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Other Things => Gaming => Topic started by: VixyNyan on May 29, 2011, 03:42:14 AM
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Say hello to PS la Vita Loca (http://gamespundit.com/1359/rumour-time-ngps-official-name-revealed)
(http://i.imgur.com/JdXtE.jpg)
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It's.. The same thing with two sticks.
Then again, so is the 3DS. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
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I guess we'll be seeing a lot of on the go FPS. I thought we'd see this with the DS/3DS but it seems devs didn't like Prime Hunters' controls much? This is their tried and true system though, so I'd expect a ton of them for the PSP2.
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awaiting more portable disgaea remakes for this thing
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"Vita" makes me think of "Vista".
Yeah, so it's gonna suck big time.
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Thinking of the pronunciation, and the replacement of the P at the end...
PSVITA
PSPITA
Delicious psp pita wrap.
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That seriously looks exactly the same as the PSP \o/
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More console war ammo:
http://www.industrygamers.com/news/sony-cutting-ngp-ram-in-half-rumor/
This claims to be specific to the non-3G model. Still, it seems like Sony promising crap that they either can't deliver or intend to yank away is just par for the course anymore.
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Again, the idea of it seems decent.
But I still don't think the launch price is going to be less than $350.
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Again, the idea of it seems decent.
But I still don't think the launch price is going to be less than $350.
Yeah, it certainly won't be below that price range. Sony has claimed that it doesn't want to set the price bar too high from now on, but with the way they've been designing hardware nowadays it's simply just not going to work that way.
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Yeah, it certainly won't be below that price range. Sony has claimed that it doesn't want to set the price bar too high from now on, but with the way they've been designing hardware nowadays it's simply just not going to work that way.
When the man says, "I hope when the price is announced, people will understand" or something to that effect, that is not a good sign. XD
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So, where are the games?
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I agree with the above. Having a second analog stick is nice and all, but I've got to see something (That is NOT portsgalore) to justify hard earned money spent.
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(http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/1738/pspv.png)
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How is trying to find a reason to purchase merchandise past the thought of "Oh look, they've attatched another nipple to it" hating? I have a psp and I love it as a gaming machine and music player. So....how am I hating rather than wanting a good reason to buy it outside of the usual console/handheld competition for money or point frankly just being a sheep?
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You know, this same conversation happens every time new hardware is unveiled...
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Fair enough. >_> Let's just save some time and all say we love what we love and want it. Some of us rather wait, and other are in the middle. :P There! 30 post condensed.
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More like 30 pages condensed.
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Price always comes up for new releases of hardware. I seem to recall having this very same discussion about the PS3 back in the day, and that didn't exactly have the best of starts because of it's price. Definitely getting the same impression here.
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Price always comes up for new releases of hardware. I seem to recall having this very same discussion about the PS3 back in the day, and that didn't exactly have the best of starts because of it's price. Definitely getting the same impression here.
I think price is coming up with this specifically due to Sony's past history with the PS3, and the fact that not only are they trying to compete somewhat with the 3DS, but are literally gonna have to try and make a profit on this thing due to the PSN [tornado fang] up.
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Looks cool and all, but it's too bad I have my sights on getting a 3DS.
Because of MML3 and Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked.
Let's just hope the software for it can make it a worthy piece of hardware (that and as PB said, to make up from lost profits from those damn hackers for sending PSN to bum-[tornado fang]'d Egypt).
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So how quick will it be cracked?
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Within a month, easily.
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(http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/3806/vitaprice.png)
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^^^
I'm sorry Nintendo, you lose in terms of portables this round \o/
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Hahaha, no chance.
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I'm already finished with the design phase for when I customize mine.
(http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/3374/psvita.png)
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While it's certainly more affordable than expected, let's see what games are going to be available for it.
I'm still kind of worried about the placement of the sticks, to be honest. It looks like it's going to be just as uncomfortable as on the PSP to use them x2 since now there's two of them. That layout works for a controller that isn't flat, but not so much for a handheld which needs to be flat so that it's remotely portable.
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Vita already has around 150 developers working on it.
3DS already bombed hard with it's release line up. Even the elevens don't care for it.
