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Reply #525 on: July 18, 2013, 01:14:48 AM
Not chibi.

Just regular hentai.

I think he's referring to the artstyle.

That's how Shampoo looked in the Ranma series. The fact that I know that bugs me.



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Reply #526 on: July 18, 2013, 01:18:31 AM
I know... but that artstyle isn't chibi.



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Reply #527 on: July 18, 2013, 01:22:34 AM
That's why i added the "?" Since Shampoo is an underage character, I wasn't sure if chibi applied. But yeah, if it's underage - provocative pics need not be drawn of it, let alone shared with the world.

Thanks for the clarification.



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Reply #528 on: July 18, 2013, 01:28:45 AM
That's why i added the "?" Since Shampoo is an underage character, I wasn't sure if chibi applied. But yeah, if it's underage - provocative pics need not be drawn of it, let alone shared with the world.

Thanks for the clarification.

I don't think she's underage...



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Reply #529 on: July 18, 2013, 01:31:01 AM
i'm not sure. a previous poster said that she was a teenager. haven't seen much of the show.



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Reply #530 on: July 18, 2013, 01:32:37 AM
i'm not sure. a previous poster said that she was a teenager. haven't seen much of the show.

Teenage could mean anywhere from 13 to 19 (All considered okay in Japan.)



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Reply #531 on: July 18, 2013, 01:35:08 AM
Just a reminder:
A. She's a cartoon character.
B. Age of consent in Japan is 13 (Shampoo is officially 16 in the series). Dammit, Clefant beat me to it.
C. It's not porn.  It's mature nudes.  There's a world of difference between the two.
And D. For those of you just joining us, this is a topic about Mega Man Unlimited.  Shampoo from Ranma ½ makes a cameo in the game and there is artwork of her on the main site where she is bare-naked.  This is why we're discussing Shampoo.
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E: After doing some research, artistic nudity (as well as natural nudity) doesn't appear to be illegal, regardless of the subject's age.  If there's no "lewdness" or sexual conduct, it's fine.  And there's nothing like that in any of the images shown.  But I guess the argument here isn't that, but rather if how uncomfortable of confusing those images would be to a casual browser.



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Reply #532 on: July 18, 2013, 01:40:18 AM
It's not porn.  It's mature nudes.  There's a world of difference between the two.

No, it's porn. A body exposing private parts, and she's sexualized.

Anyway, no more talk about that. This isn't the place to discuss that stuff.

This thread has derailed far enough.



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Reply #533 on: July 18, 2013, 01:42:15 AM
13? That's Tornado Fanged up!

Yes, there's a difference between mature nudes, such as pin-up and porn. I have seen mature versions of the Touhou characters (clothes on, thanks!) which are tasteful.




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Reply #534 on: July 18, 2013, 01:44:10 AM
I haven't played Unlimited yet, but I'm pretty bummed to see that it didn't turn out that great. :/



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Reply #535 on: July 18, 2013, 01:45:16 AM
13? That's Tornado Fanged up!

Please remember we are talking about Japan here. They do things... Differently.

Anyway, enough talk of this, mod orders.



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Reply #536 on: July 18, 2013, 01:57:45 AM
I understand, Clefant and agree with the mods. We should be getting back to the game. What I should ask, is are any of you that have finished the game going to go back and play the easy mode when it releases?



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Reply #537 on: July 18, 2013, 01:59:31 AM
I understand, Clefant and agree with the mods. We should be getting back to the game. What I should ask, is are any of you that have finished the game going to go back and play the easy mode when it releases?

Well now that discussion has gone back to the game I'll be making my leave since I have neither played nor am interested in playing it.



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Reply #538 on: July 18, 2013, 02:01:20 AM
Somehow, I'm not surprised.
What I should ask, is are any of you that have finished the game going to go back and play the easy mode when it releases?
I'd give it a try.  It would be interesting to know what gets changed and whatnot.  He did say there won't be anything like adding blocks and such, though.  Just stronger attacks, less damage for Rock, and maybe slower attacks/movements for the enemies.

I'd also give it a try if a Hard Mode was introduced, for the same reasons.



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Reply #539 on: July 18, 2013, 02:06:31 AM
Somehow, I'm not surprised.

Why would you be? I like megaman as much as the next guy but the stuff surrounding this like the memory bloat and absurd difficulty turned me off, the 8-bit didn't help either but I was actually kind of interested until the stuff I mentioned first came to light.



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Reply #540 on: July 18, 2013, 02:08:52 AM
@archetype:Agreed.

 I am far more interested in why the bosses are so pitiful compared to their levels? This game feels like Megaman X6 in many ways. Very strange ideas, kind of a rough cut, takes multiple tries to figure some things out (some WAY too many tries), and it's only fun when you already have everything. The level design in and of themselves aren't too difficult. The main difficulty from my experience were far too many deaths revolve around spike traps or getting knocked back into a hole. Generally in Megaman the deaths come from inexperience so that's fair enough. It's a little more frustrating when the checkpoints were a last second thought and haphazardly placed.

It's okay if a checkpoint sends you back before a mini boss. I recall that happening in the official games once or twice though I can't remember which game or where. ( I might not be correct so forgive me). But as long as you had killed the mini boss it wouldn't re-spawn! >.<; Another irritant is in the form of the default controls, I am using a wired Dualshock 3. After I had set up the controls through the options I went to play a stage and found out two VERY obnoxious issues. I had no diagonal support! Now i don't know if I am alone in that issue but I have already dealt with it. It may have been my D-pad but i honestly don't know. If I held right while jumping but then help up and right trying to catch a ladder it wouldn't work. Well not unless I had released right and only held up. Same issue with trying to slide but that is a moot point because thankfully you have a slide button which this game made me very thankful for!!

