I can encounter older generations Pokemans, and all the trainers have level 65+ Pokemans.
THEY'RE DESTROYING ME.

Then I gotta beat all the region's Trainers before storming into the Elite Four's IP.. Thanks for the head's up.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on September 23, 2010, 03:23:50 AM
Gaia, you can't reach those trainers until after you beat the Elite Four.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 23, 2010, 03:32:22 AM
Gaia, you can't reach those trainers until after you beat the Elite Four.

Ah, those trainers. Is there a specific area on Isshu that opens up after you defeat the Elite Four.. Or am I missing something here?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on September 23, 2010, 03:48:01 AM
The right half of the main loop is closed pre-E4. That's where these trainers are.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 23, 2010, 05:40:54 AM
All the wild pokemans are pretty high leveled too, like 50+
And from various regions.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 23, 2010, 05:41:29 AM
All the wild pokemans are pretty high leveled too, like 50+
And from various regions.

Dude. I think you're POST E4.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on September 23, 2010, 05:43:19 AM
That's what he meant by "first half". >_>
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 23, 2010, 05:43:55 AM
That's what he meant by "first half". >_>

That makes so little sense in my thirteen year old brain, words can't even....
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on September 23, 2010, 05:45:24 AM
I just finished the first half of the game, and now I can encounter older generations Pokemans, and all the trainers have level 65+ Pokemans.
THEY'RE DESTROYING ME.
First half of the game, right there. Meaning he beat the E4. The second half of the game is finding the 7 sages or something. And exploring the other half of the main loop of the map.

If you'd read his post more carefully, your 13-year-old brain might have been able to handle it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 23, 2010, 05:48:06 AM
First half of the game, right there. Meaning he beat the E4. The second half of the game is finding the 7 sages or something. And exploring the other half of the main loop of the map.

If you'd read his post more carefully, your 13-year-old brain might have been able to handle it.

Ah. Finished. I missed that post. Me and my speed reading.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 23, 2010, 05:49:02 AM
They're 13 and doesn't know what this is.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on September 23, 2010, 05:54:48 AM
You do have a point there.

We could really mess with him with the being known simply as... MANANA!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 23, 2010, 05:55:42 AM
You do have a point there.

We could really mess with him with the being known simply as... MANANA!

Never heard of it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 23, 2010, 06:08:54 AM
You don't wanna know what a Manana is.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 23, 2010, 06:09:30 AM
You don't wanna know what a Manana is.

WELL THANKS. NOW I DO.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on September 23, 2010, 06:10:57 AM
MUHAHAHAH!!!

Just as planned... 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gotham Ranger on September 23, 2010, 06:11:50 AM
You don't wanna know what a Manana is.
Isn't that what I put in my banana hammock?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on September 23, 2010, 06:12:41 AM
No, that's your banana. Hence the term banana hammock.

I just thought about a banana on top of Ice Cream Pokemon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on September 23, 2010, 05:44:16 PM
does everyone here know japanese
if so then i jelly
i can't be arsed to study japanese anymore
but on the other hand i'd have had white by now
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on September 23, 2010, 09:47:30 PM
I don't know a lick of Japanese, but it's not hard to play a Pokemon game in Japanese when you don't know what's being said.
The worst part is not knowing what move your Pokemon is learning, it's a trial and error thing.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Klavier Gavin on September 23, 2010, 10:00:08 PM
The worst part is not knowing what move your Pokemon is learning, it's a trial and error thing.


"Oh! My Pokémon is trying to learn a new move!"
"It's the same type as this one and does more damage!"
"REPLACE!"

8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 23, 2010, 10:44:37 PM

"Oh! My Pokémon is trying to learn a new move!"
"It's the same type as this one and does more damage!"
"REPLACE!"

8D

It's a Blast Burn over Flamethrower kinda thing.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 23, 2010, 10:48:07 PM
It's a Blast Burn over Flamethrower kinda thing.

|:
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on September 24, 2010, 03:48:11 AM
|:
What?
30% burn chance isn't a good thing?
I mean in-game and not competitively, of course, bar the pokemon with Serene Grace.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: SUIKA on September 24, 2010, 04:59:09 AM
Just learn Katakana first, so you at least know what NPCs are on about when they mention the name of a Pokemon or a town or something.

It don't take long.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 24, 2010, 05:20:02 AM
Just learn Katakana first, so you at least know what NPCs are on about when they mention the name of a Pokemon or a town or something.

It don't take long.

Or use a translator. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 24, 2010, 05:50:22 AM
Somewhat unrelated, but in the latest Pokémon episode, Ash and Pikachu just lost to some guy who hadn't even had a Pokémon or been a trainer for three minutes.

Best Wishes! confirmed for the same old faggotry as usual.

Not that I expected otherwise.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: X-3 on September 24, 2010, 02:06:06 PM
In his defense, his opponent was a smug trainer using Smugleaf. You can't just beat synchronization like that.
(until the League)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 24, 2010, 04:04:00 PM
Somewhat unrelated, but in the latest Pokémon episode, Ash and Pikachu just lost to some guy who hadn't even had a Pokémon or been a trainer for three minutes.

Best Wishes! confirmed for the same old faggotry as usual.

Not that I expected otherwise.

Touche my friend. Touche.

Oh, trust me, I stopped watching Pokemon a LONG LONG LONG time ago.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: geekgo4 on September 24, 2010, 07:18:50 PM
Somewhat unrelated, but in the latest Pokémon episode, Ash and Pikachu just lost to some guy who hadn't even had a Pokémon or been a trainer for three minutes.

Best Wishes! confirmed for the same old faggotry as usual.

Not that I expected otherwise.
I would have figured that the writers reset him back into a n00b, with his starter reverting back to level 5. They have a habit of doing this, now. I mean, they made him even younger!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on September 25, 2010, 01:53:03 AM
Ash has been in a state of perpetual n00bness ever since Hoenn, because the writers can't be assed to accommodate age, experience, or any other factor that may challenge the status quo.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on September 25, 2010, 03:02:30 AM
Actually, people that claim to have seen the show say that he was a really good trainer in DP and would've won the league of not because of "lol team of legendaries."

Right now the one they nerfed was Pikachu supposedly. Blame Zekrom.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 25, 2010, 03:05:55 AM
Actually, people that claim to have seen the show say that he was a really good trainer in DP and would've won the league of not because of "lol team of legendaries."

Right now the one they nerfed was Pikachu supposedly. Blame Zekrom.

Well, he did come 4th in the Sinnoh League and was the only who beat Takuto's Darkrai. Everyone else, including the guy who came second, just got sweeped by Darkrai.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on September 25, 2010, 03:29:58 AM
Somebody sweeped the DP league with Darkrai?  Damn. XD

Quite a shame that the only League Ash ever actually won was anime-specific.  Nevertheless, championship battle against a Dragonite was pretty awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 25, 2010, 03:35:20 AM
Somebody sweeped the DP league with Darkrai?  Damn. XD

This about sums it all up quite nicely:

(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2046/takutobetrolling.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on September 25, 2010, 03:42:59 AM
In all fairness, the anime (in the "Heroes" movie, anyway; I've not seen that episode), did not depict Latios/Latias as anywhere NEAR as powerful as they are in the games.

Nevertheless, I had to LOL at Latios.  I swear the people who work with Pokemon just love to screw with the "standard tournament" players' heads.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 25, 2010, 03:56:19 AM
This about sums it all up quite nicely:

(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2046/takutobetrolling.jpg)

Yeah. Just about does it right.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: geekgo4 on September 25, 2010, 05:35:29 AM
I have been wsh so much for them to change their protagonist, but now, the creators say, "eff you" every time.

Is it so hard just to let Satoshi have one win?  Just one?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 25, 2010, 05:57:57 AM
I have been wsh so much for them to change their protagonist, but now, the creators say, "eff you" every time.

Is it so hard just to let Satoshi have one win?  Just one?

Yes. Impossible, in fact. He's doomed to wuss-ism time after time after time. He's never gonna be the very best, that no-one ever was.

Posted on: September 25, 2010, 05:48:55
Ash beat Gary, you know.

And you all praise that [chameleon sting]er.

OH. HE BEAT GARY.  HOW SPECIAL. IT'S GREAT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T IGNORE HIS GIRTH.

Oh whoop dee doo. I beat him with only my starter left back in Yellow, no problem. He's a loser.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 25, 2010, 06:01:42 AM
>implying that gary and blue/green are the same

and you wonder why you get made fun of
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on September 25, 2010, 06:08:14 AM
>implying that gary and blue/green are the same

and you wonder why you get made fun of


Yeah. Pretty much. Let's go with that.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on September 25, 2010, 06:09:30 AM
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Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: geekgo4 on September 25, 2010, 06:36:10 PM
Hmm... did anyone ever thought that at the very beginning, he could really grow up to be a decent badass at the time?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on September 26, 2010, 12:15:59 AM
Well, he lacks the ability to "grow up" period, despite clear references to time passage during the Kanto league (and again in the Pikachu and Pichu short).

Don't think he'd have ever been the badass that Wes is, though.  Kinda funny how everyone's psyched about the B/W trainers being older for a change, yet nobody noticed when Colosseum did it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on September 26, 2010, 12:18:49 AM
Don't think he'd have ever been the badass that Wes is, though.  Kinda funny how everyone's psyched about the B/W trainers being older for a change, yet nobody noticed when Colosseum did it.

I noticed that myself actually, especially in the battles.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: geekgo4 on September 26, 2010, 01:51:41 AM
Well, he lacks the ability to "grow up" period, despite clear references to time passage during the Kanto league (and again in the Pikachu and Pichu short).

Don't think he'd have ever been the badass that Wes is, though.  Kinda funny how everyone's psyched about the B/W trainers being older for a change, yet nobody noticed when Colosseum did it.
To be fair, Colosseum's not really canon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on September 26, 2010, 04:41:42 AM
...what kind of Bizzarro World have I entered where the word "canon" was used to refer to a Pokemon game?

But assuming we are trying to derive story value from a series that gave us "child prodigy collects 8 badges and become the champion" 17 times over, why would Colosseum be exempt?  It doesn't contradict anything established in previous games, and neither so does any future game contradict it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: geekgo4 on September 29, 2010, 11:47:29 PM
...what kind of Bizzarro World have I entered where the word "canon" was used to refer to a Pokemon game?

But assuming we are trying to derive story value from a series that gave us "child prodigy collects 8 badges and become the champion" 17 times over, why would Colosseum be exempt?  It doesn't contradict anything established in previous games, and neither so does any future game contradict it.
I guess I got it from Bulbapedia.

Also, it wasn't developed by Game Freak Inc.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on September 30, 2010, 12:11:15 AM
The company that develops it doesn't determine canon.

That's like saying Zero and ZX aren't canon because Inti developed them, and they didn't develop Classic and X.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on September 30, 2010, 07:07:16 PM
Different region, anyway. It's its own thing in a larger world.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on October 01, 2010, 03:30:40 AM
Different region, anyway. It's its own thing in a larger world.
:cookie:
That's what I was getting at earlier.  There's not a lot in any one region of Pokemon that can deny the existence of another region.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on October 02, 2010, 09:31:37 PM
:cookie:
That's what I was getting at earlier.  There's not a lot in any one region of Pokemon that can deny the existence of another region.

Yeah. They all exist period. I mean, look at G/S/C. They're interconnected for the love of God.

And those mountains on the top-left corner of Johto's map, I for a while thought they lead to Hoenn.

Which still stands until I see a legit map of the pokemon world.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on October 03, 2010, 07:15:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpViZzN5LYs

About time they thought of this!  No more of that annoying beeping.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on October 03, 2010, 04:43:41 PM
I can't help but LOL at how the classic beep is incorporated as part of the music, especially with that skip effect applied.

Awesomeness!  The only problem is this is going to REALLY tempt me to not heal my Pokemon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on October 03, 2010, 09:05:28 PM
As awesome as it is, when you're about to die, the music may be secondary.

I've heard it many a-time, and it is awesome. And it makes me a little sad when I have to make it stop.

Eh, that's what Vixy's 2SF rip is for! XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on October 03, 2010, 10:31:48 PM
I do like how they incorporated the beeps into the music.

And quite frankly, the beeping got on my nerves when my Blaziken was getting raped by Wallace.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on October 03, 2010, 11:17:09 PM
>Fire Pokemon
>Against Water
>Getting raped

 -AC
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on October 03, 2010, 11:26:35 PM
>Fire Pokemon
>Against Water
>Getting raped

 -AC

I was out of slaves! I had to use Blaze to use a revive on Rayquaza!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on October 04, 2010, 01:15:59 AM
I do like how they incorporated the beeps into the music.

And quite frankly, the beeping got on my nerves when my Blaziken was getting raped by Wallace.

Why the hell does everybody always pick the fire starter?

I usually pick water, but in Emerald I picked Treecko.

[tornado fang]ing Dominated with Smug Sceptile.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on October 04, 2010, 01:17:37 AM
I chose water in my last playthrough of Emerald.

And then I lost my copy of Emerald... :'(
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on October 04, 2010, 01:27:04 AM
I lost my copy of emerald while taking a bath. I emptied my pockets in my room, and took a bath. Haven't seen it since.

We've moved twice since then. So yeah, it's long gone.

GOOD THING I JUST DOWNLOADED THE ROM. 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on October 04, 2010, 01:39:31 AM
It's not the same.

Now I won't be able to transfer Teira-Rin the Swampert to HG if I ever get it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on October 04, 2010, 02:50:58 AM
Eh. I guess.

But yeah, I also lost my LeafGreen.

THANKFULLY, MY CRYSTAL IS STILL INTACT ON MY DESK.

Yeah, but previously, I thought the Advanced Generation was the last good one, but B&W seems to be shaping up quite nicely.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on October 04, 2010, 03:18:13 AM
Personally 3rd Gen is my least favorite, at least in terms of its starting titles (loved Colosseum).  180-something oldies unavailable without hacking?  I'll be damned if I'm playing a Pokemon game with no Dragonite.  And it introduced the current EV system which I'm not a fan of; it's completely impossible to build a mixed attacker to its full potential, and the random battles over the course of the game seriously screw up whatever Pokemon you have not specifically grinded (read: either re-breeding or berry-stuffing your starters).

Still had its strong points, of course.  It's hard to call any core Pokemon RPG "bad", since they're all largely the same.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on October 04, 2010, 03:26:06 AM
Personally 3rd Gen is my least favorite, at least in terms of its starting titles (loved Colosseum).  180-something oldies unavailable without hacking?  I'll be damned if I'm playing a Pokemon game with no Dragonite.  And it introduced the current EV system which I'm not a fan of; it's completely impossible to build a mixed attacker to its full potential, and the random battles over the course of the game seriously screw up whatever Pokemon you have not specifically grinded (read: either re-breeding or berry-stuffing your starters).

Still had its strong points, of course.  It's hard to call any core Pokemon RPG "bad", since they're all largely the same.

While I do agree 3rd Gen screwed up a couple things, one can't argue that it had it's strong points too, such as the fact that it introduced the whole double battle thing, which was a huge step in the current battling system. And Emerald was by far the strongest in storyline terms, which, in my opinion, Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum can't stand up to. Emerald's story was immersive, at least for a Pokemon game, and dang fun to play through. That, and it had an actual cutscene in it. 8D.

Also, it had the one and only good Battle Frontier. Afterwards, it became a gimmick.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on October 04, 2010, 03:35:29 AM
On principle I utterly despise any and all single-player competitions that forbid a given Pokemon species.  If you can't use Mewtwo against the game's high-level CPU enemies, then who the hell are you SUPPOSED to use him on?

Fact is, pretty much every Pokemon game requires getting the console version for an anything-goes high level battle.  2nd gen was somewhat better, with Red and all, but still.

Double Battles are awesome, though.  R/S underutilized them, but that's why I love Colosseum (and to a lesser extent Gale of Darkness).  And, to be fair, the Hoenn games had one awesome Victory Road theme (with an even more excellent remix in SSB Brawl).
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on October 04, 2010, 05:30:42 AM
Another thing about Emerald that has been forgotten (until B/W) was cutscenes! The friggin' cutscene between Rayquaza, Groudon, and Kyogre was pretty epic. There haven't been cutscenes like that until B/W, which takes them again, somewhat. Hell, there's the Live Caster, and then there's the scene where N talks to you in first person with art. It's well done.

And yeah, Victory Road music was epic.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on October 04, 2010, 05:38:06 AM
Emerald had overall good music all together.

Although, and I'm not sure if I'm agreed with here, but some of the music did strike me as, I 'unno, Egyptianish.

Besides the Desert area I mean...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on October 04, 2010, 06:11:20 AM
Awesomeness!  The only problem is this is going to REALLY tempt me to not heal my Pokemon.
Lately, I've learned to use those handy-yet-underused X-items in Gym Leader/E4 battles.  It's easy to predict a Full Restore use, so just ramp up your attack/speed and prepare to sweep!  I pulled this over on Red in SS and tore through him.  From what I can tell, the new low health theme just gives me further incentive to use them!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on October 04, 2010, 06:13:20 AM
Lately, I've learned to use those handy-yet-underused X-items in Gym Leader/E4 battles.  It's easy to predict a Full Restore use, so just ramp up your attack/speed and prepare to sweep!  I pulled this over on Red in SS and tore through him.  From what I can tell, the new low health theme just gives me further incentive to use them!

WAT ARE THEM X-ITEMS YOU SPEAK OF? 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on October 04, 2010, 06:16:53 AM
You know, those Battle Items such as X Attack, X Defend, X Speed, etc.  Pretty much gives you a +1 boost that lasts for the duration of the battle.  Used correctly they can be downright lethal when fighting Gym Leaders.  Come to think of it, Gym Leaders used to use them as well.  Wonder why they stopped...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on October 04, 2010, 04:33:56 PM
That is a simple answer: They stopped because, for any person using the gym's weakness, it just made it easier instead of harder.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on October 04, 2010, 07:07:56 PM
Good point.  Still, it's not like I can't see a Full Restore coming on from a mile away, either.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on October 04, 2010, 07:38:24 PM
Yes but at least Full Restore gives them at least an extra turn to live most of the time. Can't say the same of the X ____.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Shinigami No Tekken on October 05, 2010, 01:47:15 AM
Yes but at least Full Restore gives them at least an extra turn to live most of the time. Can't say the same of the X ____.

