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Title: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Jericho on January 27, 2012, 04:34:46 AM
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The PlayStation 3 and Vita versions of Street Fighter X Tekken gain two more exclusive characters today - both Namco and Capcom lend their mascots to the battle, but in ways you might not expect... Yes, Pac-Man and Mega Man are indeed tossing their heads/helmets in the ring. These two join Cole (from inFamous) and the Kuro/Toro cats for a total of five Sony-exclusive characters on that platform. However, both 'Men arrive in altered forms, making their appearances in SFxT totally unique to this game.

If you're like me, you may be wondering, "w... why that version of Mega Man?" Well, in the spirit of crossover fun, the dev team wanted both Capcom and Namco's mascots to join the fray in a slightly silly, goofy way. Pac-Man riding Mokujin is about as weird as it can get, so the best equivalent for Mega Man would have to be the so-bad-it's-good-but-still-kinda-bad box art from Mega Man 1 in the US.

Make no mistake though, classic Blue Bomber Mega Man still has a future, and we have Top Men (not Top Man) on the case. December also marks the 25th anniversary of Mega Man, and we'll have more news in the future about our plans for the milestone.

(http://shoryuken.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/character_pacman.jpg)
(http://shoryuken.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/l_packman01.jpg)
(http://shoryuken.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/character_megaman.jpg)
(http://shoryuken.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/l_megaman01.jpg)

Official Site. (http://www.capcom.co.jp/sfxtk_en/index.html)
Unity (http://www.capcom-unity.com/brelston/blog/2012/01/26/two_more_ps3vita_exclusive_characters_revealed_for_street_fighter_x_tekken)
SRK Article. (http://shoryuken.com/2012/01/26/first-images-of-pac-man-cover-art-mega-man-added-to-sfxt-site/)

Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MFkGo-hsCY&feature=g-all-u&context=G2e7dbc7FAAAAAAAABAA)
Super/Cross Arts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwxQ-Cl0vA0)

What is this, I don't even... XD
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Dr. Wily II on January 27, 2012, 04:41:13 AM
*standing ovation*
For some reason, Bad Art Mega sorta... Fits into the style. 8D
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: The Great Gonzo on January 27, 2012, 04:44:03 AM
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Well, in the spirit of crossover fun, the dev team wanted both Capcom and Namco's mascots to join the fray in a slightly silly, goofy way.

You know, I hear that this version of BBAMM is actually blatantly insulting.

Even if he's not, they'd better goddamned prove that classic MM's future will be a good one. And enough with that [tornado fang]ing "top men" joke.

/brain has locked up from anger, sorry
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Solar on January 27, 2012, 04:47:52 AM
I think my favorite thing to come out of this is evil Pandora Pac-man. Seriously, just look at those glowy purple eyes of doom.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Protoman Blues on January 27, 2012, 04:49:17 AM
I thought I saw a tweet that said this had been planned since 2010. It'd probably be more well received and laughable if not for the cancellations/everything that happened last year.

Haha, I did love this one tweet though...

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BBAMM is like an amalgamation of the disappointment that is MMU's/MML3's cancellations & MM's absence from MvC3...
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Solar on January 27, 2012, 04:54:14 AM
I thought I saw a tweet that said this had been planned since 2010. It'd probably be more well received and laughable if not for the cancellations/everything that happened last year.

Pretty much. I want to love it and just find it hilarious, and I understand that this is pretty much just bad timing too, but god damn it it's timing certainly couldn't be worse.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Jericho on January 27, 2012, 04:56:12 AM
I feel like this is hilarious and, even with all of the [parasitic bomb] going on with Capcom and their handling of the franchise, I appreciate this for a moment of humor and nod to the fan base. At the same time, hell is going to be razed everywhere now due to the timing.

Now then, I can has X in Marvel? That's more important right now. XD
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Solar on January 27, 2012, 04:59:30 AM
You already has X, give me EXE or Subaru :D
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Protoman Blues on January 27, 2012, 05:02:11 AM
Screw you. I want BLUES!  8B
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Jericho on January 27, 2012, 05:05:56 AM
You already has X, give me EXE or Subaru :D

Lowest goddamn blow ever and you of all people should know that . XD
Screw you. I want BLUES!  8B

Blues gets in as a classic rep, X reps X series, Zero gets retconned into his MMZ design and Bass.EXE hops on the train just because. Deal?
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Protoman Blues on January 27, 2012, 05:09:38 AM
No deal. Blues and Blues ALONE!  B(
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Flame on January 27, 2012, 05:23:18 AM
No deal. Blues and Blues ALONE!  B(
That's kinda silly.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Solar on January 27, 2012, 05:29:28 AM
Lowest goddamn blow ever and you of all people should know that . XD

Of course I do XD

No deal. Blues and Blues ALONE!  B(

Blues, X and Zero get separated, and Blues.EXE. Deal?
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: VixyNyan on January 27, 2012, 05:36:55 AM
Hey guys, remember the Sub Tank drawing with the cigar Mega Man and naked Roll?