Sony won the conference alone with the Vita. PiiU was [parasitic bomb] that they didn't even show the console or talk about it. It's just trying to play off of retarded gimicks again. And the game footage they showed for it, Literally over 90% of it was was the PS3, 360, and PC versions of those games. U had nothing at all.
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6584/19472610p1.jpg)
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That took longer to happen than I thought it would.
C ya next year.
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Sony won the conference alone with the Vita.
HAHAHAHA... ahh...
Vita already has around 150 developers working on it.
Doesn't mean it's guaranteed to have anything good at release. It's not uncommon for devs to have been working on a system for a long time before it's even announced, yet still not have anything of note for launch since they're still getting familiar with the hardware.
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^^^
I'm sorry Nintendo, you lose in terms of portables this round \o/
You know, everyone said the same thing when the first DS launched.
$250 Vita is certainly unexpected, I'll give them that. Even if it is the low-grade model.
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D'ohoho~
Of course Ninty will still win in the end. I don't expect anything less from my favourite company. But to clarify things, the 3DS loses to the Vita for me.
As long as the Vita is backwards compatible, and I can import it, the 3DS can wait o/
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It's just trying to play off of retarded gimicks again.
Yeah, that certainly hasn't made any money for them thus far! -_-
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And speaking of money, Sony REALLY needs this thing to do well if it's true that this thing is going to have them in the red for approximately 3 years because of its price.
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And speaking of money, Sony REALLY needs this thing to do well if it's true that this thing is going to have them in the red for approximately 3 years because of its price.
The price is the main reason it will hopefully do well. Because it's the same price as the 3DS, it actually has a chance of competition. Heh, I wonder how many city dwellers are going to spend that extra $50 for AT&T 3G service though.
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The price is the main reason it will hopefully do well. Because it's the same price as the 3DS, it actually has a chance of competition.
Of course, but there's no denying that it's a risky strategy though.
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Of course, but there's no denying that it's a risky strategy though.
Oh of course it is. But they have no choice.
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All gaming companies are at losses when the new hardware is 1st out. It takes a while for any of them to to actually make a profit, but they do in the long run.
Even with the RROD fiasco, in the last 3 or so years MS's been making nothing but profits, and it's rising each year.
And they're not selling it for cheap. It's been known for a while that the very 1st decision when it came to Vita was the pricing. Once they decided on that they designed the machine and specs withing that price range, hence the 2 models.
(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/7143/19498388.jpg)
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PlayStation Vita Just Might Be Region Free (http://www.siliconera.com/2011/06/09/playstation-vita-will-be-region-free/)
This could be good news for anyone looking forward to the PlayStation Vita; IGN report that according to Michael Denny, Vice President of Sony Worldwide Studios Europe, the device will be region free, “to the best of his knowledge”.
The PlayStation Vita will come in two models – one with Wi-Fi capability for $250 and one with Wi-Fi/3G capabilities for $300.
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I'm happy to hear that, because the majority of PSP games I have were from overseas. This will probably be the case with the Pita as well.
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Mmmm, Pita Bread~ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pita) <3
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Mmmm, Pita Bread~ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pita) <3
Well now I'm in the mood for Halal Food! XD
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Hey! I'm the one who said it made me want some pita!
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As long as the Vita is backwards compatible, and I can import it, the 3DS can wait o/
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Vita lacks a UMD drive.
I don't imagine it'd be any small stretch for backwards compatability in the realm of digital downloads, though.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Vita lacks a UMD drive.
I don't imagine it'd be any small stretch for backwards compatability in the realm of digital downloads, though.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it does not play UMD discs.
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Yeah, the game media for the PSV is gonna be some kind of DS-like cartridge/card. No UMD drive.
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So it's backwards compatible with PSN downloads only.
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Pretty much, which means I can't trade in my PSP for one. Those Gundam games & DJ Max are just too good.
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Yeeeeah despite that I think I might still get it as long as I can somehow obtain Japan PSN games. Which my friend is convincing me is possible with a few contacts.
There have been a few PSP games I've felt like having but didn't feel like getting a PSP just for them. S'a liiiiie Physical copies are nice but I can live without...I guess.
proviededsecurityisfinenow
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Good luck with that one.