If anything, it gives them one less.

I tried using the X-Items once, didn't work out well.

Then again, I was a seven year old playing Pokemon Blue. I didn't know [parasitic bomb].
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on October 16, 2010, 09:16:40 AM
Just letting everyone know that Mew's up on Wi-fi and will be until the 30th.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on October 16, 2010, 09:22:43 AM
Somehow, I'm getting the feeling that everyone's gonna be pissed when the new gen's names get dubbed.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on October 16, 2010, 09:54:10 AM
Just letting everyone know that Mew's up on Wi-fi and will be until the 30th.

Thanks. Now I have a Mew. Now I just have to wait a long while to get Jirachi and Celebi. And eventually find alternate methods to getting Darkrai, Manaphy, Deyoxys, Arceus, and Shaymin... :\

God damnit Nintendo... I don't think many people like these Event Pokemon...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on October 16, 2010, 03:47:36 PM
Yay, a Mew! 8)

Well, no need to hack the Emerald event for Pokedex completion now.  Although, if I ever intend to use the guy in battle, being able to pick a Nature would be worth it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VirusChris on October 16, 2010, 06:08:55 PM
Just pickup my Mew!


Do you think Nintendo will cycle through their events for people for missed some or are they out of luck?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on October 16, 2010, 06:34:51 PM
Mew is nice and all, but are we EVER going to get the Azure Flute in our lifetime? I mean seriously, it's ridiculous, not even Japan has it and they have 5th gen already.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on October 16, 2010, 06:47:21 PM
I got my Mew. He's level 32 and I'm gonna use him to pwn Mewtwo. As it should be. ^.^

I also migrated a Groudon from Ruby so I'll be able to get Rayquaza on HG, since I'll fight Kyogre there.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on October 17, 2010, 03:38:38 AM
I thought getting Rayquaza in HG/SS required having both a Kyogre and Groudon native to those two versions?

Admittedly I haven't had much of a desire to reset-hound Legendary Pokemon.  I *STILL* have an unused Enigma Stone.  I'm just really, completely satisfied with my team.  And the amount of dedication it takes to raise the critters doesn't make Pokemon an experimenting-friendly game (post-3rd gen IV system doesn't help any).

Between that and the Dream World Abilities, I'll probably want to minimize the amount of cross-gen trading I do once Black and White roll around (I'll certainly take a OHKO-resistant Dragonite over a flinch-immune Dragonite).

Mew is nice and all, but are we EVER going to get the Azure Flute in our lifetime? I mean seriously, it's ridiculous, not even Japan has it and they have 5th gen already.
Probably not.  I'm betting somebody at Nintendo realized how game-breaking Arceus would be if it were released with the full IV/Nature manipulation afforded by an actual encounter.  Plus the cat was out of the bag in Japan due to a game glitch in early versions anyway.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on October 17, 2010, 04:00:23 AM
I thought getting Rayquaza in HG/SS required having both a Kyogre and Groudon native to those two versions?

Yes it does.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on October 18, 2010, 01:49:17 AM
Wait...

So migrating my Groudon from Ruby won't let me get Rayquaza in HG?

WRRRRRYYYYYY??????
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on October 18, 2010, 02:47:15 AM
I just did the easy thing and transferred Kyogre and Rayquaza over. Then got Groudon in my SS. :P
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on November 23, 2010, 12:26:54 AM
http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/en-us/the-starter-pokemon/

Quote
* Grass-type Tsutarja: Snivy
* Fire-type Pokabu: Tepig
* Water-type Mijumaru: Oshawott
* Isshu region: Unova region
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on November 23, 2010, 12:31:03 AM
Ewww... those are horrible. I think I'll stick with the JP names.

Realy? Tepig? Is that supposed to be a play on Tepid?

And Unova? Nova means New, I think, so that's probably what they're referencing there.

And Oshawott makes no sense at all.

At least Snivy works (Snide + ivy)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on November 23, 2010, 01:40:32 AM
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/vp/1290472036222.png)

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/vp/1290472156382.png)

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/vp/1290471694011.png)

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/vp/1290471163253.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on November 23, 2010, 01:43:02 AM
lol... Revolver Oshawott...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on November 23, 2010, 01:50:11 AM
At least Snivy works (Snide + ivy)

Actually that'd be Snake+Ivy

Snivy>Oshawott>Tepig (in names only though)...still, I think I'll stick with Smugleaf, Wotter, and Pignite. Also, why rename Isshu?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on November 23, 2010, 02:25:38 AM
...Tepig really?  

It's a good thing I nickname my pokemon, and I already decided to name him Hakkai a few months ago and Yannappu is going to be Goku.  Now if only I had a Pokemon for Sanzo and Gojyo because honestly I don't know what kind of pokemon could be a priest and a water sprite and still be decent for the first playthrough.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on November 24, 2010, 12:00:19 AM
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/vp/1290545864695.jpg)

"So you're the one with the same codename as the boss."
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Acid on November 24, 2010, 01:27:03 AM
Easy choice.

Grass starter for me here.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Karai on November 24, 2010, 07:17:12 PM
Snivy is a good name for my starter.
But what's with the region name change? Every other name was ok, and suddenly Isshu is bad?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on December 28, 2010, 01:17:05 AM
Release date announced.

B&W on March 6th, 2011.

Nice, early in the month.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: geekgo4 on December 28, 2010, 05:51:41 AM
Snivy is a good name for my starter.
But what's with the region name change? Every other name was ok, and suddenly Isshu is bad?
Well, Isshu is based on New Youk, so they just give it a Japanese Name, can it?

Also, wow. People complaining about the 5th Gen Starter Names.

Where was the hate for Pochama's dub name?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on December 28, 2010, 08:19:13 AM
More localised names.
(Japanese name => Localised name)

Humans:
Professor Araragi => Professor Juniper
N => N
Team Plasma => Team Plasma

Places:
Hiun City => Castelia City
Black City => Black City
White Forest => White Forest

Pokemon:
Yanappu (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/511.shtml) => Pansage
Baoppu (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/513.shtml) => Pansear
Hiyappu (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/515.shtml) => Panpour
Munna (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/517.shtml) => Munna
Mamepato (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/519.html) => Pidove
Shimama (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/522.shtml) => Blitzle
Gigaith (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/526.shtml) => Gigalith
Meguroc (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/551.shtml) => Sandile
Hihidaruma (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/555.shtml) => Darmanitan
Chillarmy (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/572.shtml) => Minccino
Gear (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/599.shtml) => Klink

Pokemon Abilities:
Encourage => Sheer Force (http://www.serebii.net/abilitydex/sheerforce.shtml)
Overconfidence => Moxie (http://www.serebii.net/abilitydex/moxie.shtml)
Pigeon Heart => Big Pecks (http://www.serebii.net/abilitydex/bigpecks.shtml)

Pokemon Attacks:
Sweep Slap (http://www.serebii.net/attackdex-bw/sweepslap.shtml) => Tail Slap
Telekinesis (http://www.serebii.net/attackdex-bw/telekinesis.shtml) => Telekinesis
Wild Bolt (http://www.serebii.net/attackdex-bw/wildbolt.shtml) => Wild Charge

Source: Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on December 28, 2010, 09:21:13 AM
There was no reason to change Gear.

I like the original ability names over the localized ones. (Sheer force is the exception.)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on December 28, 2010, 10:20:50 AM
Definitely naming Klink to Col. Klink.

Big Pecks is also hilarious.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on December 28, 2010, 05:11:05 PM
I thought I'd name my Pokemon in BW after Canadian cities because Oshawott sounds like a combination of "Oshawa" and "Ottawa" (therefore I'm naming my Oshawott, "Ottawa"). Tepig is going to be called Toronto (because its nickname is Hog Town), and Snivy will likely be Calgary or maybe after my hometown since we have more than enough snakes.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on December 29, 2010, 01:11:51 AM
Since nobody posted this here, the shiny G/S/C beasts are going to be downloadable at GameStop in the coming weeks.  Raikou from Jan. 3-9, Entei from Jan. 17-23, and Suicune from Jan 31-Feb. 6.

If you want the Zoroark event in Black/White, you'll need one of them.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on December 29, 2010, 02:24:58 AM
Then I'd better get my DS so I can get them on mah HG.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on December 29, 2010, 03:15:29 AM
...Big Pecks, are they serious?  Well at least Pansage gives me more reason to name him Goku but I have no idea what to call Blitzle.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on December 29, 2010, 03:37:07 AM
Since nobody posted this here, the shiny G/S/C beasts are going to be downloadable at GameStop in the coming weeks.  Raikou from Jan. 3-9, Entei from Jan. 17-23, and Suicune from Jan 31-Feb. 6.

If you want the Zoroark event in Black/White, you'll need one of them.

[tornado fang] you Nintendo, what about everyone else outside the US/Canada =/
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Reaperoid on December 29, 2010, 04:26:13 AM
I already have my shiny beasts and Celebi on my ENG Gen4 ready for my upcoming ENG White, got them from a friend who got them from the JP movie 13 distributions.
Plus I got some help with my JP Black (no JP Gen4 carts :<), so I've caught Zorua and Zoroark on there too. Worst comes to worst, I can trade them to White for the records.

Also, on another note, it's not been mentioned that Canada will actually be receiving the beasts as well. The only restriction is that English carts (xxxE game code) can receive them, considering that HeartGold and SoulSilver are the first games to officially be sold in French in Canada.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on December 29, 2010, 05:17:39 AM
Blitzle? I shall get him to accompany my Blitzwei!!

Then agian, ZAPDOS doesn't need the help soo...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Reaperoid on December 31, 2010, 05:19:52 AM
The shiny beast distribution cart has been dumped.
A GAMESTP Celebi is also in there, and 'can be obtained' from Feb 27 ~ Mar 7 depending on whether Gamestop does anything.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on January 02, 2011, 01:16:37 AM
Sounds awesome. Been a long time since ANYBODY in the US was able to get Celebi legitimately.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on January 02, 2011, 01:36:06 AM
A legit gamestop celebi that lasts for two months? I'm there, after when I get me shinies~
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Reaperoid on January 14, 2011, 04:56:51 AM
Celebi has been somewhat confirmed  (http://pokebeach.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=91187&pid=1790682#pid1790682)by a Pokebeach poster, for Canada at least.

Posted on: 1329:06, 07-01-2011
>>Pignite
>>Haxorus (http://pokejungle.net/2011/01/13/list-of-english-bw-names/)

Good god, run for your lives.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Acid on January 14, 2011, 05:19:10 AM
I like Pignite.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobalt on January 14, 2011, 05:34:23 AM
Yeah, I think Pignite is good. A lot of the names are more clever than I thought.
On the other hand there is Haxorus and Eelektrik.  :\
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on January 14, 2011, 05:45:07 PM
Interesting to note that some of the legendaries actually kept their Japanese names. (Same even for some of the regulars)

Quote
Tsunbeaa/Beartic

Not bad, feels a bit trite though.

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Shanderaa/Chandelure

I lol'd.  Anyone who knows how dangerous this thing is in competitive Pokemon will no doubt understand that this name is perfect for it.

A couple others stood out for me, like Mandibuzz, Crookodile (http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1405222298.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg), Galvantula, Escavalier, Cryogonal, and Vanniluxe.  The names aren't nearly as disappointing as I thought they'd be, you can really tell they did their homework on this one.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 08, 2011, 06:03:10 AM
Whoah, this thing's in the second page?

Anyways, does anyone have a spare event Celebi they want to trade? I can give any of the shiny beast trio, but I imagine everyone has those already >.>

It MUST NOT HAVE BEEN TRANSFERRED TO BW AND USED ALREADY, IIRC this gen they programmed the event legents to only activate events once, so no doing your own event and then lending to a friend =/ Besides I want to do the whole Giovanni thing in HG >.>
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: TheDivine on March 08, 2011, 07:19:32 AM
I heard in Pokemon White they give you the Pokemon, but in Pokemon Black you have to steal it from the box. Is this true?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rad Lionheart on March 08, 2011, 11:16:55 AM
Give/Steal when?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on March 08, 2011, 11:53:18 AM
I heard in Pokemon White they give you the Pokemon, but in Pokemon Black you have to steal it from the box. Is this true?
OH U

Anyway, can anyone tell me... now that it's released in english... is this more interesting than previous games? Is it actually... you know, FUN, instead of being a typical rehash?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Ephidiel on March 08, 2011, 08:44:36 PM
my pokemon black friendscode: 0991-0996-1371
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on March 08, 2011, 11:18:09 PM
Whoah, this thing's in the second page?

Anyways, does anyone have a spare event Celebi they want to trade? I can give any of the shiny beast trio, but I imagine everyone has those already >.>

It MUST NOT HAVE BEEN TRANSFERRED TO BW AND USED ALREADY, IIRC this gen they programmed the event legents to only activate events once, so no doing your own event and then lending to a friend =/ Besides I want to do the whole Giovanni thing in HG >.>

I STILL have the second GS Celebi unused sitting in my copy of D/P, but I need to get my WiFi to work for my DS again, right now it's on a revolution.   -u-'
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on March 10, 2011, 01:37:59 AM
Man, these shaky grass patches are something else.  On one hand, it's easy to get annoyed at the fact that finding anything other than an Audino in one is a rarity in itself.  On the other hand, Audino gives out so much EXP that it's not even funny.  I'm tempted to just start grinding on these things.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on March 21, 2011, 01:56:31 AM
May I just say that this is my favorite gen ever so far? So creative. Only real negative I have for the games are that fire types that aren't glass cannons or ugly (looking at you Darumaka line) are pretty much nil. Countering that though is Volcarona. [spoiler]HOLY [tornado fang] BUG/FIRE MIX IS GODLIKE[/spoiler]

Also, bump for Celebi & whatnot so I can start up the Zorua/Zoroark shenanigans. I'll post my FC and all that soon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on March 21, 2011, 02:27:42 AM
Zoroark was fun. Zorua not so much, aside from getting to choose which Poké Ball to put it in (Luxury Ball FTW!!)

Also, loving it too. Catching all the non-event Legendaries right now. Tricky, but fun.

Managed to catch Zekrom in a Net Ball; that was odd but awesome. And used the Poké Transfer last night; what a pain. My Suicune (that I caught on my own; non-shiny) kept hiding behind a bush. Once you get the hang of it, though, it's pretty easy.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 22, 2011, 03:21:47 AM
May I just say that this is my favorite gen ever so far? So creative. Only real negative I have for the games are that fire types that aren't glass cannons or ugly (looking at you Darumaka line) are pretty much nil. Countering that though is Volcarona. [spoiler]HOLY [tornado fang] BUG/FIRE MIX IS GODLIKE[/spoiler]

Yeah, I'd have to agree with that. Honestly, I LOVE the endgame, that was so freaking awesome and had I not been spoiled about it it would've came out of nowhere and been even better.

Also, N > most rivals. Seriously [spoiler] does any other rival provide you with an epic legendary vs legendary battle? No? I thought so.[/spoiler]

Also, still looking for that Celebi and also someone that can help me trade evolve some guys.


Posted on: March 21, 2011, 22:44:44
Well, forget the Celebi, got it already with that GTS website thing I posted a while back. Getting all other event legends while I'm at it >.>

Still need a trading partner though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on March 22, 2011, 05:36:48 AM
The hardest part about this game for myself currently is realizing that I really need to keep on top of a lot of things in order to get the most out of the game. The stuff regarding events that I unfortunately missed by not getting SoulSilver earlier is coming back to haunt me. I wants a Zoroark. :(

On another note, anyone else completely curbstomp all of the trainers through the main story only to get stopped up by Ghetis and not even his team really, but just his insane fast Hydregion? Also, anyone else having a hard time finding places to build level until you can handle all the trainers and wild Pokes in the eastern parts of the map? I feel like every other thing hands my ever changing team their asses badly. XD

One final tangent, I'm really trying to run the most diverse team I've ever done in my Pokemon playing run. I have a couple of rules set, basically to get as many dual types as I can on the team, no overlapping types, and (probably the hardest part of this) trying to keep it Unova specific. I think I'm close to caving on the last part though. What I'd like are some suggestions movepool and Pokemon wise on the teams I'm setting up. The ones on the farthest left are the ones I'm running with currently. The team I'm running around with isn't final and is pretty much constantly changing, but having some suggestions to sift through would be fun:


Eelektross/Galvantula (My favorite two electric types in design and function. I love Eel but Galvantula looks like a cool way to get closer to that Team Duality I want to make)
Hydregion (Why oh why isn't Dark Pulse a TM in this one with this Sp. Atk monster?)/Dragonite/Garchomp (No matter what, there will always be a dragon on my team, this is something I've done since realizing Dragonite's majesty in RBY and never looking back afterwards. XD)
Dragonite/Crobat/Lucario/? (Totally out of it with how I want to set up the wildcard member)
Volcarona (Always wanted to run a team with some fun Bug shenanigans and the Sp. Atk helps tons)/Arcanine (OG right here XD)/Typhlosion (See Arcanine)
Carracosta (too slow, need something faster)/Poliwhirl (Fighting type is something I realized I needed badly for synergy after I dropped Scrafty from my team)/Lapras (<3 Ice seriously)/Starmie
Serperior/Exeggutor
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 22, 2011, 06:28:12 AM
Everybody I know had trouble with Hydregion, some mention that Ghetis is the only trainer outside of the battle frontier that EV trained his pokemon.  I've been trying to come up with stategies to go up against this Hydregion, since I'm not there yet since I play pokemon slowly.  