Sub Tank was right all along.

Posted on: January 27, 2012, 05:31:30
(http://i.imgur.com/m5zYu.png)
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Protoman Blues on January 27, 2012, 05:43:27 AM
Blues, X and Zero get separated, and Blues.EXE. Deal?

Perhaps.....NO!

Only BLUES!  8)
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Protoman Blues on January 27, 2012, 05:51:11 AM
Hey guys, remember the Sub Tank drawing with the cigar Mega Man and naked Roll?

Sub Tank was right all along.

He's a profit!
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Solar on January 27, 2012, 05:52:25 AM
Perhaps.....NO!

Only BLUES!  8)

BUT YOU'RE GETTING DOUBLE THE BLUES IN THAT ONE D:
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Protoman Blues on January 27, 2012, 05:54:29 AM
Only Blues matters, not Blues.EXE.  8D
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Jericho on January 27, 2012, 06:05:00 AM
Hey guys, remember the Sub Tank drawing with the cigar Mega Man and naked Roll?

Sub Tank was right all along.

Mind blown. XD
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Dr. Wily II on January 27, 2012, 06:18:14 AM
Hey guys, remember the Sub Tank drawing with the cigar Mega Man and naked Roll?

Sub Tank was right all along.
We need the drawing in here for completeness' sake. XD
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: The Drunken Dishwasher on January 27, 2012, 08:33:52 AM
*sees trailer, sees belly and serious smirk on BBA Megaman*

I'm [tornado fang]ing sold.  Day muddafucka one bruddas and sistus!..........if I can afford to.....at the least 1 month after release day *kicks bills...then picks them up*
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Cherrykorock on January 27, 2012, 08:35:20 AM
Not the Megaman I wanted but somehow I like it a lot.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: VirusChris on January 27, 2012, 08:52:35 AM
Hey guys, remember the Sub Tank drawing with the cigar Mega Man and naked Roll?

Sub Tank was right all along.

Posted on: January 27, 2012, 05:31:30
(http://i.imgur.com/m5zYu.png)

Where is this drawing you say?


Now to my opinion on BBA Mega Man...

The Bad Box Art Mega Man? Well I never played the original Classic Mega Man (save the Powered Up version, the Mega Man ZX Advent mini-game, Mega Man 9 and 10) but I do want play the old versions. However even without playing the old Mega Man series I remember this Mega Man truly.

I'll admit BBA Mega Man, "This is my destiny" cracked me up, and I like his fighting style. True I wanted Mega Man X to appear in a fighting game, he is LONG overdue as Zero has appeared four times in a fighting game (twice as X series Zero and twice as Zero series Zero). Because of BBA Mega Man I might get this game now! XD

I'm mad that Capcom said Mega Man wouldn't work as a "fighting character" like for UMvC3, as I voted for Mega Man X to be in and he was first place and they lied he wasn't on the top choices, and now they added this guy in here (but given one of the commenters said, it seem Inufane Keiji discussed letting them have *this* Mega Man in a fighting game before he left) but I'm happy a Mega Man character is in a fighting game. Maybe they'll re-consider for the future of having other Mega Man characters appearing in fighting game and FINALLY move on with the X series and its conclusion to the Zero series.

It's pull and tag with Capcom here, but well-played... if they didn't cancel a certain highly anticipated Mega Man game of the year.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Archer on January 27, 2012, 09:54:43 AM
i don't get how someone can be insulted by this, just cause some games got cancelled

actually i can but its still dumb
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Flame on January 27, 2012, 10:08:32 AM
Its because Capcom has shitty timing, or really does want to troll its fans.

In fact, im convinced thats exactly what's happening here. There is no other explanation for that bio. They cant possibly be that dense.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: The Drunken Dishwasher on January 27, 2012, 10:14:56 AM
Or ya know.  To have fun w/ its fans.  HUMOUR.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Archer on January 27, 2012, 10:15:56 AM
Or ya know.  To have fun w/ its fans.  HUMOUR.

but megaman is serious business
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: The Drunken Dishwasher on January 27, 2012, 10:22:08 AM
Of course, look at his face when he says, "THIS IS MY DESTINY!"
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Protoman Blues on January 27, 2012, 10:27:34 AM
but megaman is serious business

Economically speaking, it is. MegaMan is a license, a brand, a product and therefore a part of Capcom's business plan and right now the customer base that buys this product is a little on edge considering everything that happened last year and how awful Capcom's customer service was.