Sony already has (lost) my credit card for Complete Works 1-3, so it's a moot point with me. But I didn't get a PSP until ludicrously late in its life cycle; I just don't get that excited for Sony hardware. I'm one of those "franchise/nostalgic" gamers (hey, this IS a Mega Man board), so it takes a while for most Playstation systems to build a roster of titles that interest me.
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Vita being region free was confirmed by Kojima days ago. But because he's didn't go to E3 (He was doing swat training)
No one noted it.
Vita faq
http://us.playstation.com/support/answer/index.htm?a_id=2254
Q: Can PS Vita users continue using their save data for PSP games that they have also downloaded from PlayStation Store to PS Vita?
A: We are looking into the opportunity to do so.
Q: PS Vita doesn't support UMD but do you have any plan to introduce peripherals like "UMD readers" for PS Vita?
A: We do not have plans to introduce such peripherals at this point in time.
Q: I have UMD games but do I need to buy them again from PlayStation Store to play the same game on PS Vita?
A: We will consider every possibility for support on bought UMD games but we have nothing to comment at this point in time.
Q: Will you bring all UMD games to the new game medium or on the PlayStation Store for PS Vita?
A: SCE with the support of third party developers and publishers have been offering select UMD titles on PlayStation Store and will continue our effort to deliver these content in the form of game medium for PS Vita going forward. However, we will need to clear all copyright / legal related issues and due to this not all software titles will become available on PS Vita. We will announce details for each title when ready.
Q: There are two slots on the PS Vita, what are they for?
A: One is for the new game medium, the other is for storage media to be utilized for personal content and download content.
Also
http://www.the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm (http://www.the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm)
GameStop revealed the price of PS Vita game titles, all games are listed for $39.99, which is the same price range as 3DS games.
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The Vita sounds interesting, but so did the 3DS. And of course, the 3DS has been overwhelmingly disappointing in the game department for me. Like usual, I'll probably hold out for awhile until it gets a few interesting titles. By that time, I'll probably have to choose between 3DS or Vita.
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Remember when Sony was saying they'd have a way to transfer UMDs over way back before the PSPGo was released? Yeah, at least now they're being more straightforward about it instead of changing their mind later on.
Also, I wouldn't get too excited about the GameStop pricerange, they tend to put in placeholders which don't really mean anything. I'd wait for a more official statement from Sony themselves, safer that way.
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"Q: PS Vita doesn't support UMD but do you have any plan to introduce peripherals like "UMD readers" for PS Vita?
A: We do not have plans to introduce such peripherals at this point in time.
Q: I have UMD games but do I need to buy them again from PlayStation Store to play the same game on PS Vita?
A: We will consider every possibility for support on bought UMD games but we have nothing to comment at this point in time."
In other words:
<Sony> You're pretty much [tornado fang]'d! Now get back to buying all your PSP games again.
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I wonder, how does the whole transfarring deal work?
Do I need to buy two copies, one for handheld and one for PS3?
Or is it enough to buy one?
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Only one copy. I assume it'd just copy the data over from the Vita to the PS3 via USB.
HOLY [tornado fang]! Apparently I'm now Japanese!!!
http://kotaku.com/5810253/a-most-beautiful-and-totally-fake-vita/gallery/1
Another fail for shitaku
And if you notice on the original japanese blog, it's my exact same imageshack link that I used on the last page...
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Hahahaha, nice!
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Lmao, and now you're an eleven. Yay.
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Soran Ibraham has become a true Gunda--er, Innovato-... I mean, a Setsuna F. Seiei!
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This victory strengthened the soul of Setsuna.
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I fail to see the problem with the Psp vita not being able to use UMD. If you have a PSP already, use that then. If you do not have a psp but you wish to play UMD games by the time Vita comes out...then...odd time to want a PSP. >_>; Anyways, my point is that you don't have to trade in your old game hardware whenever you want new game hardware. No one is in a unreasonable position, no one is being forced to do anything they don't want to.