Now I think my permenant team will seem to have a problem with this guy since Ghetis taught this thing 3 moves that are super effective against 5 of my pokemon Emboar, Simisage, Carracosta, Zoroark, and Zekrom since I want to use this thing against N to make it more epic, so the only pokemon that doesn't have this problem is my Unfezant, and I'm sure as heck ain't depending on that to actually defeat that thing at all.  

The only possible solution I see for this is to catch a Meinfoo and evolve it into Meinshoa and replace Unfezant, go back to Wellspring Cave to get TM 47 Low Sweep and teach it to Emboar, Simisage, Zoroark and Meinshao, and keep hitting hime with Low Sweep to lower his speed and then it off with Meinshao's Jumpkick or High Jumpkick if it levels up to 56 at that period with Carracosta acting as backup with Blizzard because I can't get Ice Beam untill after I beat the game and maybe Zekrom though I don't think he will that mauch help.  Do you think this might work?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 22, 2011, 06:30:38 AM
The hardest part about this game for myself currently is realizing that I really need to keep on top of a lot of things in order to get the most out of the game. The stuff regarding events that I unfortunately missed by not getting SoulSilver earlier is coming back to haunt me. I wants a Zoroark. :(

If you have any GenIV game
http://gts1.ceolbox.net/pkm

The end of your event pokemon problems.

On another note, anyone else completely curbstomp all of the trainers through the main story only to get stopped up by Ghetis and not even his team really, but just his insane fast Hydregion? Also, anyone else having a hard time finding places to build level until you can handle all the trainers and wild Pokes in the eastern parts of the map? I feel like every other thing hands my ever changing team their asses badly. XD

Funny thing, it was the E4 which curbstomped me. Repeatedly. Then when I got to N he did give me a good fight (mostly my fault for doing random [parasitic bomb] with Reshiram allowing Zekrom to kill it though), then I curbstomped (well, kinda, still lost like 2 or 3 pokemon) Ghetsis and his Hydregion (thank you, Dragon Dance Haxorus XD).
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on March 22, 2011, 07:00:12 AM
If you have any GenIV game
http://gts1.ceolbox.net/pkm

The end of your event pokemon problems.

Thank you very much, Now I can get the Shaymin, Arceus, Deoxys, Jirachi, Heatran, Darkrai, and Manaphy I wouldn't be able to get otherwise (I don't own D/P/P. Just SoulSilver.)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 22, 2011, 07:50:20 AM
One final tangent, I'm really trying to run the most diverse team I've ever done in my Pokemon playing run. I have a couple of rules set, basically to get as many dual types as I can on the team, no overlapping types, and (probably the hardest part of this) trying to keep it Unova specific. I think I'm close to caving on the last part though. What I'd like are some suggestions movepool and Pokemon wise on the teams I'm setting up. The ones on the farthest left are the ones I'm running with currently. The team I'm running around with isn't final and is pretty much constantly changing, but having some suggestions to sift through would be fun:


Eelektross/Galvantula (My favorite two electric types in design and function. I love Eel but Galvantula looks like a cool way to get closer to that Team Duality I want to make)
Hydregion (Why oh why isn't Dark Pulse a TM in this one with this Sp. Atk monster?)/Dragonite/Garchomp (No matter what, there will always be a dragon on my team, this is something I've done since realizing Dragonite's majesty in RBY and never looking back afterwards. XD)
Dragonite/Crobat/Lucario/? (Totally out of it with how I want to set up the wildcard member)
Volcarona (Always wanted to run a team with some fun Bug shenanigans and the Sp. Atk helps tons)/Arcanine (OG right here XD)/Typhlosion (See Arcanine)
Carracosta (too slow, need something faster)/Poliwhirl (Fighting type is something I realized I needed badly for synergy after I dropped Scrafty from my team)/Lapras (<3 Ice seriously)/Starmie
Serperior/Exeggutor
So this is for the normal game let's see.

If you really want to teach Dark Pulse to Hydregion there is a way but it's a bit complitcated.  In D/P/P or HG/SS teach a Male Gyrados Dark Pulse with the TM then trade it to Black/White and breed it with a female Deino or whatever if you already have one and it can learn Dark Pulse.  Other than that teach it Flamethrower, Dragon Pulse, Surf, and anything else you want like Attract to mess with people.  Speaking of which I could catch a female Mienfoo and teach it that to mess with Ghetis...why did my team have to be a sausage fest?

Elektross has no weakness thanks to Levitate but the problem is that his main high stats are Attack and Special Attack as second highest rather than speed and plus his strongest electircal physical attack hurts him so it's hard to really exploite his good points so I'd go with Galvantula.  I would teach it Thunder Bolt, Bug Buzz/Signal Beam, Energy Ball for getting the Rock Types, and Volt Switch so that way it can escape the Fire Types and damage them significantly.

For the third I'd go with Lucario since you have Hydregion rather than Dragonite most likely and it has more bite than Crobat. Teach it Aura Sphere, Dragon Pulse, and Flash Cannon and maybe Heal Pulse if it survives something and needs to heal but it'll be hard since despite the fact it's a steel type it's defense is crappy.

What is up with Volcarona is it a pseudo legendary pokemon or something?  Okay I don't know how much you want to train this thing but if you're not going for 100 teach it Heat Wave/Flamethrower, Silver Wind, Sunny Day and Solar Beam.  But since Gavantula is already a bug type if you go for that I recommend switching to Charizard.

I actually like Carracosta since while is doesn't have speed it's defense is a little high than Metagross albeit with twice the weakness, plus you have a lot of Special Attackers as it is.  Try to get one with the Solid Rock ability since it reduces super effective moves by 25%.  Teach it Aqua Tail, and Earth Quake since it already knows Crunch and then teach it Curse since the speed is so low anyway.

Uh you know I really don't like Executor or Serperior and again you already have a lot of Special Attackers already so I'm going to recommend Torterra for the last one.  I recommend Wood Hammer, Crunch, Earth Quake and Synthesis so it can recover the damage from Wood Hammer and other things.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on March 22, 2011, 07:02:43 PM
Lots of fun ideas getting tossed around here, thanks Sakura! I didn't actually mean for my team to be balanced around any particular style or methods, I just like having a lot of options. Another thing of note is that I am pretty damn old school with how I develop my teams (i.e. pick favorites, make sure that the Fire, Water, Grass, & Electric types are covered and balance accordingly). I don't really pay attention to EVs nor do I do excessive breeding except for filling Pokedex or having Pokemon with unique/crafty move sets. XD

As it stands though, this is pretty much my standard team that I'd use for the remainder of the game and whatever e-battling shenanigans I get myself into. As it stands here and now, I'm still learning and trying to build accordingly. I'd love to dabble in building something with the current strategies or planning in mind though, which is why your post is pretty helpful to me.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Acid on March 22, 2011, 07:13:11 PM
I tried to play this game, Black version to be precise. And I couldn't get into it. Which still leaves Blue/Red as the only Pokemon games I played from start to finish. What a shame.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on March 22, 2011, 07:39:58 PM
Elektross has no weakness thanks to Levitate but the problem is that his main high stats are Attack and Special Attack as second highest rather than speed and plus his strongest electircal physical attack hurts him so it's hard to really exploite his good points so I'd go with Galvantula.  I would teach it Thunder Bolt, Bug Buzz/Signal Beam, Energy Ball for getting the Rock Types, and Volt Switch so that way it can escape the Fire Types and damage them significantly.

I would highly suggest substituting Thunderbolt with Thunder for Galvantula if it has Compoundeyes.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 22, 2011, 07:46:37 PM
I would highly suggest substituting Thunderbolt with Thunder for Galvantula if it has Compoundeyes.
Ah yes I forgot about that, it would be a good idea to do that.

Lots of fun ideas getting tossed around here, thanks Sakura! I didn't actually mean for my team to be balanced around any particular style or methods, I just like having a lot of options. Another thing of note is that I am pretty damn old school with how I develop my teams (i.e. pick favorites, make sure that the Fire, Water, Grass, & Electric types are covered and balance accordingly). I don't really pay attention to EVs nor do I do excessive breeding except for filling Pokedex or having Pokemon with unique/crafty move sets. XD

As it stands though, this is pretty much my standard team that I'd use for the remainder of the game and whatever e-battling shenanigans I get myself into. As it stands here and now, I'm still learning and trying to build accordingly. I'd love to dabble in building something with the current strategies or planning in mind though, which is why your post is pretty helpful to me.
Yeah I figured as much, I pretty much just followed that rule of not having the same type but at the same time not giving you pokemon that are somewhat difficult to raise like Serperior and Volcarona.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on March 22, 2011, 10:54:56 PM
So I started playing White, because, hell I might as well and no one replied to me in this thread.

So... so far, except improvement in graphics department, I only see same [parasitic bomb] as with all other POKEYMAN games.
Additionally, I just met 'N' and I already don't like him.

"POKEMON SPEAK TO ME THEY TALK THEY WHISPER THINGS TO ME!"

And he talks of liberating Pokemon.

Freeing Pokemon? BULLSHIT! THEY ARE MY SLAVES, I'M NOT FREEING DEM BITCHES!


I hope it gets better later, like, something really [tornado fang]ing awesome will happen. Please?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 22, 2011, 11:50:58 PM
Well, the endgame is pretty awesome if you ask me. Also, I'll be honest, making TMs infinitely reusable made this game SO much better just because I could actually experiment with them now instead of saving them all for god knows when and never using them. Also, only one required use of HMs for the story/to reach any of the towns was great.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on March 23, 2011, 12:20:31 AM
Well, the endgame is pretty awesome if you ask me. Also, I'll be honest, making TMs infinitely reusable made this game SO much better just because I could actually experiment with them now instead of saving them all for god knows when and never using them. Also, only one required use of HMs for the story/to reach any of the towns was great.
TMs infinitely reusable? AWESOME!
One requirem use of HMs for the story to reach any of the towns? WEEE!

Okay, I think I might play this longer now, if only because I want to see that endgame. : P
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 23, 2011, 07:24:17 AM
I must say, I'm really enjoying this thus far. Especially the battle music. It's really good.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 23, 2011, 07:38:32 AM
Suprisingly I actually like the story in this game a little bit better than the others, well it makes more sense than the other games for sure.

But yeah the music in this game is awesome the only downside in this game that I'm seeing is Emboar's move set sucking badly in terms of fighting type moves, Pansage before you evolve him, and Zebstrika doesn't seem to get many good moves either.  I know Emboar's big and all but it could at least learn Cross Chop.

On the other hand Zoroark and Carracosta are too awesome, some of the best I've ever had even.

Unfezant honestly I didn't expect much out of her but Piggeot, Starraptor, and Skarmory are much better.

Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 23, 2011, 07:49:21 AM
I must say, I'm really enjoying this thus far. Especially the battle music. It's really good.

Yeah, it's probably the best OST of the series if you ask me. It just annoys me that to hear some songs in all their glory you have to go out of your way to search for specific NPCs that will start playing an instrument/sing after that.

Still, man, the music for the fight with the legendary pokemon is amazing, and I just love the theme in N's final battle (which showed me a really kick ass fanart of the moment when listening to it on Youtube, so extra points to it).
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on March 23, 2011, 08:29:43 PM
Also, I'll be honest, making TMs infinitely reusable made this game SO much better just because I could actually experiment with them now instead of saving them all for god knows when and never using them.

^This, this, and this!  This is the first time that I've ever actually used a TM in-game while playing Pokemon, and it feels great!  I'm allowed to see early on what moves are a good fit, and now it feels like I've actually accomplished something by beating a Gym Leader, aside from the obligatory badge and all that.  Plus, now you're given more liberty when making teams, since the Gym Leader TMs aren't obtained only once anymore (and some others).  No one wants to play Voltorb Flip over and over again just to get more uses of Substitute.  >_<

Currently I've beaten the Elite Four and am working on grinding my team and trying to complete the Unova Dex.  After the game there is an immense power creep and you really can't touch any new trainers as they'll grind you to dust immediately.  Thankfully Audino's so friendly with the Exp.   8)  Interestingly enough, I found the game to be fairly easy throughout; I never blacked out a single time during my entire playthrough, and that's a first for any Pokemon game.  Only until the post-game does the game drop the bomb on you.

In terms of Pokemon being good for in-game, I'd have to note that Darumaka is broken!  Seriously, this thing will kill off most Pokemon with around 1 hit, thanks to Hustle.  Once it evolves and drops Hustle for Sheer Force, he seriously goes wild.  Fire Punch is a killer in the hands of this guy.  Catching a Tympole early on will seriously help you in the long run as well.  Electric immunity pays off quite a bit in this, especially against a certain gym leader.  I wasn't disappointed one bit by choosing Oshawott as my starter.  While I don't like the way it initially looks, it gets much better as it evolves and actually hits pretty hard.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 23, 2011, 10:29:49 PM
Currently I've beaten the Elite Four and am working on grinding my team and trying to complete the Unova Dex.  After the game there is an immense power creep and you really can't touch any new trainers as they'll grind you to dust immediately. 

Not really. Sure, they're 60 somethings vs your 40-50 somethings, but they're still only stage 1 60 somethings so they die to everything that is SE.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: X-3 on March 23, 2011, 11:51:00 PM
Believe it or not, I didn't have much trouble taking on most of the post-game trainers with Pokemon that had just hit level 50. I did think, at first, that I'd have to grind a lot. Then I realized that a majority of the trainers in the new routes were using under-leveled or just plain bad Pokemon. "Oh no! A level 63 Caterpie! I may have out sped that Weedle, but I'm sure this one will sweep my team with a crippling Tackle attack!"

So, uh...what Solar said.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on March 24, 2011, 12:40:48 AM
Some of them are stage one, and some aren't.  I'm possibly thinking of the wild Pokemon that you find in tall grass over the trainers themselves.  In B/W, you can find a LOT of fully-evolved Pokemon in the wild, especially stuff that you'd never have found in earlier games.  My jaw dropped when I found a wild Gliscor just sitting there, and there's quite a few others as well that are like that.  Depending on the area, they can be found close to level 70 (try outside of Kyurem's cave).  This does make Pokemon collecting easier, though, as you don't have to level up as many Pokemon just to get them evolved.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 24, 2011, 01:25:23 AM
The best part about that? You can also find pokemon that need evolution stones to evolve in the wild, saving you from spending one just to fill the dex.

Also, I'll be honest, if you're having trouble handling anything in the postgame other than maybe Kyurem because I haven't fought him yet and the actually strong trainers (E4 rematch/Cynthia more specifically), your team sucks, period. It's one thing if they're all weary from continuous battle, but if they're all full health? You really shouldn't be having any problem.



Anyways, extremely random question, am I the only one shipping the MC/Black with that girl you ride the Ferris Wheel with? >.> Seriously, I dunno why but the  "Just...just until we start to descend...Please...stay..." while she was crying combined with the music got me for some reason.

...I demand fanart of that pairing >.>
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on March 24, 2011, 03:12:06 AM
Nah, it's more of an issue with me being too lazy to buy items at times.  With Kyurem I was having more problems trying to not kill him than actually staying alive.  Bisharp's Defiant raises his Attack 2 stages if one of his stats goes down, and Kyurem has a move that's guaranteed to lower your speed.  Let's just say that I had to soft-reset often as an Iron Head that was meant to get his health low would outright kill him with his ability activated.  Thankfully the boost does nothing but good on False Swipe.  Caught Kyurem on my first Dusk Ball and was promptly killed by the first Sneasel I met (Ice Shard) as I was at low health with no recovery items on-hand.  -u-'
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 25, 2011, 06:00:29 AM
Fanart of pairing, none yet.
Fanart of the office girl crying, quite a number.


Well, finally got to the League in White, though it seems one of my Pokemon are a bit under-EV'd.
Samurott... Hell, he's slower than my Emboar!
Serperior, Emboar, Samurott, Unfezant, Krookodile, Vanilluxe... I think I'm ready. *grinds to lvl55 just to be sure*

Also, no mention of free Lucky Egg that you do not need to search frantically?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 25, 2011, 06:08:18 AM
Pfft, you're ove rleveled, none of my pokemon were even at 50 until I beat the E4.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 25, 2011, 06:19:37 AM
Bah, I'm just preparing myself for Zekrom, N, and Ghetsis. >.>
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on March 25, 2011, 06:26:19 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=759oWvskLRI&feature=feedu[/youtube]

A friend showed me this. I thought it was funny!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 25, 2011, 06:29:51 AM
Bah, I'm just preparing myself for Zekrom, N, and Ghetsis. >.>

My point stands because I got to level 50 with Ghetsis, and even then with only one poké >.>
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 25, 2011, 06:55:31 AM
My point stands because I got to level 50 with Ghetsis, and even then with only one poké >.>
... STOP LOOKING AT ME LIKE THAT!

And...
DO NOT F*** WITH METAPOD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 25, 2011, 07:00:34 AM
NEVER
>.> >.> >.> >.> >.> >.> >.>

...
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f278/katietiedrich/comic190.png)
Ok, that [tornado fang]ing got me XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on March 25, 2011, 07:06:42 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=759oWvskLRI&feature=feedu[/youtube]

A friend showed me this. I thought it was funny!
My god so many Psychic and Dark types, though I have to admit even with the Metapod I be his team would have been somewhat formidable.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 25, 2011, 07:07:40 AM
NEVER
>.> >.> >.> >.> >.> >.> >.>

...
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f278/katietiedrich/comic190.png)
Ok, that [tornado fang]ing got me XD
HELL YEA FIREFIGHTERS 8U
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on March 25, 2011, 07:08:00 AM
A well-balanced team can almost always decimate a team focused around one or two types.