The only real reason that Capcom's customer service doesn't matter is because it's a gaming company and because no matter how pissed people get, they'll still buy their products, to the point where they probably could intentionally troll the fans if they wanted to (which I don't believe is the case here) and in the long run it won't matter.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Acid on January 27, 2012, 10:31:19 AM
Hey guys, remember the Sub Tank drawing with the cigar Mega Man and naked Roll?

(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq22/mywarehouse/MEGAMANNINE.jpg)
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Protoman Blues on January 27, 2012, 10:32:17 AM
(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq22/mywarehouse/MEGAMANNINE.jpg)

<3 that drawing!
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Acid on January 27, 2012, 10:34:29 AM
<3 that drawing!

And, according to my data, it's from 2008 I believe.

Four damn years already. Crap.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Protoman Blues on January 27, 2012, 10:38:14 AM
It's that old? Wow. Time sure does fly indeed!
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: The Drunken Dishwasher on January 27, 2012, 10:38:28 AM
man...the way Subbie drew roll's eyes is just....erotic~
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Dr. Wily II on January 27, 2012, 10:56:33 AM
OOOH
THAT pic

Sub Tank is indeed a prophet. XD

(And wow... 4 years...)
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: The Drunken Dishwasher on January 27, 2012, 12:43:39 PM
[spoiler]BBA Megaman is really Segata Sanshiro
(http://images.4chan.org/v/src/1327641360760.jpg)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Jericho on January 27, 2012, 05:16:33 PM
Its because Capcom has shitty timing, or really does want to troll its fans.

In fact, im convinced thats exactly what's happening here. There is no other explanation for that bio. They cant possibly be that dense.

Reading the quote Ono gave about speaking to "Mr. Megaman" (aka Mr. I) back in 2010 sounds like he got permission from Inafune himself to do this and stuck with it. I guess it was supposed to be a joke but with everything that went down in 2011, it's getting turned into "Capcom haet Megamans" again.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Solar on January 27, 2012, 05:56:14 PM
Yeah, everything after the Legends 3 incident has pretty much been either a bad/horrible idea with good intentions, or an ok idea/joke with horrible timing. Can't really blame people for being upset. They need to get over the whole "CAPCOM Y U KEEP TROLLING US" thing though, in a year, the community became a kind of a joke to other people.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Mirby on January 27, 2012, 09:12:35 PM
Yeah, I've seen that myself, Tai. All the BAWWWWing over every single thing Capcom does has made everyone stop taking us seriously.

At this rate, we'll be worse than the more rabid side of the Sonic fanbase.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: VirusChris on January 27, 2012, 09:53:56 PM
Yeah, I've seen that myself, Tai. All the BAWWWWing over every single thing Capcom does has made everyone stop taking us seriously.

At this rate, we'll be worse than the more rabid side of the Sonic fanbase.

I have yet to see that rabid side of Sonic fans. I'm a Sonic fan, but I LOVE every Sonic game they have released including Sonic the Hedgehog 2006, The Black Knight, and Secrets of the Rings.

I don't baw over everything Capcom does, they have some great games like Asura's Wrath I'm looking forward to getting and the inclusion of a Mega Man character in a fighting game is great... if it was what the fans wanted for a Mega Man character. I'll admit I'm surprise to see him, but after seeing him in action I like it! Quite a goofy and funny cameo of Mega Man to appear, and let's face it have we really see THIS type of Mega Man in any game before besides boxart? I say give him a chance, I like his "This is my destiny" quote already.

Am I mad that it isn't Mega Man X? A little and who I wish was in UMvC3.
Do I like this Mega Man for a fighter character? Yes, he's quite funny and looks fun to play as.

If Capcom didn't cancel two "new" Mega Man games than this would have been well-received and fans would've loved it! And I think the bio is just hurting this Mega Man's potential of being approve by the fans (I know he was decided upon before Inafune's leave and cancel of MML3) so they could've tweak or change his bio a bit. But I like the little nod the Legends series, however not everyone would agree with me.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Mirby on January 27, 2012, 10:10:18 PM
What I mean by the rabid side are those who dismiss any and all new Sonic games because they're not like the classics and rip them to pieces without even giving them a fair chance.