Needless to say. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL1lfSzgcAw/)
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It's not just that it doesn't play UMD's. It's that it plays digital UMD dumps, AND that you have to purchase the game AGAIN to have it on there. Either A) have a UMD rebate offer for all UMD games you own to download their digital copy for free, or B) make it play UMD's. Anything short of those two options is just a super dick move.
Or do you expect us to carry a PSP on one pocket, Vita in another, DS in another, and 3DS in another yet?
It only makes sense to be backwards compatible. Consoles you may have a point, but on handhelds it's unacceptable.
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I'd expect people to pace themselves and not -have- to think they'd -need- all of that technology on them at once. If you are outside and you feel you have the absolute need to jump from one game to another, to another, to another it's indecisive and compulsive behavior. And honestly, if you cannot control those urges, that's a personal problem and not one that a company should feel they need to help with. I was able to switch between GBA games and an DSi when I felt that for that day, I felt like playing one or the other. I feel that consoles have less of a point seeing as how a console without backwards compatibility is simply helping to take up space in a personal entertainment center. While handhelds are small.
Really, having not backwards compatibility on a handheld is less of a "This makes no sense" subject and more of a "I want it this way" arguement, as well as a lack of control over their complusive actions of "having" to switch between an old game at that very moment or a newer one.
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Never said I would switch between them like that. Perhaps today I wish to play BlazBlue portable. And tomorrow I'm in the mood to dig up that Maverick Hunter X. It's all about convenience, and precedence. Nintendo and Sega have been doing it since the beginning, and it's still upheld today. Not including it at this point seems rather backwards.
Also, in this day and age where older consoles are software emulatable by their successors AND digital distributions are common place, there really isn't much of a reason not to. See also Virtual Console on the 3DS.
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Or do you expect us to carry a PSP on one pocket, Vita in another [...]
It only makes sense to be backwards compatible. Consoles you may have a point, but on handhelds it's unacceptable.
It's Sony's strategy, plain and simple.
Regardless of arguing about console or handheld, just look at the PS3: Sony don't give a damn about backwards compatibility, or at least only enough to make milk you for more cash through useless trinkets such as the USB adaptor for PS2 peripherals, before gradually removing PS2 capability from their units.
Same is happening to the VITA, where you have the possibility to play PSP titles, but at extra expense. And even then, there will only be a brief amount of third-party titles among the SCE-developed or -produced titles. There are two choices:
1) Sell your PSP and put a dent into buying your VITA and wait until the 'aftermarket' alternative comes about, because it could happen. Or perhaps just wait for the 'rebate' scheme that probably won't happen
2) Keep your PSP for posterity's sake, either because trade value hardly justifies turfing anything in or there's the fact you have a handheld that can play just about anything (do you want to try trusting Sony this time round? (http://www.siliconera.com/2011/06/09/playstation-vita-will-be-region-free/))
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Gah! Sony, why do you do this to me?!
By God if you don't make it region free, I WILL FIND A WAY REGARDLESS.
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As far as that "scheme" goes as you state, I'm willing to comply. Business wise, they need the money and don't blame them for doing it this way. Namely from how little money the receive to begin with. So the more money the get, the more resources they have to work with in future projects. Works for me. That and I don't exactly like the concept of trading in one system to get a discount on another. Namely since that's what hurts the gaming industry the most. (That and buying used games.)
Although as far as their downloading "scheme" goes. It's a far and understandable one. This way, they get all of the profits. Rather than having to go to the middle man, just to get a -very- small slice of that pie. If I were in their shoes, I'd do no different. And even if you think about it, they tend to release games on the market for download that is cheaper than the original price for a game. So, if you never got an old game and you want it, you can pay about 20 bucks for it and download it. As opposed to...say....having to pay 70-90 dollars for castlevania SOTN.
Never said I would switch between them like that. Perhaps today I wish to play BlazBlue portable. And tomorrow I'm in the mood to dig up that Maverick Hunter X. It's all about convenience, and precedence. Nintendo and Sega have been doing it since the beginning, and it's still upheld today. Not including it at this point seems rather backwards.