(Pointless sage advice)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on March 26, 2011, 01:52:14 AM
Yeah, I learned that the hard way. I pretty much use Ragnorok to cover Snovert's weaknesses, while I plan to have Victini cover Ragnorok's weakness to fighting, possibly with Downy also covering both's water weakness too. Gigi could just cover a number of pokemon that are weak to bug types mostly/HM slave.

Anyways, extremely random question, am I the only one shipping the MC/Black with that girl you ride the Ferris Wheel with? >.> Seriously, I dunno why but the  "Just...just until we start to descend...Please...stay..." while she was crying combined with the music got me for some reason.

...I demand fanart of that pairing >.>

Most perfer the White/N pairing anyway, I've seen a [parasitic bomb]-ton of that everywhere, balance it out people! DX
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on March 26, 2011, 06:47:22 PM
Call me weird, but I'm more of a BlackxBianca person, especially with all the scenes with her looking out for Black and Black intercepting the father all those times... >.>

Meanwhile, request time, this one is for the breeders though. Can anyone hook me up with a Growlithe that has Flare Blitz & Close Combat? I need one for my "Team Kanto"
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on March 26, 2011, 08:21:36 PM
Well, I do have a box full of Growlithe's with Flare Blitz in my HG, some with pretty good speed IVs too actually. No CC though. If you don't mind that part much tell me, I'm gonna be really busy these days though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on March 27, 2011, 12:51:09 AM
Well, I do have a box full of Growlithe's with Flare Blitz in my HG, some with pretty good speed IVs too actually. No CC though. If you don't mind that part much tell me, I'm gonna be really busy these days though.

Close Combat is the crux for this one idea I'm thinking up, especially since my asking for Flare Blitz is just laziness on my behalf in regards to leveling up Growlithe until it learns it naturally. XD

It's OK if you can't do that Tai. On a side note, what's everyone rolling with currently as their main team?  After playing around for a bit, I finally have one team that I'm extremely proud of (or at least more than OK with):

[spoiler=Team Azure]Eelektross - Female/Naughty Nature (ATK monster here, kinda slow but can tank and packs a massive punch)

Crunch
Wild Charge
Thunderbolt
Brick Break

Didn't get too creative here, just had enough for coverages using it's high attack stat. Thankfully, the ground weakness issue is solved somewhat through Levitate, and fighting type moves are the new Normal type moves for general coverage of ass in the games.

Lucario - Male/Bashful Nature (Thinking about making it a mixed attacker since it has some really impressive attack & special attack stats)

Psychic
Aura Sphere
Close Combat
Flash Cannon

Psychic is there to shut down other fighters trying to get a easy KO off him, I don't think there's any real benefit to having Flash Cannon on this one even if it gets some hefty attack power due to stab & Lucario's high special. And with my next Pokemon, I'm thinking that Dark Pulse won't be necessary either. Any suggestions?

Hydreigon Male/Modest

Dark Pulse
Dragon Pulse
Flamethrower
Focus Blast

Man, Focus Blast is the weakest link in terms of moves I have set up for this guy. I prefer using moves with high accuracy over power ever since a particularly upsetting match I had with Sakura a while back that involved a whiffed Leaf Storm followed by a Blizzard counter attack. XD

At the same time, delicious 245 Sp. ATK at Level 76 is just something that needs to be used to it's max potential. If only it could learn Aura Sphere...

Volcarona - Male/Docile

Bug Buzz
Quiver Dance
Heat Wave
Flamethrower

I definitely know that I want to replace that Heat Wave with something to give this guy more coverage, especially after seeing how much rock moves that don't even look like they should fully KO it complete desecrate it. Problem is, what do I switch it for? Everything else is gold and Quiver Dance is easily the most broken [parasitic bomb] ever. You know it's good when someone who avoided stat modifying moves like the plague in pursuit of high damage + side effect carrying offensive moves though Gen I - IV says that. XD

Serperior - Male/Impish

Coil
Leaf Storm
Leaf Blade
Giga Drain

The only member of my team that needs a pretty serious bit of rethinking. I liked the idea of running something with stealing health initially since Serp can take a hit and moves fast enough to get its way beforehand. Initially, I wanted to play with Leech Seed shenanigans, but I don't go deep with meta stuff like that, which then led to me playing around with Giga Drain in its stead. Leaf Storm is there because Leaf Storm is the answer to everything when you can blitz & tank. *Stresses the italicized heavily*

Leaf Blade takes advantage of Serp's unusually high attack stat well and gives me the option when I run into special defense walls like Jellicent and Coil is baby Quiver Dance. I still wish if Serp were part Dragon with wings. See Serpent Night Dragon from Yu-Gi-Oh for an idea. XD

I'm thinking about adding in an Aerial Ace somewhere there to give me some options against BEES, MY GOD the large amount of new & awesome bugs that I keep running into in matches. There must be something more I can do with this guy though, I really like him as a Pokemon and I never main a main team without my first pick starring a main role in it. Comments?

Jellicent (Thinking of giving it a nickname - either "Pringles" or "Curleh" XD)

Surf
Ice Beam
Shadow Ball
Sludge Bomb

Probably the first tricky Pokemon I've latched on to because of its trickiness. Another special attack specialist, this guy gets in and walls for the team with it's equally high defense and special defenses while dealing out wide AoE attacks (hoping to switch Sludge Bomb with Sludge Wave) with the potential of either poisoning a Pokemon or two or blocking the use of a certain move thanks to Cursed Body effect.

(No I was not inspired by Shauntal in the raising of this one... Even if she is the best new E4 member... <.< >.>;)[/spoiler]

As much as me telling you all of this ruins the surprise of me busting this stuff out in matches, I love strategics and learning more about what works and doesn't in broad senses.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on March 27, 2011, 01:28:45 AM
I was gonna do something completely stupid with my pokemon nicknames and name them after giant robots.  8D

[spoiler]

- Getter-1/Victini (Series: Getter Robo)
- Getter-2/Excadrill (Series: Getter Robo)
- Getter-3/Blastoise (Series: Getter Robo)
- Makinazer/Hitmonlee (Series: Mazinger Z)
- Big-Zam/Gigalith (Series: Mobile Suit Gundam)
- GaoGaiGar/Luxray (Series: GaoGaiGar/GaoGaiGar FINAL)
[/spoiler]

But in seriousness, I need to build a team that can cover one-another's weaknesses..hmm.. Anyone got advice?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on March 29, 2011, 01:32:13 AM
So I have White now. The feel of this installment is radically different. There are so many things to do only so far into the game, too.

In short: I love it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on March 29, 2011, 09:11:02 AM
I was gonna do something completely stupid with my pokemon nicknames and name them after giant robots.  8D

[spoiler]

- Getter-1/Victini (Series: Getter Robo)
- Getter-2/Excadrill (Series: Getter Robo)
- Getter-3/Blastoise (Series: Getter Robo)
- Makinazer/Hitmonlee (Series: Mazinger Z)
- Big-Zam/Gigalith (Series: Mobile Suit Gundam)
- GaoGaiGar/Luxray (Series: GaoGaiGar/GaoGaiGar FINAL)
[/spoiler]

But in seriousness, I need to build a team that can cover one-another's weaknesses..hmm.. Anyone got advice?

Marriland's team builder (http://pokemon.marriland.com/black_white/team_builder) works wonders when evaluating what types you've got covered. Steel blocks pretty much everything except Fighting, Ground, and Fire, and the first two can be blocked by a lot of Ghosts.

Makinazer gets my full support, btw.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on March 31, 2011, 08:26:41 AM
Damn, looks like my team has a weakness to water. I hope Hypershell is still around to help me train my team.  :3
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on March 31, 2011, 11:38:45 PM
Don't worry, he is.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on April 01, 2011, 10:08:34 PM
Oh my GOD.
OH my GOD
OH MY GOD
This is bullshit.
I have to fight Ghetsis after N?
[tornado fang]
And everything is over level 52, and I only have up to level 49.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 01, 2011, 10:15:36 PM
I'll admit that was a bit harder since you don't get to heal. His leading pokemon was an ass since he used Toxic and then Protect. I only used 1 lead pokemon at the time and a few throw aways. Still my pke was dead by the time the 2nd poke came out due to badly poisened dmg.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 01, 2011, 10:29:18 PM
And just to show how much of an evil bastard he is, they gave him a hacked Hydreigon since those things evolve 10 levels later than the one his is at.

I'll admit that was a bit harder since you don't get to heal.

You do actually, otherwise a glitch must've revived my pokemon that N took down.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 01, 2011, 11:36:12 PM
Oh, what? I must of not paid attention. Maybe because he took some off mine down hard before I finally realized I was on my last 2.c -AC
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on April 02, 2011, 12:20:53 AM
Actually I found Ghetis to be easy for me since I had Meinshao, then again my pokemon were lv 50 before I took on the Elite 4.  Also was catching Zekrom/Reshisham supposed to be that easy?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 02, 2011, 12:36:21 AM
I had a really ballin' team of 50 - 52s + Reshiram for that fight and Hydreigon alone was Megaman-ing the [tornado fang] out of them. Between the most accurate Focus Blasts ever (brutalizing the Scrafty & Carracosta on my team then), Flamethrowers (Serperior), Surf (LOL Darmanitan), and Dragon Pulse for cleanup (Reshiram), the only thing without coverage was Eelektross and it pretty much just outsped me the whole way through. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 02, 2011, 01:24:57 AM
All of my pokemon were sub 50 with the exception of Reshiram and I curbstomped Ghetsis anyways. Yay Reshiram and Dragon Danced Haxorus.

Also was catching Zekrom/Reshisham supposed to be that easy?

IIRC 40 something catch rate, so yes. Seeing how you're kinda forced to do it they had to. What surprised me about catching legendaries is that I caught Kyurem in my first Dusk Ball, and that bastard is supposed to have a catch rate of 3 like everyother legend. Yay me I guess.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on April 02, 2011, 01:32:31 AM
Lesse...
As of now, I have a Samurott, Unfezant, Simisear, Cofagrigus, Reuniclus, and Pawniard.
Everyone except for the Samurott and Simisear all have Natures that lower S. Defense, out of [tornado fang]ing bad coincidence. All are at 49. I wonder if a Bisharp would solve my problems?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 02, 2011, 03:38:06 AM
Actually I found Ghetis to be easy for me since I had Meinshao, then again my pokemon were lv 50 before I took on the Elite 4.  Also was catching Zekrom/Reshisham supposed to be that easy?
Yep. Their catch rate was high enough that you can capture it with Quick Balls in the first 2 or 3 turns.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 02, 2011, 06:06:08 AM
...You have GOT to be kidding me. A friend at school asked me if she could play my game for a while, and I said yes as long as she didn't save. She was telling me how she usually finds rare stuff when other people let her play after I saw surprised that she found a wild Pupitar. When she was done she gave me the DS back and told me that she had found a couple of items and stuff, so I saved because why the hell not. Flashforward a couple of hours later, I turn the game on and head for the Pokemon Center because she fainted pretty much all but two of my pokemon, and what does Nurse Joy tell me? My pokemon caught Pokerus. I had never, EVER gotten Pokerus before in ANY generation. Never. She wasn't freaking kidding o__O

So...what am I supposed to do with it? D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on April 02, 2011, 06:20:43 AM
I had a really ballin' team of 50 - 52s + Reshiram for that fight and Hydreigon alone was Megaman-ing the [tornado fang] out of them. Between the most accurate Focus Blasts ever (brutalizing the Scrafty & Carracosta on my team then), Flamethrowers (Serperior), Surf (LOL Darmanitan), and Dragon Pulse for cleanup (Reshiram), the only thing without coverage was Eelektross and it pretty much just outsped me the whole way through. XD

For me it was like this:

Haxorus + Mold Breaker + Dragon Dance = Epic Victory!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Krystal on April 02, 2011, 06:33:43 AM
Uuuuh, infect everyone with Pokerus and then store someone so you have a copy of the virus? >_> <-- not really a pokemon person.

...And then give the game back to your friend?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on April 02, 2011, 07:09:23 AM
Pokerus doubles the amount of EVs you get, so you want to spread that bad boy like wildfire.  It's only contagious for a day, so it's something that you want to do ASAP.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 02, 2011, 07:36:35 AM
And literally put at least on pokemon with pokerus in your Box. that way it infects other pokemon and you'll never have worry about it going away, I think. I wish I had it. 6 SP Evs x 2= 12 ZP evs, I would have been earning. Cuts the time in half.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 03, 2011, 01:52:24 AM
Well, that's exactly what I did. I don't do the whole EV training thing (yet at least) because I'm more of a collector than a battler, but still want to keep it :D

Speaking of collecting, what's the best way to get EXP outside of an E4 run? They'd totally destroy my team, they certainly aren't the same as Sinnoh's E4 which I honestly had no problem defeating even though they were up to 20 levels higher. If I'm gonna have to use all of my revives and full restores for it then it's not worth it. I gues I could use Arceus and stuff but tha't'd take out the fun of actually getting into the Hall of Fame.

So far I've just been doing daily Black City battles and driving the Audino population to extinction on the route outside (with a lucky egg of course), dunno if there's something else I could do. This Deino sure isn't gonna level itself from 1 to 60 something itself -___-

Btw, anyone wanna trade version exclusive pokemon or something?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: ZeroCracked on April 03, 2011, 01:55:34 AM
Well, I downloaded the ROM for Black, but I can't level up due to a bug. It's no problem since I'm planning on legitimately buying it, but I still wanna play. :(
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 03, 2011, 01:58:19 AM
I believe you mean anti piracy measure. Still, it's not like that hasn't been solved forever ago, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to play Japanese White version. Buy it anyways since you'd be missing on all of the C-Gear stuff (I'm pretty sure the thing crashed every time I turned it on -__-).
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Lunar Knight Zeke on April 03, 2011, 02:40:41 AM
Does anyone know where a good place to train a pokemon in Sp. Attack would be?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Reaperoid on April 03, 2011, 02:44:30 AM
Speaking of collecting, what's the best way to get EXP outside of an E4 run? They'd totally destroy my team, they certainly aren't the same as Sinnoh's E4 which I honestly had no problem defeating even though they were up to 20 levels higher. If I'm gonna have to use all of my revives and full restores for it then it's not worth it. I gues I could use Arceus and stuff but tha't'd take out the fun of actually getting into the Hall of Fame.

So far I've just been doing daily Black City battles and driving the Audino population to extinction on the route outside (with a lucky egg of course), dunno if there's something else I could do. This Deino sure isn't gonna level itself from 1 to 60 something itself -___-
Big Stadium, Little Court.
I'd found that's the best place to train. Just slap EXP Share on, and use your regulars to fight through.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 03, 2011, 02:47:33 AM
But then I wouldn't get a boost with the lucky egg, or would I? :/
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 03, 2011, 03:35:43 AM
Oh yeah, and I really would appreciate it if someone let me borrow their Thundurus or however that's spelled.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: ST Jestah on April 03, 2011, 03:41:14 AM
I'm pretty sure you do. Been training my team(s)/rejects for collection purposes in the stadium for a while now. It's a good place for exp, and a bit less tedious than looking for audinos, imo anyway.

Plus you make a lot of money fighting the rich trainers. Specially with the Amulet Coin. Also I'll take you up on that trading version exclusives mons (provided you have Black). And yeah sure, thundurus too, gonna have to ask you to let me borrow thornadus after you're done.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 03, 2011, 03:50:01 AM
Hurray, I'll let you keep Reshiram while I do that. Let me get my FC.

3653-9865-4277
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: ST Jestah on April 03, 2011, 04:08:01 AM
Sent you the FC through the PM.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 03, 2011, 05:12:52 AM
Sheesh, one whole hour of not being able to connect to each other -__-

Have any of you guys EVER been able to trade on Wi-fi? This was worse than trying to find a random match in Brawl.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on April 03, 2011, 06:06:26 AM
Does anyone know where a good place to train a pokemon in Sp. Attack would be?

Try the Celestial Tower on Route 7, Litwick and Elygem hand out 1 Sp. Atk EV each. Or you can try Heatmor on Victory Road (on the outside patches), which give 2 but they run from Lv. 37-40.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 03, 2011, 09:10:34 AM
But then I wouldn't get a boost with the lucky egg, or would I? :/
Not really. Training through E4 is the best thing I have found. Thankfully, I have a ghost pokemon that allows me to breeze through at least 3 trainers worth of EXP and share it with other pokemon. Once level 60, I think they are high enough to face them by themselves with the lucky egg, but it will take forever. Not sure if its me, but this E4 are much more tougher...
Sheesh, one whole hour of not being able to connect to each other -__-

Have any of you guys EVER been able to trade on Wi-fi? This was worse than trying to find a random match in Brawl.
Yep, I was able to connect with my brother so that he can get his own Alakazam. Sems like it counts as trades, so I can get that 2nd master ball if we just keep on trading. Much easier to catch Kyurem in the nature I want it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 03, 2011, 09:12:06 AM
Definitely not just you, it's pretty much the only E4 to ever completely and totally curbstomp me x___x
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 03, 2011, 03:55:50 PM
This gen's Elite Four + Cynthia or Blue as the final champion would have made this gen the hardest one ever perior. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 03, 2011, 09:37:28 PM
So, uh, I thought Pokerus only lasted 24 hours, why do my pokemon still have it?   o-O
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on April 04, 2011, 01:54:43 AM
You still reap the effects of it even after the prescribed time has elapsed, though you can't spread it anymore.  Though if it's still spreadable you may have to have the game running for 24 hours or something before that part wears off.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 04, 2011, 02:15:11 AM
The whole PKRS purple rectangle thing next to the names is still there, is that supposed to stay?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on April 08, 2011, 10:16:05 AM
It will go away after one gameplay day.
Then you'll get a happy face icon to show it's cured.