Which is what some of the MM fanbase is doing with anything Capcom does: rip it to pieces without even giving it a fair chance.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Protoman Blues on January 27, 2012, 10:52:50 PM
What I mean by the rabid side are those who dismiss any and all new Sonic games because they're not like the classics and rip them to pieces without even giving them a fair chance.

Which is what some of the MM fanbase is doing with anything Capcom does: rip it to pieces without even giving it a fair chance.

There's a huge difference though. Sonic fans were pissed at Sonic games cause they weren't like the classics, but this was developing over years and years of disappointment with the actual games themselves. MM fans are pissed because zero compensation has been offered after their clusterfuck of a PR disaster towards their fanbase/customers. Zero compensation. Through one dicktarded PR nightmare, in the span of a year fans have gone from insanely hopeful to insanely pissed, and it's entirely Capcom's fault for the way they handled things, and there's absolutely no way around that.

Until that's fixed and until Capcom starts showing some shred of compensation for their [tornado fang] up, stuff like this, which should be seen as a humorous gesture, will get people upset. That's all there is to it.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Archer on January 27, 2012, 10:57:49 PM
compensate? capcom doesn't owe you anything and even if they did they don't have to

if they decide to actually release something, you guys who are so deprived will eat it right up
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Mirby on January 27, 2012, 11:13:48 PM
And that right there is what I meant by the more rabid side of fanbases.

To think that a company owes us for screwing us over... Yeah, the fans are indeed what make a company successful, the customers. But just because they cancel a few things doesn't mean they HAVE to do something. At the end of the day, we don't matter to them. They don't care how we feel or what we want; they only care about what makes them money. And in that greed, they're often blinded to the extremely obvious solutions (such as MEGA MAN).
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Solar on January 27, 2012, 11:18:06 PM
if they decide to actually release something, you guys who are so deprived will eat it right up

(http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/217549-MMXiOS-Header.jpg)
Yeah...no.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Gaia on January 27, 2012, 11:20:20 PM
So officially, it's Mega Man: SRS BZNSS now, correct?
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Archer on January 27, 2012, 11:21:32 PM
(http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/217549-MMXiOS-Header.jpg)
Yeah...no.

i meant like a proper new game, not...that

i know you guys aren't that desperate
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Solar on January 27, 2012, 11:28:49 PM
If it's decent/good, I don't see why we wouldn't support, but if it's like that...yeah, like you said, we're not that desperate.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: The Great Gonzo on January 27, 2012, 11:30:15 PM
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compensate? capcom doesn't owe you anything and even if they did they don't have to

Maybe they don't owe us anything. But offering compensation would help towards calming the fans a bit.

Public relations matter.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Mirby on January 27, 2012, 11:34:36 PM
If they truly cared about the fans, they would have done something about it already.

The most we've received are horrible ports and vague promises.

They'll do something eventually, but until then complaining about it won't solve anything.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: KoiDrake on January 27, 2012, 11:35:07 PM
Maybe they don't owe us anything. But offering compensation would help towards calming the fans a bit.

Public relations matter.
They don't need to calm the fans, as they still buy their games anyway.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Gaia on January 27, 2012, 11:36:05 PM
Actually, now that I think about it: This is actually the second appearance in a Namco crossover game since Namco X Capcom, but under the Voulnutt name tag in that game. That actually rung a few bells when I first read Mega Man's profile, which reminded me of a similar crossover event, athough that was JP Only. It would've been funny, but considering Capcom's reputation as of now, I can say that they've come between a rock and a hard place.

This could mean Mega Man might've had a chance to re-unite with one of the other Namco franchises, but Pac-Man's never been given a chance to appear in a fighter (unless I've been living under a rock and that needs to be remedied) which is why he's there in a pesudeo-realistic game that has jiggle physics for obese fighters, rather than the ladies.

But alas, coincidence.. don't ya think?
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Flame on January 28, 2012, 12:12:49 AM
i meant like a proper new game, not...that
Except that's ALL we have been getting, and probably all we WILL get for a while. Cheap low quality cash ins that don't cost them a whole lot and therefore are not a major risk.

All fans WANT is an actual new game. Hell, new games are what started this mess. We thought we were getting Mega Man Universe and Mega Man Legends 3. Universe was met with mixed reaction, for various reasons, but legends 3 was what we all wanted. Universe was just the side dish.