Then pick up your vita and use it on Tuesday. And they pick up your PSP and use it on the very next day. I fail to see what the problem is truthfully. Maybe I just don't get it by the way you are wording it, but I'm still seeing sheer laziness to get up, look for either the psp or vita and using one or the other. It doesn't inconvience you at all, unless you live in a pigs sty and can't find a thing in your room without a metal detector and shovel. But once again, this sounds more like personal problems.
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I think the problem here is you must be some neck beard room hermit who never leaves home. It's a portable gaming machine. It can be anywhere. On a trip, on a flight, in the car, at your friends house, on the beach, in the park, etc etc etc. It's meant for a little bit here, a little bit there, and switch to this right now. As exemplified by the pause anywhere features all modern handhelds have had.
Plans change unexpectedly, things happen suddenly. When plans change, and I'm either waiting or bored I might just want to pull out that portable gaming machine. However today I'm in the mood for Megaman X, so I'd like to play that, but it's on a previous system. I'm pretty sure I wont be, or have the time to go, driving back home, exchanging systems, and driving back every time.
If Nintendo can get it right, Sony is surely capable of it too.
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Pretty clear that Sony's abandoning UMDs on the grounds of battery life, so it's really a question of whether or not they're willing to set up a decent digital conversion, or just have you rebuy whatever is currently on the PSN store.
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I think the problem here is you must be some neck beard room hermit who never leaves home. It's a portable gaming machine. It can be anywhere. On a trip, on a flight, in the car, at your friends house, on the beach, in the park, etc etc etc. It's meant for a little bit here, a little bit there, and switch to this right now. As exemplified by the pause anywhere features all modern handhelds have had.
Edit: You know what? Think what you want. You want to feel as if you won something for the day? Congradulations. I've got better things to do. And I was stupid enough to respond to trolling. Hypershell hit the nail on the head. It's one way or another for a -reason-. Not to anger all fans who wish it their way only. This is a business. Not a "we have to please our fans"-o-thon. Take it as you will or think as you will. I won't stop you.
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Hmm
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/psvita_upcoming_games_2012.jpg) (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/psvita_upcoming_games_2012.jpg)
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ZOE Collection on this too?
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ZOE Collection on this too?
yeah! Kojima announced the ZOE HD Collection during E3 this year.
Huh; so considering the aforementioned ZOE Collection, the MGS Collection, and Disgaea 3 returns are on the list, all in which have been announced, this makes the list all the more believable! YES!!!!
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Yeah, but I thought it was for the PS3 only.
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I see Tank! Tank! Tank!... OHMAGAWD
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A lot of these haven't had Vita version announcements yet. I mean, I guess it would be easy to port them over if the Vita truly is as powerful as a PS3. But could this just be a list of releases on Sony platforms?
And obviously, I'm most intrigued by the Castlevania the Complete Chronicles. What the hell could that be?
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Yeah, but I thought it was for the PS3 only.
Yea just hate on the 360 why don't you. 8D
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Yea just hate on the 360 why don't you. 8D
Oh I have all the systems, sweetie! 8)
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I dunno, that list looks a little too good to be true. Especially if that's for launch.
A lot of these haven't had Vita version announcements yet. I mean, I guess it would be easy to port them over if the Vita truly is as powerful as a PS3. But could this just be a list of releases on Sony platforms?
According to Sony, the Vita is supposed to be "half the power of a PS3" or something along those lines. So we won't be seeing something on the level of Battlefield 3 or Uncharted 2/3.
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Yeah, but I thought it was for the PS3 only.
Yea just hate on the 360 why don't you. 8D
Actually, I thought the ZOE collection was on both PS3 and 360. The Konami Collection I recall not originally being on 360 was the Silent Hill one, but that has a 360 version now too.
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What I meant to say is, I didn't think it was coming out for the Vita as well.
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So just in case we didn't hear, VITA apparently confirmed (http://twitter.com/#!/yosp/status/114813147948384258) to be region free.
Great move on Sony's part for this, though.
Also, can we get the thread title renamed to Playstation VITA?
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http://playstationlifestyle.net/2011/09/23/vitas-augmented-reality-declares-waar-on-3ds-proves-to-be-incredible/
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Non-servicable battery is still a dick move :\