But of course, ensure there's a Pokemon that still has PKRS in a Box.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 08, 2011, 10:19:48 AM
You do realize that you're posting that a little too late right? XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 08, 2011, 10:35:20 AM
Finally defeated Cynthia without using a legendary pokemon. However, its going to be a pain training all my 6 members of my pokemon to 100 even with the lucky egg.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on April 08, 2011, 10:48:02 AM
You do realize that you're posting that a little too late right? XD
Deal with it. 8B
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on April 09, 2011, 04:32:49 AM
Just got this game.

Hilda and Hilbert are stupid [tornado fang]ing names.

OH, and I picked Snivy.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on April 09, 2011, 04:43:03 AM
OH, and I picked Snivy.
good, you made the right choice
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on April 09, 2011, 04:57:39 AM
good, you made the right choice
I honestly don't like any of the starters in this game to be honest but Snivy is most ceratinly not the best in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on April 09, 2011, 05:01:22 AM
true, snivy's not the best stat-wise (or moveset-wise) but its still all kinds of baller
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 09, 2011, 05:22:43 AM
I'm going through a bit of team reshuffling and breeding frenzy right now trying to get a new bunch of alternate teams set up. Just wondering though, does anyone have the Gen 4 starters (doesn't matter what evolutionary state or movesets) on hand?

Edit: All this Snivy talk only makes me wish Dream World was up. Snivy + Perversity is going to blow minds. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on April 09, 2011, 07:08:29 AM
Finally defeated Cynthia without using a legendary pokemon. However, its going to be a pain training all my 6 members of my pokemon to 100 even with the lucky egg.

I managed to grind many of my Pokemon to the mid to high-eighties on the Elite 4 and Alder. But it also helps that I'm trading between versions. Some of their Pokemon give me 10,000+ EXP.  :O

I'm going through a bit of team reshuffling and breeding frenzy right now trying to get a new bunch of alternate teams set up. Just wondering though, does anyone have the Gen 4 starters (doesn't matter what evolutionary state or movesets) on hand?

I have a female Chimchar if you want it. Be sure to PM me and perhaps we can arrange something.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2011, 01:44:13 AM
So, is anyone with White willing to help me get Landorus, while also trading for an eagle and registering Zekrom on my dex?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 10, 2011, 01:56:13 AM
I have black, but I do have a Rufflet & Braviary (either can be yours) and I have Zekrom for the dex. FC is 3482 2646 7699
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2011, 02:01:07 AM
Cool, need anything? I have event legendaries if you need. My FC is at the top of the page. Lets just hope this doesn't go like when I tried with Jestah and we just spent a whole hour in the lobby without being able to connect to each other >__>
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Acid on April 10, 2011, 02:06:01 AM
I have black

SHOULD HAVE FIGURED

DOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 10, 2011, 02:13:55 AM
Cool, need anything? I have event legendaries if you need. My FC is at the top of the page. Lets just hope this doesn't go like when I tried with Jestah and we just spent a whole hour in the lobby without being able to connect to each other >__>

I can browse through the boxes right? I don't have any idea what I could take given that I just spent the last few hours Poketransfering from my bro's HeartGold. If anything, you can just have them (Zekrom excepted) when I get on if I don't see anything.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2011, 02:14:44 AM
Ok then, I've been at the lobby for a while now >.>
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 10, 2011, 02:17:41 AM
Ok then, I've been at the lobby for a while now >.>

I think you're just going to have to list your FC right here, I can't find it. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2011, 02:18:33 AM
http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=3473.msg307782#msg307782

=P
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 10, 2011, 02:22:05 AM
http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=3473.msg307782#msg307782

=P

So I'm in the room and I don't see ya... I hope WFC isn't acting all screwy again.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2011, 02:25:10 AM
Really? I do and even tried to trade with you.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 10, 2011, 02:27:57 AM
Yeah, I even saw when it said you wanted to connect, but it's like I couldn't reply or do anything... I wonder what's going on. Gonna try to leave and rejoin now.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2011, 02:34:43 AM
Tried accepting my trading invitation?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on April 10, 2011, 02:42:03 AM
I have that Chimchar ready. Just let me know when you're ready to go.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 10, 2011, 03:04:43 AM
Tried accepting my trading invitation?

A few times. I even tried initiating some. Ah well, I'll try later, let me just get something from pyro real quick.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2011, 03:06:12 AM
K

*sigh* This is exactly like when I tried with Jestah -__-
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 10, 2011, 08:55:59 AM
I feel like doing some Poke-ney Wi-Fi things. No idea what though...
FC is 1893 0922 0713 (I got Black Version)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: ST Jestah on April 10, 2011, 06:06:52 PM
K

*sigh* This is exactly like when I tried with Jestah -__-

So it's not only me. I tried trading with Gaia before the two of us tried, but it just keeps us in some weird, un-replyable limbo. Battles worked fine though.
So Solar you wanna give it another try?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2011, 06:18:24 PM
If you're still here in one more hour, yeah.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 11, 2011, 01:13:59 AM
Ahem. Something has come to my attention:

*Gets on soapbox*

OK Game Freak, I was able to cope with the idea of no Dark Pulse TMs in gen 5 for whatever reason thanks to the wonders of breeding and hatching eggs, but this one chain breeding experiment is a load of BS. You're seriously going to tell me that Houndour/Houndoom can't receive Dark Pulse as a inherited attack from anything when in the previous gen, it was something not only possible but [tornado fang]ing recommended?! [/faux rage] XD

But my day wasn't so bad altogether. Guess who has/can offer baby Arcanines (or Growlithes for all you non-enlightened members) with Close Combat? 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 11, 2011, 01:16:51 AM
I'd like to have one of your babies, and by babies I of course mean Growlithes.

Wanna try trading again? I have to go in a few minutes so it'd have to be quick.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 11, 2011, 01:20:57 AM
It might be better if we do it later since I'm about to go myself. How long will you be gone for?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 11, 2011, 01:22:04 AM
Gonna go eating and maybe watch a movie, so absolutely no idea.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 11, 2011, 01:33:46 AM
But my day wasn't so bad altogether. Guess who has/can offer baby Arcanines (or Growlithes for all you non-enlightened members) with Close Combat? 8D

I wouldn't mind one at all.

Also, can someone post the Cyndaquil animation?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 11, 2011, 01:38:54 AM
Here

(http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/155.gif)

http://www.arkeis.com/animatedsprites.html
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 11, 2011, 05:13:05 AM
Awesome. Thanx!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 11, 2011, 08:07:34 AM
Having just evolved my Hydreigon right now I have to say, god damn, what was Nintendo thinking? I already thought that the levels the other pseudo-legends evolved at was too damn high, and now they made this guy evolve at lv64? -____-

I know they made leveling easier than ever in this game, but still, damn.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 11, 2011, 08:12:53 AM
Which is why many made WTF faces when they saw Ghentsis own one at lvl 50-something.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 11, 2011, 02:57:56 PM
I wouldn't mind one at all.

OK, when will you be online for it? Also, post your FC if possible.

Tai, I still haven't forgotten about you though. Hopefully WiFi will behave itself today and we can trade.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 11, 2011, 07:29:07 PM
OK, when will you be online for it? Also, post your FC if possible.

Tai, I still haven't forgotten about you though. Hopefully WiFi will behave itself today and we can trade.

Well I'm online now. And my FC is in the Wifi thread I believe! XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on April 11, 2011, 08:19:45 PM
Having just evolved my Hydreigon right now I have to say, god damn, what was Nintendo thinking? I already thought that the levels the other pseudo-legends evolved at was too damn high, and now they made this guy evolve at lv64? -____-

I know they made leveling easier than ever in this game, but still, damn.

Getting Larvesta to evolve into Volcarona will be a bit of a pain.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on April 11, 2011, 08:23:55 PM
Getting Larvesta to evolve into Volcarona will be a bit of a pain.

You could just catch the wild one.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on April 11, 2011, 08:25:12 PM
I'm a breeder so I try to raise one with the right nature and individual values so it's a bit of a gamble to get the one I want by catching it.

Though I think I'll stock up on Net Balls nonetheless.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on April 11, 2011, 08:26:00 PM
I figured as much.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 11, 2011, 08:27:45 PM
Getting Larvesta to evolve into Volcarona will be a bit of a pain.

If you have another version you should trade it there, trade boost+lucky egg+that Entralink exp+ ability thing is awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on April 11, 2011, 08:32:07 PM
Entralink Exp+ ability? Where did I miss that? 0_o
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 11, 2011, 09:05:44 PM
Have you used the Entralink like, ever? It's one of the abilities you can buy, right there with the money+ ability. Unless you can Entralink with 2 other games, one of each version, it's only gonna last enough for like 3 battles though >__>
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on April 11, 2011, 09:29:33 PM
Nope, I haven't because I grind on the Elite Four and Alden whose Pokemon give out generous EXP.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 12, 2011, 12:26:47 AM
Well I'm online now. And my FC is in the Wifi thread I believe! XD

Terribly terribly late, but I can do some trading now. UI added your FC, and mine should be on the last page for easy reference.

Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 12, 2011, 12:47:16 AM
Terribly terribly late, but I can do some trading now. UI added your FC, and mine should be on the last page for easy reference.



You meant two pages ago! XD

And I'm heading to the WiFI room now!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 12, 2011, 01:09:34 AM
Awesome nickname there PB. XD

Let me know how that Growlithe works out for you when you get the chance.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on April 12, 2011, 01:13:02 AM
LoL, thanx. And it'll take a while before I level him up, but yeah I'll let you know.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 12, 2011, 01:13:21 AM
Oh hey I'm here too.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 12, 2011, 01:47:05 AM
CC Growlithe's will have to wait Tai, but in the meantime I have Zekrom for Pokedex, is that ok?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 12, 2011, 02:08:24 AM
And if I don't get a Braviary out of the GTS right now that too if it's ok.

...you're still here though, right?

*checks GTS* Ok, it'll be only Zekrom. You wouldn't happen to have Thunderus too would you?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 12, 2011, 02:15:44 AM
My bad there Tai, I read your post before I realized what you intended to do there. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 12, 2011, 02:17:08 AM
Uh, Jeri, I got Braviary already ^^;

EDIT: Thanks for the help, tell me when there's more Growlithes :D

Also HOLY [tornado fang]ing [parasitic bomb] IT CONNECTED. THE FIRST TRY.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 12, 2011, 03:20:57 AM
Random troll tier thoughts, anyone else feel like Gothitelle and its evolutionary line should have been Dark/Psychic? 8D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 12, 2011, 03:28:01 AM
Well it certainly looks like it should.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on April 12, 2011, 03:52:24 AM
You know what's outrageous? No Giga Drain TM. Then again, they really upped the ante on Giga Drain, so I guess it's a force to be reckoned with.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 12, 2011, 08:05:37 AM
Looks like Dream World will be up on the 13th. I just can't wait to get a Dream World Snivy. That DW ability is one hell of a boost with leaf Storm.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on April 12, 2011, 09:21:13 AM
Looks like Dream World will be up on the 13th. I just can't wait to get a Dream World Snivy. That DW ability is one hell of a boost with leaf Storm.

Well, apparently it was discovered that almost none of the Gen 5 Pokemon have overworld sprites. After you get something in the Dreamworld, you have to talk to it's overworld sprite to get it in game...

You see where I'm going with this?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 13, 2011, 06:47:17 AM
Eh, I think we're used to waiting for the third version to get the good stuff >_>

Sadly.

Posted on: April 12, 2011, 08:39:33 AM
Just thought I should let you guys know that it looks like the Dream World is up already. I say "looks like" because I haven't tried it because of lack of Game ID right now and the whole only one hour thing >_>

Posted on: April 12, 2011, 02:53:37 PM
So, is there anyone online that could lend me their Thundorus? Please? Seeing those last 2 empty spots on my Unova dex with no way of getting filled is getting depressing :(
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on April 13, 2011, 04:13:28 PM
Just to satisfy my curiosity, I PokeSAVed a female Torchic with Speed Boost in Pokemon Diamond (my Pro Action Replay is incompatible with the firmware update that allows players to cheat in BW) just to see if it would pass down the ability when I sent it to White. Strangely enough, it actually work and now I'm breeding Torchics with Speed Boost without having acquired one from the Dream World.

Does that make me a horrible person? :P
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 13, 2011, 07:09:36 PM
Only if you compete with him. Um, any chance you can get me a snivy with contrary? =D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on April 13, 2011, 07:39:29 PM
Unfortunately my PAR doesn't work with Black or White, otherwise I would have already PokeSAVed a Snivy with Contrary... and a Salamance with Moxie for that matter.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 13, 2011, 08:15:18 PM
Still requesting a Thundorus here ^^;
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on April 13, 2011, 10:47:44 PM
Solar, lemmie get to post game, then we'll talk. Speaking of which, I have to backtrack to get the orb for Zerkom. Where's the masterball located at?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 13, 2011, 11:00:37 PM
They give it to you.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on April 14, 2011, 12:18:20 AM
They give it to you.

Lemme Guess, they only give you one? Like in every game?

Sure, Balance so you don't catch every single goddamn thing easily, but when Legendaries troll you with 3 shakes then break followed by no shakes at all for like 6 Ultra Balls its really frustrating.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2011, 12:30:34 AM
Well, you can get an extra after doing over 50 trades, but I don't remember exactly where in Castelia.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 14, 2011, 01:38:28 AM
Solar, lemmie get to post game, then we'll talk. Speaking of which, I have to backtrack to get the orb for Zerkom. Where's the masterball located at?
Prof. gives it to you right after you beat the 8th Gym Leader.
Well, you can get an extra after doing over 50 trades, but I don't remember exactly where in Castelia.
Top left hand corner in the Castelia City Poke Center is a man in a black suit and glasses. 50 trades = 1 master ball. Good luck with it though, since most people trade patrats for Zekroms!  O:<
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2011, 02:10:14 AM
And that's why you're the one that should be offering pokemon (also, the ingame trades count), which hasn't been much of a problem to me with the endless supply of Oshawotts I have due to my search of a shiny one =P

Alternatively, can't you just trade back and forth with a friend 50 times?

...I still want a Thundorus btw =(
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on April 14, 2011, 02:12:40 AM
Luckly I started off the trades with a few friends (3 trades, one being a back-and-forth trade. That should leave about 47 people left, and add Solar to the people trade list if I ever reach post-game before the next global event catching Thundurus).

I didin't knew I would get an extra masterball in this game though. Why now, may I ask?  -_-
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2011, 02:14:00 AM
Why what?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 14, 2011, 02:17:04 AM
And that's why you're the one that should be offering pokemon (also, the ingame trades count), which hasn't been much of a problem to me with the endless supply of Oshawotts I have due to my search of a shiny one =P

Alternatively, can't you just trade back and forth with a friend 50 times?

...I still want a Thundorus btw =(
Nope. Traded with a friend like 30 something times when we realized it only counted once.

Hmm, I need a Thundurus in the future.
I didin't knew I would get an extra masterball in this game though. Why now, may I ask?  -_-
They have too many legendaries and they know it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on April 14, 2011, 02:33:19 AM
Why what?

Well, as Akamaru pointed out, there's a great increase of Legendaries out there. But, it would've been helpful if they were nice enough to include the extra masterball in the other games too legally. :)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2011, 02:36:49 AM
They did, it's just that it was way too damn unlikely to win that lottery >__>
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Reaperoid on April 14, 2011, 03:46:47 AM
It counts trade sessions. Just continue to interact repeatably after each trade in the Union Room, and the 50 will stack up fast.
Either that, or use your iR.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on April 14, 2011, 05:26:22 AM
Why do you even need a second Master Ball? I never even found a use for the first one.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on April 14, 2011, 05:50:35 AM
It's for when Nintendo decides to pull a cocktease by giving us an event 'mon that's hard to catch (I.E. Low Catch Rate), silly~
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2011, 06:04:44 AM
So...every legend that's not the cover one? They all have a catch rate of 3 (even Kyurem, which I surprisingly caught on my first Dusk Ball. Go me?)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 14, 2011, 07:14:59 AM
So here I was thinking that I had to agree with Archer and admit there was no -blam-ing reason for Dream World except maybe the starters they might release exclusively. Then I see you can get a Dratini that eventually evolves into a Dragonite with the ability Multiscale. When at full heal, damage from an attack is only 50%. Way better than Inner Focus. Only problem is that I might have to spend at least 2 weeks doing the DW to get enough points to get there. So here's to a heartfelt emotion, "[tornado fang]"...  -AC
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2011, 07:23:05 AM
So here I was thinking that I had to agree with Archer and admit there was no -blam-ing reason for Dream World except maybe the starters they might release exclusively. Then I see you can get a Dratini that eventually evolves into a Dragonite with the ability Multiscale.

It's also the only way to plant any berries at all this gen.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on April 14, 2011, 01:37:32 PM
So here I was thinking that I had to agree with Archer and admit there was no -blam-ing reason for Dream World except maybe the starters they might release exclusively. Then I see you can get a Dratini that eventually evolves into a Dragonite with the ability Multiscale. When at full heal, damage from an attack is only 50%. Way better than Inner Focus. Only problem is that I might have to spend at least 2 weeks doing the DW to get enough points to get there. So here's to a heartfelt emotion, "[tornado fang]"...  -AC

Honestly, quite a few Pokemon get tons of benefits from the Dream World abilities.  I don't really think that Multiscale is that great, though.  Reason being is that after switching into an entry hazard the ability is null and void. :\
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dantonumanoa Ongdolota Amycronicon on April 14, 2011, 03:52:24 PM
Lemme Guess, they only give you one? Like in every game?

Sure, Balance so you don't catch every single goddamn thing easily, but when Legendaries troll you with 3 shakes then break followed by no shakes at all for like 6 Ultra Balls its really frustrating.
That's why there are Critical catches.

How exactly does the Dream World work, anyway?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2011, 04:26:05 PM
Go here and do whatever it says there (you'll need to register)
http://en.pokemon-gl.com/
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on April 14, 2011, 10:33:56 PM
That's why there are Critical catches.

How exactly does the Dream World work, anyway?

What the hell is a critical catch.