Other than those issues the control is fairly tight and for the most part Mega moves and acts like he should. Once or twice though he turns around for no reason  just standing there until he gets hit, then he acts fine. (assuming I didn't die!)

Right now I am dealing with Wily stage 4 and now that I have played more of it and learned how to deal with it I have a better opinion of the game as a whole. It's not great but definitely not terrible. And while it has some intense (and unwarranted) hikes in difficulty it still manages to be a little fun. If only you didn't have to suffer so much before it become enjoyable. At least that's my take on it.

The weapons are completely useless or crazy useful! Comet Dash reminds me of the weapon you get after you defeat Pluto (is it Break Dash?) but also usable mid-air. Very useful! But then you have the awful Jet Missile. Neither strong, fast, clever, or helpful. Locking on? Never really works.

It's a shame really, I can see a lot of hard work went into this game, and along with it some very clever and unique ideas! Which, unfortunately, is marred greatly by the fact most of the issues I have with this game are more of oversights then poor choice. I honestly feel like if they tweaked with it a little bit more it could be truly great! The graphics are decent. The bosses aren't any better or worse than we have already seen. (Except maybe Glue Man)

tl;dr?

It's hard and in the way that's kind of cheap and kind of legit, but is also kind of fun. I really don't think it's a bomb, just needs some more work. Feels like a beta that's mostly there.



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Reply #541 on: July 18, 2013, 02:20:09 AM
I'll be honest. I'm playing MMU on an 09 Toshiba laptop Vista SP2 and have experienced no lag or slowdown. Runs perfectly fine for me. But it possess my controller somehow, and Megaman does his own thing sometimes which almost always, leads to his untimely demise.



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Reply #542 on: July 18, 2013, 02:24:03 AM
I'll be honest. I'm playing MMU on an 09 Toshiba laptop Vista SP2 and have experienced no lag or slowdown. Runs perfectly fine for me. But it possess my controller somehow, and Megaman does his own thing sometimes which almost always, leads to his untimely demise.
Are you using the default controller or something like Xpadder or Joy2Key?



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Reply #543 on: July 18, 2013, 02:36:28 AM
I used Xpadder for about three seconds before I realized that the game had a controller config. So I've been since using default controls.

One of my biggest problems with controls pertains to the first ladder in Glue Man's stage. A friend joked and said that it's by far "the worst enemy in the game." I just couldn't latch onto it for nothing. I'd have to really hammer the analog stick upwards, just to make Megaman grab it.



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Reply #544 on: July 18, 2013, 02:41:29 AM
Why would you be? I like megaman as much as the next guy but the stuff surrounding this like the memory bloat and absurd difficulty turned me off, the 8-bit didn't help either but I was actually kind of interested until the stuff I mentioned first came to light.
Because despite all that, and everything I said in that post pages back, it's still an interesting game.  And had you read at least part of the post, you'd notice that the game runs perfectly fine despite using almost all your system's resources.

My specific setup is a 2012 HP 2000 laptop with a 64-bit 1.2 Ghz dual core processor, and 3.6 GB of RAM/400 MB VRAM.  I'm also running Windows 8 64-bit Home Edition.  Even with my laptop being just a tad but underpowered compared to some others, the game runs wonderfully with the exception of cutscenes, which run at about half speed.  I've never had a crash I didn't cause myself (been experimenting with Cheat Engine after beating the game) and very, very rarely do I experience any sort of hiccup during gameplay.  And on top of that... I can run the game while chatting on Skype, which is also a resource hog.



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Reply #545 on: July 18, 2013, 02:51:42 AM
Because despite all that, and everything I said in that post pages back, it's still an interesting game.

Problem is fun and interesting don't both apply to everything.

Is Ratchet and Clank fun? Yes. Interesting? Also yes.

Sonic 06, fun not especially. Interesting definitely.

Left 4 Dead isn't terribly interesting, but it can be hella fun if played with friends.

Megaman Unlimited isn't looking or sounding like it is very fun. And while it could be interesting I don't know how interesting could it be.



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Reply #546 on: July 18, 2013, 02:59:29 AM
Problem is fun and interesting don't both apply to everything.

Is Ratchet and Clank fun? Yes. Interesting? Also yes.

Sonic 06, fun not especially. Interesting definitely.

Left 4 Dead isn't terribly interesting, but it can be hella fun if played with friends.

Megaman Unlimited isn't looking or sounding like it is very fun. And while it could be interesting I don't know how interesting could it be.
It's a lot like the later X games. Once you get everything THEN the game opens up and becomes fun. If you enjoyed X6 you'll like this one. If you are actually sane, you might be better off passing over this one. IMHO that is.



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Reply #547 on: July 18, 2013, 03:00:31 AM
I enjoyed X6, but I played it on easy.

Even when I played it on normal it wasn't too bad.



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Reply #548 on: July 18, 2013, 03:05:12 AM
I enjoyed X6, but I played it on easy.

Even when I played it on normal it wasn't too bad.
thats Exactly how this feels. Things hit you hard at first but you get used to it. Also if its too hard the game gives you plenty of bolts and e tanks and w tanks are only thirty bolts.



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Reply #549 on: July 18, 2013, 03:09:03 AM
thats Exactly how this feels. Things hit you hard at first but you get used to it. Also if its too hard the game gives you plenty of bolts and e tanks and w tanks are only thirty bolts.

But X6 didn't bug me so much because I find myself far better at the X games than I am at classic titles.

Likewise MM9 is absolutely atrocious in my eyes as it just had so much that wasn't fun about it. The lack of something like the slide didn't help either.