Edit: Just because I leave my damn game on Sleep Mode means my time is all the way in the 74 hr zone, I've probably only played 4 of those hours. My Soul Silver isn't even that high on time!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on April 14, 2011, 10:36:07 PM
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It's one random variable in the already complicated catch formula. I don't understand why it's dumb; if anything, it makes things easier on those of us who like catching everything in Pokeballs.


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On rare occasions, a thrown Pokeball (any kind) will spin in the air (either before or after it sucks up the Pokemon) and catch it immediately with no shakes. I don't know how rare it is, though.

Those is what it is. :/
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 15, 2011, 01:38:24 AM
Quick thought, are Dream World shenanigans in any way linked to the DS used to access the Dream World? I wouldn't like it if I migrated my stuff to a 3DS in the future and had to re-create an account in order to get my goddamned Snivy with Contrary. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 15, 2011, 01:50:10 AM
AFAIK it's all cart related.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on April 15, 2011, 05:17:58 AM
Played that "Fun" game on the Pokemon site for a free Eeveeloution.

I got Glaceon, yay me.

Also, if I did the HG/SS Celebi Event, can I still do the B/W event to get Zorua or do I have to get another damn celebi?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 15, 2011, 05:24:58 AM
I used the same one.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on April 15, 2011, 05:28:43 AM
Sweet, if it doesn't work I can just use my Shiny Beast Trio to get Zoroark and breed Zorua from that and a Ditto.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on April 15, 2011, 02:33:55 PM
The on-site Dream World minigames are pretty interesting.  The flying and ball bounce games were fun when I got used to them, but the ice cream one had me confused for a bit.  Got an Exeggcute with Harvest for my troubles, though!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Reaperoid on April 15, 2011, 03:05:22 PM
Pecha Berries are pretty decent for it, and can be found straight away.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 15, 2011, 09:43:57 PM
Got 3 of my pokemons to 100. Just about 8 more... Hate that legendaries are so damn hard to level even with the Entralink pass powers.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on April 16, 2011, 06:20:09 AM
Got 3 of my pokemons to 100. Just about 8 more... Hate that legendaries are so damn hard to level even with the Entralink pass powers.

I'm guessing you have just the one version, because I traded over my Axew (now Haxorus) and Deino (now Hydreigon) over to White from Black and I managed to raise them fairly quickly by grinding on the Elite 4. (Both are at Lv. 95-96 now).
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on April 16, 2011, 02:39:23 PM
"Game Sync has run out of energy, It will take one day to recharge it."

ITS BEEN MORE THAN A [tornado fang]ing DAY.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on April 17, 2011, 04:32:35 AM
Having the same problem here. I haven't visited the Dream World since Friday morning and it still says it needs to recharge.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on April 17, 2011, 09:16:57 AM
Odd, it's been a daily thing for me (well, except today/yesterday because of lack of an internet connection).
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 17, 2011, 10:09:30 AM
Finally did the Pokemon Eevee thingy and got myself a Leafeon.  :3
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on April 17, 2011, 04:10:19 PM
So, I understand you're supposed to find the Eevee at the Island of Dreams, but is it just luck?

Or maybe I'm incorrect?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Reaperoid on April 17, 2011, 05:02:59 PM
The Japanese PGL had the Eevee obtained through it's Campaign section, where it would just be added to the list of Pokémon that were to be sent in on the next Game Sync. I haven't been into the English PGL just yet, so I have no idea if there's anything similar to the Campaign section.

On another note, made an epic Kyurem capture.
Brought in a Nincada, to get a Shedinja for fighting it, which of course is immune to Glaciate and Endeavor (can't get much lower than 1HP lolz).
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on April 17, 2011, 11:32:40 PM
The Japanese PGL had the Eevee obtained through it's Campaign section, where it would just be added to the list of Pokémon that were to be sent in on the next Game Sync. I haven't been into the English PGL just yet, so I have no idea if there's anything similar to the Campaign section.

From what I've heard on Bulbapedia you get it at the island after its saved to your Trainer Account. Mine doesn't seem to save for some reason, so either I need to use a different computer, or I'm just [tornado fang]'d because the saving mechanism is broken.

And I really want a glaceon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 17, 2011, 11:40:30 PM
Two things:

- Modest nature Hydreigon is pure unadulterated curbstomp material. XD
- This is the first Pokemon game ever to make me switch my teams up a total of 15 times from first purchase to now. There are just too many different technologies coming to light daily (my current experiment involves a Reunicus with Magic Guard and Trick Room shenanigans) and I just can't seem to settle down and pick one specific group to call my mains like I could in every other gen. This of course kinda sucks though since I have like only 2 Unova Pokemon approaching level 100 and the rest flux from low 60s to high 80s. XD

I really want to try playing with Darmanitan again though, but y u so Styrofoam nuke for? XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 22, 2011, 09:01:48 AM
Well, my team is now complete. While not all of them are lvl. 100, so not all EV are taken effect, I highly doubt many can fight my team. Any takers?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 22, 2011, 06:06:07 PM
At the same time I don't feel like getting mauled, I really want to play some matches against RPM soon. I still don't know what kind of team setup I want to go for most, but I'm having fun with my little mishmash group of Pokemon and wonder how it would fare against some of the better Pokemon raisers & trainers here.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on April 22, 2011, 06:15:21 PM
I've been raising/injecting EV steriods into my pokemon since the RBY days. I'll gladly take you on once my Poke's stats are the stat conditions are met; and I reach yet to reach metagame anytime soon.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on April 22, 2011, 06:36:31 PM
I'm willing to battle sometime as long as it's no items. My team is mostly complete but I'm not heavily into the metagame.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 23, 2011, 03:28:55 AM
I am free right now if you guys want to fight.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on April 23, 2011, 08:30:11 PM
I'm willing to battle sometime as long as it's no items. My team is mostly complete but I'm not heavily into the metagame.

I must recant those words because I won't be able to make or take any challenges until after Wednesday.

But I did have a fun little thought. Wouldn't it be a kick if we created an RPM Pokemon League? Dibs on Fire!  8)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on April 23, 2011, 08:47:30 PM
But I did have a fun little thought. Wouldn't it be a kick if we created an RPM Pokemon League?

OK~ :cookie:

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Pocket Monsters (RPM) Gym Leaders:

KANTO
Pewter: Tsuyoshi
Cerulean: Cephi Yumi
Vermilion: PB
Celadon: Sakura Leic
Saffron: Hitomi
Fuchsia: Ninja Lou
Cinnabar: Dr. Wily II
Viridian: Sparky

JOHTO
Violet: Borockman
Azalea: Flame
Goldenrod: Sky Child
Ecruteak: Taiyo
Olivine: Milen
Cianwood: Satoryu
Mahogany: Jericho
Blackthorn: Saber

HOENN
Rustboro: Asvel
Dewford: TEKMK II
Mauville: Mirby
Lavaridge: Chaos IX
Petalburg: Rue
Fortree: Asena
Mossdeep: Meryl & Carrol
Sootopolis: Ares

SINNOH
Oreburg: Karai
Eterna: Ciel
Veilstone: Mic Sounders the 13th
Patoria: Sub Tank
Hearthhome: Quickie
Canalave: Acid/Cid
Snowpoint: Wanderer
Sunyshore: DZ
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 23, 2011, 09:44:26 PM
So who's got Unova?

Striaton:
Nacrene:
Castelia:
Nimbasa:
Driftveil:
Mistralton:
Icirrus: Akamaru
Opelucid:

I got Icirrus!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 23, 2011, 10:27:37 PM
We totally need to create our own E4s & Champions sometime. Maybe have a few of us who battle the best with Pokemon of a certain gen get to be that region's champ?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on April 23, 2011, 10:31:23 PM
Hmm I'm wondering if we should replace some of the Gym Leaders since a handful are gone now or just leave it as is.

We totally need to create our own E4s & Champions sometime. Maybe have a few of us who battle the best with Pokemon of a certain gen get to be that region's champ?
Ooh if I wasn't a Gym leader I would totally take the Hoenn spot.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 23, 2011, 11:07:39 PM
OK guys, I officially have a problem, namely I can't settle down and make a team that I like completely. XD

I love Hydreigon & Eelektross way too much, so they are staying on the team, but from the pool of Pokemon I'm looking at now, I have no idea what to think:

Fire: Infernape/Darmanitan/Volcarona/Arcanine

-My God, Infernape. No seriously my [tornado fang]ing God, Infernape. Thanks a ton Pyro for introducing me to this bad [chameleon sting]er right here. This Pokemon alone is responsible for so many single Pokemon battle wins I've pulled out just because of its amazing attack stats, speed out the ass (this thing is faster than my Hydreigon) and its typing. I am this close to considering it the third "unchangeable" party member. The only issue I have (while really meaningless in the long run) are that when I pick a starter, I have an annoying habit of wanting the other two starters on the same team. Curse you Pokemon anime, you childhood marketing machine you! XD

Volcarona is my runner up pick just because of its cool typing, the ability to shoot down entire teams with a proper Quiver Dance set up and well, because it just looks damn cool. Darmanitan is there because I feel like a Pokemon that was able to see me through the entirety of the main game without much issue should get a second chance as part of a team of mine. This feeling is also pumped up when I consider that Sheer Force is like I'm using the Incredible Hulk as a party member. XD

And Arcanine is there purely because he's one of my top 3 favorite fire types in design. It also helps that he got Close Combat to play with this gen.

Water: ???

- I really have no idea what to run here. All I know is that I'm tired of being out sped by damn near everything when I play using my Jellicent, Empoleon, or Swampert and since I haven't started up with the item metagames yet, I'm trying to keep my selections viable in the barebones state. Right now I'm experimenting with another old favorite, Milotic, but I never really realized how straight forward the options were for it. (You can run water sets, water/ice sets, or sets for stalling... Yay?)

And before anyone says anything smart, I'm already looking at a Gyarados set.

Grass: ???

Same situation as before, except the 'mon I'm looking at are Torterra, Exeggutor, Serperior... And I'm not really feeling anything with them, Serperior excluded (dammit, I still want that DW Snivy). With Torterra, it has a great typing, lots of bulk, and a great attack stat, but its speed, dual weakness to Ice, inability to obtain Seed Bomb through leveling & the next best physical Grass move (imo), Wood Hammer, having recoil damage kills me slowly. Exeggutor also has a 4x weakness to something (bug), and pretty eh speed, but at least it comes with a Psychic subtyping meaning I can have something for Psy stabs without dedicating an entire spot on the team to it alone. Serperior is completely situational right now. I have no access to DW and no understanding of how it works, but at the very least I know that it's the strongest candidate for a permanent spot thanks to Contrary/Leaf Storm shenanigans and dat speed.

I was also looking at using a Sceptile or Ferrothorn for a bit too, but got crushed when I realized that Sceptile's awesome movepool is mainly physical (back in the day, I never took stuff like this into consideration and just thought that Scept was just outright amazing for what it could pick up normally.) and thorn is insanely sloooooow.

Wildcard: Reuniclus/Lucario/Scrafty

These guys depend almost entirely on what my setup with the other members of my team turns out to be. I don't want to create any abusable redundancies in the team or make opening for one type to come in and sweep, but since i havent gotten far enough along to make the final calls, this much is up in the air. Of these guys though, Reuniclus came the closest to being permanent due to me having a bunch of slower team members and it having the bulk to tank and set up a Trick Room for them to play in. I decided against it though since most times, I'd be looking at eating something heavy as Reuniclus tries setting up thus making the whole thing backfire.

Hmm I'm wondering if we should replace some of the Gym Leaders since a handful are gone now or just leave it as is.
Ooh if I wasn't a Gym leader I would totally take the Hoenn spot.

I'd love to take RPM's Unova or Kanto positions. As for the older ones, I guess for now we can rationalize it and say we have/had a bunch of Giovanni's. XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on April 23, 2011, 11:29:58 PM
If it were me I would go with Infernape, Milotic, Torterra, and Lucario but that's just me.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 23, 2011, 11:59:31 PM
If it were me I would go with Infernape, Milotic, Torterra, and Lucario but that's just me.

We think eerily alike sometimes. Thing is with Lucario though, I did something stupid thinking that a physical sweeper Lucario was more viable than a special sweeping one and got rid of Nasty Plot on the one I currently have... Only to realize that Close Combat really can [tornado fang] him over when he isn't fast enough to deal with what's coming in on him or if something can wall it and a NP'd Aura Sphere is no [tornado fang]ing joke. I might raise a new one soonish though and run Nasty Plot, Dark Pulse or Psychic/Stone Edge/Extremespeed for cleanup.

And after giving it a little thought, I think I might actually go back to running with my Jellicent again. Cursed Body hax are just waaaay too good in this game.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Ramzal on April 24, 2011, 12:29:59 AM
Infernape is the way to go. He's my main damage do'er. I need a bit more stucture with my team though.

Parasect
Gardevoir
Infernape
Raichu
Braveiary
Thatfossilturtle who's name I forgot.

Gardevoir with trick room helps so much when it comes to Parasect and Turtle. Spore with Parasect and life draining with Giga Drain or X-scissor as well as the Turtle with Curse and heavy attacks like Aqua Tail, Stone Edge and Ice Beam (For the lovely psuedo Legendaries that people love. :D) But I'm thinking of switching out Braveiary and maybe Raichu. Thunderwave is useful with Raichu without a doubt but all I mainly have is electric attacks with him. And Braveiary is good for heavy flying damage and Superpower, but it dies kinda easily.

On a side note, there are a -lot- of rage quitters online. >_> (First time jumping online with pokemon.)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 24, 2011, 12:34:02 AM
I just came up with something devilish, but I need some help achieving it. Anyone here have a Hitmonchan with Vacuum Wave handy? If so, let me know, and we'll see what kind of trade we can work out.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on April 24, 2011, 02:27:49 AM
-My God, Infernape. No seriously my [tornado fang]ing God, Infernape. Thanks a ton Pyro for introducing me to this bad [chameleon sting]er right here. This Pokemon alone is responsible for so many single Pokemon battle wins I've pulled out just because of its amazing attack stats, speed out the ass (this thing is faster than my Hydreigon) and its typing. I am this close to considering it the third "unchangeable" party member. The only issue I have (while really meaningless in the long run) are that when I pick a starter, I have an annoying habit of wanting the other two starters on the same team. Curse you Pokemon anime, you childhood marketing machine you! XD

Moi? If so, then you're welcome.  8)

Anyhoo, I'd take either the position of Lavaridge Gym Leader or Flint's position on the Sinnoh Elite 4. Gotta live up to my name and all.   ;)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on April 24, 2011, 03:32:06 AM
I tried a Trick Room Gardevoir once but I shot myself in the foot when Hypershell just happened to switch in his Steelix the same turn so I vowed never to use it again.

Now I'm going to replace my Feraligatr, Gardevoir, and Salamence with a Milotic, Gengar, and Dragonite so I can get some more Special Attackers and I felt a decent Special Defense wall Dragon is more practical than a decent Speed one.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 24, 2011, 03:49:23 AM
So I realized that my Zoroark can learn a Physic move and it was hard trying to breed it into him. Now I just need him to be of Timid Nature and I am done with that guy...
BTW, so I can be fair, my team is:

Archeops
Chandalure
Meinshao
Haxorus
Volcanora
Zoroark

What I also considered was Sawk for his Sturdy ability, Whimsicott for his Prankster ability, Darmanitan for his scary stats, Carracosta because I don't have any notable Water/Ice attacks, Elektross for having literally no weaknesses, Cryogonal for same reason as Carracosta, Hydriegon for his ability to master Physical and Special attacks, and Accelgor  for his monster Speed. Should I eplace any on my team for the ones I mentioned?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on April 24, 2011, 04:03:47 AM
Well I think I would replace Chandelure with Carracosta since you have 2 fire types and Hydrgion in my opinion has better stats over all than Haxorus.  Between Sawk and Meinshao I say it's a toss up but I honestly prefer Meinshao.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 24, 2011, 04:05:18 AM
That team looks scary as [tornado fang]. Bad enough you have my kryptonite on that team in Haxorus, but Volcarona & Chandalure too? XD

Edit: Anyone up for trying a few mock battles with me now? A good portion of my team aren't leveled accordingly though (high 80s, low 90s) but I'd like to see what I can pull off in a battle with RPM folk now.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 24, 2011, 04:47:05 AM
If your still on, I can battle!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on April 24, 2011, 05:06:50 AM
Well, now that I'm at metagame, I'm thinking about putting together a speed-based team, with a hint of sp. atk to go with that. Victini may be out of the question, due to it's legend tier. I'll plan the moves once the team has decent speed attributes (around 50+ or so), got any suggestions? Maybe afterward I could try them out with any of ya.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 24, 2011, 05:34:06 AM
Accelgor, Weavile, Alakazam, Sceptile, and Whimsicott are the only notable speed pokemon that I know of and aren't legendary. You'll have a glaring Fire weakness, though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on April 24, 2011, 05:38:41 AM
Well, if I could get one of them to know a water-type move, that could cover up said weakness. Luckily enough, I got 4/5 of the pokemon you suggested, but I might need to breed another Sceptile just right so that it could outrun most fire-types, and probably teach it a ground (or a rock) move to help cover that weakness.

The only alternate speed-demon from Unova is currently Serperior. He could be a mainstay too.. hm.. Lucario's pretty fast, but I might want to have a fresh speed-team, so count him out, unless I might want to cover the fire weakness. Then the team may be severly crippled by Ghost-Type moves, which I have to think about that, but if Celebi can learn Shadow Ball, so can Alakazam.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Reaperoid on April 24, 2011, 08:01:43 AM
My Black(J) team is alright, I guess.
Arcanine, Espeon, Lantern, Breloom, Gliscor, Bisharp

Espeon is pretty badass, though. Sure, not enough speed (then again, 301 is respectable), but S.ATK is through the roof combined with Psyshock to rip up just about anything.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Ramzal on April 26, 2011, 12:52:54 AM
I feel happy with my current team and what it causes. People to rage quit. XD

Blissey
Braviary
Jolteon
Blastoise
Infernape
Abomasnow

I put Blissey in the middle and protect, have jolteon thunder wave whoever is the fastest on the middle or right side, and then have Braviary use tail wind. I've caused eight people to rage quit JUST from that.

Edit: I've made six people rage quit in a row now. XD I'm not even that good and this team isn't even that beefy.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 26, 2011, 08:24:38 PM
Sooo... I am torn with what I should do with my Zoroark. I don't know whether to breed him with Extrasensory to fight against his weakness, Fight, teach him Grass Knot to cover Ground and my Water weakness or U-Turn in order to have full use of his Illusion ability. What do you guys say?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on April 26, 2011, 09:17:42 PM
Sooo... I am torn with what I should do with my Zoroark. I don't know whether to breed him with Extrasensory to fight against his weakness, Fight, teach him Grass Knot to cover Ground and my Water weakness or U-Turn in order to have full use of his Illusion ability. What do you guys say?

The U-Turn strategy has amazing potential, but if you go that route, make sure you have enough bite to make it worthwhile. Otherwise, Extrasensory is the better choice.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 03, 2011, 09:34:34 AM
Damn, in that case, does anybody have a Ditto with Timid nature they are will to let me borrow?

Posted on: April 26, 2011, 08:59:55 PM
Alright guys. I am ready to fight. Anyone willing to try out my tricked out team?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 04, 2011, 01:12:27 AM
I tried a Trick Room Gardevoir once but I shot myself in the foot when Hypershell just happened to switch in his Steelix the same turn so I vowed never to use it again.
You know, not that I don't consider myself a good player, but lady luck seems hell-bent on scarring my fellow RPMers for life when they battle me.  Just ask the last person to use Latios as a lead against me. >w<

Well, if it makes you feel any better, I have jack squat in the way of a 5th-gen team.  Hell, I still don't have my second badge.  3DS swept me up and I only just yesterday jumped back into White (will likely stay on that until the Legends 3 Prototype hits).  Been researching on Serebii who I want to use in-game (oh, Audino, why can ye not evolve?).
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Protoman Blues on May 04, 2011, 04:59:31 AM
You know, not that I don't consider myself a good player, but lady luck seems hell-bent on scarring my fellow RPMers for life when they battle me.  Just ask the last person to use Latios as a lead against me. >w<

At least I had the pleasure of making you alter your strategy once!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on May 04, 2011, 10:41:40 AM
I've been raising/injecting EV steriods into my pokemon since the RBY days.

I doubt that.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 04, 2011, 12:47:40 PM
You know, not that I don't consider myself a good player, but lady luck seems hell-bent on scarring my fellow RPMers for life when they battle me.  Just ask the last person to use Latios as a lead against me. >w<

Well, if it makes you feel any better, I have jack squat in the way of a 5th-gen team.  Hell, I still don't have my second badge.  3DS swept me up and I only just yesterday jumped back into White (will likely stay on that until the Legends 3 Prototype hits).  Been researching on Serebii who I want to use in-game (oh, Audino, why can ye not evolve?).

You don't know bad luck until the first time in your life you miss an uber'd Leaf Storm against an opponent 4x weak to it, then get blasted with a 70% accuracy Blizzard in return. XD

In other news, I do believe that I've finally set up a team that I like. I might mix and match a bunch, but this is pretty much the foundation for everything:

Eelektross
Volcarona
Milotic
Whimscott
Hydreigon
Lucario

BTW, Eelektross is such a cool Pokemon. I wish if it were a little faster, but its design and ability has seriously grown on me.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: STM on May 05, 2011, 01:49:30 AM
Indeed. Elektross is one badass electric pokemon. I love that little blood sucker.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 08, 2011, 04:30:22 PM
A pure Electric with Levitate is pretty damn evil.  I'm looking forward to Galvantula, though.  May not be the toughest, but reasonably fast, and Electric/Bug is a pretty awesome combination (as is Thunder + Compoundeyes).

I need to hook up with somebody here for a trade evolution at some point.  Gotta power up my Buldore into a Gigalith.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 08, 2011, 08:32:33 PM
Still wish I could've been the Lavaridge Gym Leader...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 10, 2011, 03:26:43 AM

I need to hook up with somebody here for a trade evolution at some point.  Gotta power up my Buldore into a Gigalith.
Just message me when. My Yahoo Email thingy should tell me. I can do it within the next 6 hours or if not, tomorrow around 3 to 6 California time.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on May 10, 2011, 11:51:14 PM
Gladly.  I still need your friend code, though.  Mine's in the Wifi thread.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Jericho on May 20, 2011, 06:08:30 AM
Can anyone here hook me up with a Snover/Abomasnow? I'm trying to play with more grass types with funky mixtures and trying to overcome getting blown up by frequent Ice users.

Posted on: May 10, 2011, 07:55:59 PM
Really really specific request here, but it still needs to be asked, can anyone help me out with a Modest natured Nuzleaf with Dark Pulse and a Leaf Stone? Man, if I only knew beforehand how important/helpful it would be to have a copy of Superior Silver handy for these ideas I randomly get...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: dragontamer272 on May 23, 2011, 07:03:39 AM
I have White Version, so far I'm still training my Poke'Mon to head for the Poke'Mon League. I've got all 8 Gym Badges, but I'm still training, trying to get all of my Poke'Mon to Levels 50+.

My Party:
Dewott (level 46)
Gurdurr (level 45)
Simisear (level 45)
Pidove (level 45)
Emolga (level 48)
Sandile (level 46)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on May 27, 2011, 06:00:57 AM
Gladly.  I still need your friend code, though.  Mine's in the Wifi thread.
Sorry! The day I said I would help, my internet was cut off. Finally paid for it.  >BD
I can help now if you need it!

On a side note, I have fully trained my team. Who wants to try them?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Setsuna F. Seiei on September 13, 2011, 01:39:04 AM
CONFIRMED FOR BRAWL
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1617/1315840250431.jpg (http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1617/1315840250431.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI2COawqMJQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=118s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI2COawqMJQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=118s)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on September 14, 2011, 12:39:23 AM
CONFIRMED FOR BRAWL
*smacks Setsuna with a magic fish*
DON'T DO THAT!!!

But thanks for sharing. 8)

B/W event, awesome news.  I'm surprised they're not giving him his Dream World ability, but still, his B/W signature attack is badass enough.  Remains to be seen if he'll have any event-exclusive attacks (come on, Nasty Plot...).

Sorry! The day I said I would help, my internet was cut off. Finally paid for it.  >BD
I can help now if you need it!

On a side note, I have fully trained my team. Who wants to try them?
Definitely.  The 3DS kinda diverted my attention from my 'mans, so my Buldore is still sitting around unevolved.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on November 25, 2011, 11:23:00 AM
Definitely.  The 3DS kinda diverted my attention from my 'mans, so my Buldore is still sitting around unevolved.
...
I am back from the dead and necro-posting, but replying to my offer to help 4 months late is something else... Umm... If you still need help, I guess, I am still around. Just PM me.

Oh and hey everybody. Let's see... Happy Holloween, Happy Thanksgiving, and Happy... whatever else I missed. :D
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on November 25, 2011, 05:31:31 PM
I appreciate that, 'maru, but in 4 months I found enough time to beat the game, and booted Buldore for Carracosta.
But man, that Hydreigon is evil, I tell ya.  EVIL!  EEEEVIIIIL!!!

Next item on my list is getting my Dream World Dratini; unfortunately he requires an absurd amount of points and those minigames can get positively mind-numbing after a while, so I've had that on the back-burner again lately thanks to all the nifty released-November-to-Christmas games out there.
Title: Pokémon Gray disconfirmed, Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 confirmed instead.
Post by: Solar on February 26, 2012, 12:29:14 AM
Hey guys
(http://emifull.jp/image.htm?file=/system/shop/4778/1330158713134.jpg&width=500)

I'm sure you know what this means :P

Posted on: February 25, 2012, 04:40:57 PM
Source is Pokemon Smash which aired just now.

I...wat?

Oh, and Serebii says they're for 3DS, but I think he's wrong on that one.

Edit:
(http://i.imgur.com/vwMlz.jpg)

Yeah, it's DS.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on February 26, 2012, 12:51:58 AM
Well, uh... this is strange.

No 3rd Version but instead Sequel versions?
And not on the more advanced console a la Crystal?

I'm noticing some Fire/Ice theming going on as well.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on February 26, 2012, 12:53:45 AM
It's actually Fire/Ice / Electric/Ice because of Kyurem.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Karai on February 26, 2012, 02:14:10 AM
Bizarre... but very interesting. I guess that also means no RSE sequel for some time.
Title: Re: Pokémon Gray disconfirmed, Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 confirmed instead.
Post by: Dr. Wily II on February 26, 2012, 05:04:56 AM
Yeah, it's DS.
Yea, but it's mentioned that that are some additional features if played on DSi or 3DS.

Also, it's not like no-one didn't see this coming, maybe except on the part that it's a "sequel".
Thinking that Black Kyurem (Zekrom) forme and White Kyurem (Reshiram) forme will be implemented similarly to the Griseous Orb on Giratina: A hold item that's exclusive to the respective Dragon, with the added bonus of power boost.

Still...
Doesn't bridge the gap that both Reshiram AND Zekrom "broke off" from Kyurem...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: megaman24681012 on February 26, 2012, 05:50:40 AM
Initial reaction:  :O WTF happened to you, Kyuurem/Reshiram/Zekrom?!?!

Second Reaction: Oh, they're Kyuurem's transformations.  ::)

Third reaction:  [objection!] WAIT A MINUTE. What was the point of Nintendo chugging out numerical sequels? I mean, maybe they wanted to continue the story of the originals but they could have just made the theoretical Pokemon Grey/Gray AND promote the dual transformations of Kyuurem at the same time. Eh, maybe Nintendo wants to milk what's left of the DS' life for a bit more cash.

Fourth Reaction: Took them goddamn long enough to announce this! I knew there was going to be an updated edition of some kind! Still bummed out that they didn't just make one game called "Pokemon Grey/Gray". Ruined the whole thematic naming shtick that made each versions of the Pokemon games unique. Still gonna buy them though!  
Title: Re: Pokémon Gray disconfirmed, Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 confirmed instead.
Post by: Hypershell on February 26, 2012, 07:04:48 AM
Yea, but it's mentioned that that are some additional features if played on DSi or 3DS.
So do Black/White, though, so that's not really news.

I'm a little bummed.  I mean, yeah, we all should have seen SOME B/W revisiting as a given, but they were pretty darn late in the DS's lifespan to begin with.  I was really hoping for a legitimate 3DS Pokemon game (that and unlikely as it may be, I still dream of the day that the current EV system is abolished; this business of any 'man used in-game turning into garbage for competitions is just not acceptable to me).

That aside, Kyurem's new "fusion-ha"s with Reshiram and Zekrom look pretty awesome.  It's a shame that Ice is such a defensively horrible Type to be, or I'd be pretty excited.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on February 26, 2012, 04:55:50 PM
I wonder if BW2 will pick up on the thread about Ghetsis' fate. Didn't he escape at the end?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on February 26, 2012, 06:51:00 PM
I wonder if BW2 will pick up on the thread about Ghetsis' fate. Didn't he escape at the end?

Oh yeah, he did.

And maybe we'll see N again, after he redeems himself or something.

EDIT

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The new versions of Kyurem are AMAZING, and this is why.

The developers incorporated so many deep levels of Taoism into this Pokemon that it puts it on a level that I’ve hardly ever seen Pokemon get to.

I just felt the need to go make this huge chart to illustrate my point, because I know some people don’t approve of the new forms of Kyurem. Although I am completely for everyone having their own opinions, I felt like posting this to get this excitement off my chest.
A good point of view explaining Kyurem's new forms.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Pyro on February 28, 2012, 05:56:35 PM
According to Serebii, release of BW2 will be June 2012 in Japan. Autumn 2012 for North America/Europe.

Wow, that's a quick localization.  :O
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VirusChris on February 28, 2012, 10:50:37 PM
Well considering it's a direct sequel and most of the Pokemon and character names are already translated so it makes it much easier for them to localize faster.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on February 29, 2012, 02:34:52 AM
That and the fact that the 3DS actually took off probably lit a fire under their ass, in terms of sitting on original-DS games not being a good idea at this point.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: ChaplainMikelus on February 29, 2012, 03:48:19 AM
I'm confused about this whole thing. Are these new games going to actually have a new storyline, or are they simply revisions of the original 5th gen games?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on February 29, 2012, 09:38:23 AM
Well, the only way to find out for sure is to bite the bullet and buy the games.

If it's a sequel, I'm betting it would require a connection to your already-existing copy to continue YOUR story, otherwise it may as well just be 2 versions of Gray.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on March 01, 2012, 07:05:25 AM
Forgot to mention this, but I think it's very obvious now.

Remember there were 2 moves in the game code for BW, but was never seen in-game legitimately?

Freeze Shock (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Freeze_Shock_%28move%29)
Ice Burn (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ice_Burn_%28move%29)

Poeple have speculated these 2 moves to be Kyurem's signature moves, and now, lo and behold.

Black Kyurem: Freeze Shock (since it's an Ice move that resembles Zekrom's Bolt Strike)
White Kyurem: Ice Burn (since it's an Ice move that resembles Reshiram's Blue Flare)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 01, 2012, 11:45:45 PM
They just HAD to be retyped Sky Attacks, didn't they?  And here I was hoping Kyurem might actually become useful (comparable to his two ludicriously overpowered fellow dragons, I mean).
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on March 02, 2012, 12:52:58 AM
They just HAD to be retyped Sky Attacks, didn't they?  And here I was hoping Kyurem might actually become useful (comparable to his two ludicriously overpowered fellow dragons, I mean).
Last I checked, Sky Attack didn't inflict status effects. >3>
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on March 03, 2012, 05:13:18 AM
Not the point, as the effects are secondary (IE, Fire Blast causing a Burn doesn't make it any less Fire's version of Hydro Pump).

However, you last checked a long time ago.  Sky Attack inflicts Flinch as of Gen III.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sapphire Knight on March 03, 2012, 05:18:47 AM
Nevermind, I was unaware that Sky Attack inflicted a status effect (granted, I don't really count flinching as a real status effect since it only lasts the turn it's inflicted, even though bulbapedia does).
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VirusChris on April 12, 2012, 09:27:57 PM
New Update!
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/04/11/pokemon-black-and-white-2s-new-trainers-and-rivals-hit-japan-in-june/

From siliconera:
Pokemon: Black and White 2 has two new protagonists – a guy with a visor and blue jacket and a girl with brown Sailor Moon style hair. There’s a smug looking new rival too. The magazine also introduced Akuroma who is a researcher dressed in a lab coat. New gym leaders include Shizui who is water type and Homika who is poison type (note: names will probably change when Pokemon: Black and White 2 comes out overseas).

Pokemon: Black and White 2 takes place two years after the previous game and begins in Hiougi City. Players will be able to register 300 Pokemon in their Pokedex some of which will be brand new. We also have some details about the two Kyurems. Black Kyurem has Freeze Volt and White Kyurem has Cold Flare.

New Characters:
(http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/corocoro_may12_2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Akamaru on April 13, 2012, 03:22:45 AM
Players will be able to register 300 Pokemon in their Pokedex some of which will be brand new.
You mean to say there are going to be more than 640 something pokemons? I give up. There is no way to remember any and all types, attacks, and items this game could hold. Just make a team that like to [twin slasher] often and hope for the best, right?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on April 13, 2012, 02:42:59 PM
You mean to say there are going to be more than 640 something pokemons? I give up. There is no way to remember any and all types, attacks, and items this game could hold. Just make a team that like to [twin slasher] often and hope for the best, right?

Nah it just means that they're expanding the Unova dex, as in you can catch non-gen 5 Pokemon before beating the E4.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on April 14, 2012, 04:18:55 AM
That, or by "some" they mean the allegedly event-onlys that have yet to be released (Keldeo, Meloetta, and Genesect).
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on April 14, 2012, 05:23:13 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djo72P48TmE[/youtube]

Posted on: April 14, 2012, 04:19:22
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/b2w2/story/
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/b2w2/characters/
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/b2w2/pokemon/

Also has videos inside.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: dragontamer272 on April 14, 2012, 05:42:25 AM
Me and my personal friend Jessie over in Belgium, we chatted last time about Black 2 & White 2. I asked if she herself planned on getting it and she said yeah, then we both were also coming to our decisions of which version we were going to get. I told her how about this; "Since we have the first game, then why don't we get the opposites of the sequal?" In my case I have White 1 while she has Black 1, we go the other way around this time.

So to put it simply, she's going to get "White 2" while I'm getting "Black 2".
Title: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 news
Post by: VixyNyan on May 12, 2012, 06:28:57 AM
http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

(http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/pokemonbw2/corocoro5125.jpg) (http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/pokemonbw2/corocoro5125.jpg)
Hm OK, looks cool. Let's look at the next... hm?

(http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/pokemonbw2/corocoro5123.jpg) (http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/pokemonbw2/corocoro5123.jpg)
Wow, that Tyranitar looks Godzillatastically beast! Awesome! Hm what else?

(http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/pokemonbw2/corocoro5121.jpg) (http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/pokemonbw2/corocoro5121.jpg)
N, Bel, Cheren! Yay~ Hm? One more? Let's see here......

!!!!!!!!!!!!
(http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/pokemonbw2/corocoro5122.jpg) (http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/pokemonbw2/corocoro5122.jpg)

(http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/536098_227103094061186_227102924061203_354070_1849915782_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 12, 2012, 06:39:05 AM
This is a VERY interesting update.
Finally get to see Cheren and Bianca again... And N's back from his journey.

Though, I'm very curious about the new formes the Oni Trio are sporting...
But getting to fight past legendary trainers besides Cythnia?
TAKE MY P-CHIPS!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 12, 2012, 06:43:49 AM
so we have the rival that's a snide jerk like GARY OAK

and now we have the actual GARY OAK

(http://i.imgur.com/lxWk8.png)
Title: Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 news
Post by: Hypershell on May 13, 2012, 06:13:25 AM
Hm? One more? Let's see here......

!!!!!!!!!!!!
(http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/pokemonbw2/corocoro5122.jpg) (http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/pokemonbw2/corocoro5122.jpg)
Every time...EVERY DAMN TIME I think I'm growing bored with the series, they find some way to suck me back in. ~w~
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 13, 2012, 07:06:31 AM
Man the best old Gym Leaders and all the champions this is going to be awesome.  I can't wait for this game to come out but since I didn't like Emboar very much I'm going with Smugleaf this time around though it's not much of an improvement, why must Carracosta be so awesome?  I'm not sure what to think of the new forms of the kami trio, they look like they got a DNA transfusion with Articuno, Rayquaza, and Raikou.  

I'm really curious about the character next to Godzilla Tyranitar but, holy [parasitic bomb] you have to fight that THING!?   You have to fight a giant mecha Tyranitar Godzilla Zord thingy!?  I'm legitimately scared of fighting that thing, I mean Tyranitar's are scary to fight on their own and I can't imagine what that thing can do.  When I fought my friend Will's Tyranitar it tore [parasitic bomb] up, more than his 'To Win' the Garchomp, though then again EV training makes everthing scarier than it should be so I could be over reacting.  Plus there is a Typhosion in the shot too so it could be that the Power Ranger guy is the one fighting or it's part of the extra game I don't know but, mecha Tyranitar is weird on its own.  Speaking of which what's with the super hero stuff anway, and why is Brycen dressed up as a villain, if anything the only gym leaders I would expect to do that is the Sitrion trio, Burgh, Skyla, and Iris, Bycen is the least I would expect to do Super Sentai stuff.

I like Bianca and Cheren's new design but why is Cheren missing his glasses and blushing?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on May 13, 2012, 07:27:56 AM
I like Bianca and Cheren's new design but why is Cheren missing his glasses and blushing?

Bianca and Cheren went steady with each other and did stuff, obviously those are Cheren's glasses she's wearing. ^^;
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 13, 2012, 07:41:11 AM
Yeah that's what I was thinking too, though wouldn't that make Bianca more klutzy? XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on May 13, 2012, 08:09:43 AM
where the [tornado fang] is wallace
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on May 13, 2012, 08:27:50 AM
where the [tornado fang] is wallace

he's being too fabulous to join in.

Though I'd like to think it's because they're following off of Ruby/Sapphire and not Emerald.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on May 13, 2012, 09:48:46 AM
he's being too fabulous to join in.

Though I'd like to think it's because they're following off of Ruby/Sapphire and not Emerald.

even if they did, it's being said that all previous leaders and champions return, so that would include wallace (he was a gym leader first) and juan if they're going by emerald as well.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on May 13, 2012, 09:55:09 AM
even if they did, it's being said that all previous leaders and champions return, so that would include wallace (he was a gym leader first) and juan if they're going by emerald as well.

Must be that they were showing off the more well known ones.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on May 13, 2012, 10:15:23 AM
Okay I read about Brycen on Bulbapedia and it said he used to be a movie star, so now it makes a little more sense that Brycen is doing Super Sentai stuff.  Still weird though.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Reaperoid on May 13, 2012, 11:02:59 AM
where the [tornado fang] is wallace
Though I'd like to think it's because they're following off of Ruby/Sapphire and not Emerald.
Good... Wallace was an excuse of a Champion, anyway.
Note that they actually quote Steven as a Champion, just as they quote Green as a Champion and not as a Gym Leader (but use his Gym Leader artwork :\ ), so... yeah.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on May 16, 2012, 03:08:33 AM
http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=torrentinfo&tid=314558
I'll just leave this here...
: >

For IDIOTS: No. It's not a torrent for the game.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on May 16, 2012, 03:37:33 AM
>Animated Cheren

Today I am happy.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on May 20, 2012, 11:41:09 AM
I want more of that.
It is darker, but oh-so-much-goodness.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on June 22, 2012, 04:54:01 PM
Lickity leakity babidi boo!
[spoiler]Are you prepared for a leak or two?[/spoiler]

Posted on: June 21, 2012, 05:53:29 AM
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bw2実況

also here...
have a link to a stream of the game.

[spoiler]I MISSED AKUROMA'S GLORIOUS THEME SONG! [tornado fang]![/spoiler]

Posted on: June 21, 2012, 04:50:41 PM
Triple post... lol you people suck

The game is "out". Now I just need to "obtain" this [parasitic bomb].

I doubt I'll be the first, but I'll post the music rip anyway. : P

Posted on: June 22, 2012, 12:57:44 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/?g7bsfku1mxefqzg
DONE! Posted also on /vp/

Enjoy the music.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on June 22, 2012, 08:03:24 PM
Dude! Thanks a hell of a lot. :3
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 23, 2012, 09:50:30 AM
Oh my god there are so many good pokemon in the pokedex, now I can't decide what I want for the team for the main game save for Arcanine or Ninetails and maybe Skarmory or Lucario. Heck I may dump my starter for Roserade and Carracosta, they really made the pokedex awesome and they kept the mass load of dark types. I might get to use Weavile again!  I want to find out what us exclusive for what version because this will be interesting.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Reaperoid on June 24, 2012, 10:25:20 AM
Yeah, great selections this time... though I'm waiting for my Black2 to arrive...
Riolu is a really solid choice for how early it appears; Magby(B)/Elekid(W) are also nice. Now that the tutors are around, a lot of great pokemon are just going to get better, eg. Deino family learns Earth Power now, so Earth Power and Dark Pulse are now a valid set after being kept apart by egg groups previously.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on June 26, 2012, 03:57:04 AM
(http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/1340643812921.png)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj1a-7ZsuFs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtiG565Og7Y

(http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/derp.png)

Also my 2SF music rip was officially accepted by the hcs64 community (http://www.hcs64.com/mboard/forum.php?showthread=14125&showpage=0).
http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/2SF/Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 (2012)(Game Freak)(Nintendo).zip (http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/2SF/Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 (2012)(Game Freak)(Nintendo).zip)

Here's the mp3 conversion. ^^
http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/pkmnbw2music/index.html
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on June 26, 2012, 04:28:00 AM
Also my 2SF music rip was officially accepted by the hcs64 community (http://www.hcs64.com/mboard/forum.php?showthread=14125&showpage=0).
http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/2SF/Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 (2012)(Game Freak)(Nintendo).zip (http://www.rockmanpm.com/lol/2SF/Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 (2012)(Game Freak)(Nintendo).zip)
Sometimes I wish I could annihilate people with my HATE.

Seriously though... I'm kinda jealous.

Also [tornado fang] everything. Champion Iris Battle is the BEST CHAMPION MUSIC EVER! SCREW THE HATERS!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on June 26, 2012, 04:33:19 AM
Champion Iris Battle is the BEST CHAMPION MUSIC EVER!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o96M2eDJDmw <3

And the attractive one~ :cookie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dErMwqf6Ww8

And also that one champion from yesteryears.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg0qd8Xj6U8
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on June 26, 2012, 09:09:47 AM
I listened to all the remixes of the Champion themes and I have say they sound freaking awesome.  I think this is the best iteration of Blue's theme I've ever heard though I think I like Lance's HGSS version a little bit better.  Either way all the champion themes are amazing.  Iris's theme is probably the most energetic theme of the bunch, not my favorite, but it fits her very very well especially since I had White.

Once again Red is silent, quite unfitting considering it's a tournament and now I'm starting to wonder if it's canon that he's a mute. Then again it's tradition so I don't care.

I'm making a new Pokemon team though I kinda want some advice since it's a very different team then I'm used to and I'm probably going to be using this team in a 4 out of 7 match and the guy said I should probably be prepared to fight 4 different teams.  I have no idea what's going to be in there so I think I should prepare for the worst Tyranitars, Metagross', any dragon imaginable and those goddanm Jolteons, though I think Jolteons are the least of my worries since I have a Aerodactyl with a perfect Speed IV.  I think the biggest problem for my team would be a Steel Type since I only have a weak Fire Punch and a STAB Earth Quake so if a Metagross comes along that may mess things up especially since the first part of my strategy is Toxic and Venoshock and the next is a permanent Sandstorm.  I also need advice on whether the Roserade should concentrate more on Special Defense or Speed since she will provide the Venoshock and if the Dusclops should be more Defensive or Special Defensive since he's going to be the scout though I'm leaning towards defensive since he's probably going to back up Milotic and Roserade.  I also think I need some interchangeable Pokemon too, since again the guy said I should prepare for about 4 teams and while I think my team has a good strategy it has many holes in it.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Legendary on July 07, 2012, 07:30:45 PM
http://www.smogon.com/bw/articles/bw2_changes

Move tutors and stuff. I'm pissed that Nidoking's Drill Run doesn't get a Sheer Force boost...and that Sucker Punch isn't available (yet, hopefully).

But yeah, move tutors and stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Hypershell on July 08, 2012, 07:34:03 AM
Yes!  Multiscale/Superpower Dragonite is legal!

(now if only I had the drive to play the game again -u-' )
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on July 14, 2012, 10:41:48 AM
Have some Mei action:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef2w3ZywnoI[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on July 14, 2012, 11:35:09 AM
Dang I don't know how I feel about Mei, on the one hand she seems like a badass on the other hand I'm amazed that Stoutland dodged a Frenzy Plant.  Either way I like he voice actor.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Gaia on July 14, 2012, 03:44:12 PM
Wait, Serperior AND Stoutland has defensive moves? FFFFF--

Also, I'm suprised that by that point Mei ALREADY has a Serperior by the time the male protag starts his journey.. And why can't the main anime be more like the trailers? ;____;
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on August 09, 2012, 07:35:11 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkTsd0iU97s[/youtube]

Now in English (it's not actual game play, okay.)

Goku confirmed for best rival.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on August 09, 2012, 07:50:40 AM
Mmmm... The full trailer including Mei... Delicious...
Most of the voices fit well for me.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on August 09, 2012, 09:34:12 AM
Wow the dub sounds good, and the rival still goes on about his rage.  Also those were hyper beams?  I never though I'd see the day when a hyper beam wasn't orange or red much less black.  Regardless Mei is still a badass.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on October 11, 2012, 07:42:26 AM
so

who's playing
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on October 11, 2012, 07:45:38 AM
I'm waiting until Christmas to get mine.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on October 11, 2012, 07:46:58 AM
I'm waiting until Christmas to get mine.

okay

sucks to be you
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on October 11, 2012, 07:49:21 AM
I need to concentrate on school that's why.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on October 11, 2012, 07:56:26 AM
i have been

skyla's gym is once again, very dangerous.

skyla's a crazy woman! XD
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on October 11, 2012, 10:03:29 PM
I believe this is relevant to your interests, people.
[spoiler]It sure is to mine[/spoiler]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF4ujjfkf_s&feature=related[/youtube]

STOP KILLING ME, JAPAN! STOP IT! IT HURTS!
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on October 12, 2012, 01:45:59 AM
so

hugh is the best rival hands down
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: VixyNyan on October 12, 2012, 01:54:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF4ujjfkf_s

STOP KILLING ME, JAPAN! STOP IT! IT HURTS!

I see nothing wrong with it. I love it~ ^^

skyla's a crazy woman! XD

She's the most popular too, mostly thanks to ecchi artists. ^^;
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: megaman24681012 on October 12, 2012, 02:26:33 AM
so

hugh is the best rival hands down

I haven't played the game yet, so I wouldn't know.

Why so?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on October 12, 2012, 02:48:13 AM
I haven't played the game yet, so I wouldn't know.

Why so?

because he has rage
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on October 12, 2012, 03:09:23 AM
I see nothing wrong with it. I love it~ ^^
I love it too...

And it hurts.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Solar on October 12, 2012, 04:49:03 AM
I need to know, does anyone have a spare Keldeo? The distribution of it in this country [tornado fang]ing SUCKED.

I can pay you in Club Nintendo points or something D:
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on October 12, 2012, 05:11:13 AM
I didn't even get the event here either.

Kinda sucks.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on October 12, 2012, 04:11:20 PM
No Keldeo distro here either... Need Keldeo...
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Police Girl on October 13, 2012, 02:42:38 AM
Wasn't there some site that allowed people to get Event Pokemon by connecting their DS to a different IP address to enable obtaining the pokemon through the GTS?

Does that not work for B/W?

Anyway, i'll probably pick up Black 2 when I beat Black 1.

Which won't be for a while since I really don't want to play black when it looks like ass on my 3DS.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on October 14, 2012, 11:10:28 AM
relevant to my previous comment regarding skyla
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/541296_355152901244422_1705734069_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on October 16, 2012, 08:25:30 AM
>beat the pokemon league
>hugh makes me ride the ferris wheel with him
>afterwards goes off claiming he's going to brag to his sister about it

yeah okay
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on October 20, 2012, 01:44:13 AM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/230810_358242624268783_752978369_n.jpg)

this needs to happen
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on October 20, 2012, 01:58:31 AM
That would be cool, while Red is awesome I would like another past player fight.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Archer on October 20, 2012, 02:03:41 AM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/230810_358242624268783_752978369_n.jpg)

this needs to happen

no it doesn't because hilbert and nate are canon not the females you dork
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Ladd Spencer on October 20, 2012, 07:14:22 AM
Wait, do Black & White have different protagonists from Black & White 2? I'm confused.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on October 20, 2012, 08:38:12 AM
Wait, do Black & White have different protagonists from Black & White 2? I'm confused.
yes

they do
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on October 20, 2012, 09:26:21 AM
>Sees Plasma Frigate hover over Opelucid City
>Sees it fire it's ice cannon
>Seriously likes this new Team Plasma
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Ladd Spencer on October 21, 2012, 03:13:58 AM
yes

they do
Are they different games? Different gyms? Does it have 2 regions again yet?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on October 21, 2012, 03:18:51 AM
It's the same region with 3 new gyms, new heros and rival, 2 factions of Plasma 1 that acts like a animal shelter the other acting like a much more serious Team Rocket, a badass pokedex library that has a mixture of all 5 gens, and loads of other things.  In other words a real sequel.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Ladd Spencer on October 21, 2012, 03:43:02 AM
Gold and Silver were real sequels. 3 new gyms is more like an expanded version. The real question is, should I merely skip B&W and go straight to B&W2? I think I should, unless there's a reason not to. Same starters? If it's the same starters it's the same game IMO.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Sakura Leic on October 21, 2012, 03:51:11 AM
I suggest you get Black or White and play it all the way through not only because Gen 5 is much more story driven but you will miss out on some cool post game stuff if you don't such as catching all of N's Pokemon in the first game and battling Bianca and Cheren.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Ladd Spencer on October 21, 2012, 04:25:44 AM
Story, yea, I doubt the "plot" of new Pocket Mans will interest me. These are DS games though, right? Free is free. I might just play both. But don't they have IR to foil my plans or something?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on October 21, 2012, 04:36:19 AM
IR is optional, don't worry.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Ladd Spencer on October 21, 2012, 06:32:02 AM
But isn't IR required for multiplayer? My friend who told me that is kind of retarded. He pronounces it Pokey Mon, so he's readily identifiable as a retard.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on October 21, 2012, 09:10:14 AM
But isn't IR required for multiplayer? My friend who told me that is kind of retarded. He pronounces it Pokey Mon, so he's readily identifiable as a retard.
But your friend is right.
Pokey really is a MONster.

[spoiler]hurr durrr[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on October 21, 2012, 12:22:06 PM
But isn't IR required for multiplayer? My friend who told me that is kind of retarded. He pronounces it Pokey Mon, so he's readily identifiable as a retard.
If you want to do it outside the wireless union room (which I can use just fine on my acekard) then yes. But you can also use the wireless union room.

All IR is used for is the IR menu of the C-Gear, which provides handy access to trading Friend Codes (which you can do yourself), battling (union room), trading (union room), and feeling check (no practical use that i'm aware of, or at least not one that will take something away from the game).

See, I gave alternate methods to do everything the IR does.

However in BW2 you need IR to exchange keys, but there's probably codes to unlock those already.

So yeah, IR isn't necessary.
But your friend is right.
Pokey really is a MONster.

[spoiler]hurr durrr[/spoiler]
Pokey is a monster, haven't you played Earthbound? And Mother 3?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Reaperoid on October 21, 2012, 12:39:55 PM
High scores in Feeling Check give Heart Scales.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on October 21, 2012, 12:58:50 PM
High scores in Feeling Check give Heart Scales.
True, but you can find those elsewhere.

Or trade for them.

There's other ways to get heart scales.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Reaperoid on October 21, 2012, 01:02:20 PM
Not entirely useless, but yeah, useless :W
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Rin on October 21, 2012, 01:49:40 PM
Pokey is a monster, haven't you played Earthbound? And Mother 3?
Yes, Mirby.
I played them (never beat Mother 3 though).

That's what I meant. That Pokey (Porkey) is a monster.
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Mirby on October 21, 2012, 01:51:34 PM
Yes, Mirby.
I played them (never beat Mother 3 though).

That's what I meant. That Pokey (Porkey) is a monster.
Oh.

Well then.

*leaves awkwardly*
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Ladd Spencer on October 21, 2012, 07:03:22 PM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img191/9349/pokeya.jpg)
Pokey says [tornado fang] Ness, [tornado fang] Lucas, and most of all, Mother [tornado fang] Earthbound.

Edit:
Also, what are these keys in B&W2 all about?
Title: Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. Wily II on October 21, 2012, 07:08:51 PM
Key Links (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Unova_Link#Key_Link)