To top it off, Legends 3 was an amazing  PR opportunity. Something pretty original. A game for the fans, by the fans, in conjunction with Capcom. The fans would decide almost everything. Since Capcom was skeptical, it would start as just a prototype. And that prototype would be it's own self contained adventure. The Prototype would be the prologue, the prequel to Legends 3, and would determine Legends 3's actual greenlight. There were contests, polls, an all sorts of interactions between the fans and the Dev team, on a scale Ive never really seen before. The game is practically finished, and then It gets cancelled. Capcom cites no specific reasons, only that certain "criteria" was not met.

Legends 3 is not greenlit, and the Prototype, which was delayed, will NOT see the light of day, despite being basically finished. The Japanese Devroom is shut down almost immediately, and Capcom just chucks everything in the garbage. Fans are pretty upset over that, and then, to add to the situation, Capcom Europe insults the fanbase, saying that the game's cancellation is their fault, because they didn't care enough. Everything at this point leads to the conclusion that Capcom used Devroom numbers to predict how many units would be sold, and found it unsatisfactory for their investment. Despite Capcom themselves saying Fans need not join the devroom to follow the game.

And from then on, it just gets worse. Capcom remains incredibly tight lipped over the cancellation, and whenever a devteam member says something, specifically when they announce they support the fan efforts, their blog or twitter is shut down right after.

MvC3 rolls around. Mega Man fans assume that Mega Man will be in it, since he was in the previous 2. Popularity polls are created, and Mega Man tops the charts. Fans try to push for either Mega Man or Mega Man X to be a character. They get told that he will not be included because they cannot make him work in the game, and give other excuses as well. Instead they place Zero in the game, porting most of his moveset from TvC with Tron, and instead of Mega Man, put Arthur in the game. Fans get no specific reason for Mega Man's absence from Capcom. Fans try to get Mega man perhaps as DLC instead. They get told there are no plans to release Mega Man DLC. Instead, fans get the "Days of Future Past" stage, that shows several Marvel and Capcom Characters as either Slain or Captured, and show Mega Man as "Missing".

(EDIT: And I forgot to mention the shitstorm that ensued when Capcom announced UMvC3 almost right after the first, making MvC fans annoyed that they just wasted 50 bucks on an incomplete obsolete version.)

Fans try to push for X, to accompany Zero. They instead get an alternate Skin for Zero.

And for all this, there are no concrete reasons ever given. They are determined on preventing Mega Man's appearance in MvC3.

Time passes, and Street Fighter vs Tekken is announced. people hope Mega man might be a cameo, and eventually ARE teased with a blue silhouette that does not really resemble Mega Man.

The Phone game comes out. It's a cheap Mega Man X port with the graphics slightly modified in photoshop.

Capcom announces they do not know what to do with Mega Man and we get repeated PR talk of "Top Men", (with the emphasis on the "Top Men" Part) deciding Mega Man's future, and deciding a "10 year plan".

Then we get this. A variant on bad Box Art Mega Man, simply named "Mega Man". Not "Bad Box Art Mega Man" but Mega Man. This is supposed to be the Mega Man fans have wanted in MvC3. Any other time and it would have been funny. But then we look at his bio, and see that they have used Mega Man Vollnut's background for him.

Capcom has not only destroyed and completely reversed a perfect PR opportunity, but have created an even WORSE PR nightmare. With almost the majority of the fanbase angry over the way they have been treated. Capcom at no point offered any explanations, and then continued to Ignore Mega Man and make moves that are totally inappropriate for the current situation with their fans.

No, they dont OWE us anything. But they at least owe us explanations, not cardboard cutout "we still care!" PR from Sven. We need SOMETHING. Capcom may not owe us a game, but after baiting us and then pulling the proverbial football right as we are about to kick, they DO owe their fans something. Especially since their fans are what makes them money. Sure, a few less fans doesnt mean anything to them when they can just [parasitic bomb] out another Street Fighter or Resident Evil and have those fans eat it up, it is still just plain stupid, and makes them look bad in the game industry. I know nothing of business, but im pretty sure a company does not want to have a bad reputation. It's bad business practice, and gives competing companies the advantage of using the situation to win over the disgruntled fans, with the bait of "Look here! we DO care about you! Capcom may not care, but we do!" And then make a few fan requested games.

Sega seems to listen to the fans, and Nintendo might listen, I cant be too sure, but they almost always seem to follow fan demand. mainly because whatever they put out, fans like. Capcom right now, has an image that they do not listen to their fans, and in fact, do not respect them. Some people very well see the treatment of the Mega man fanbase as Capcom trolling their fanbase. Not just folks in the fanbase itself, but many outside of the Mega Man fanbase too.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Protoman Blues on January 28, 2012, 12:34:44 AM
compensate? capcom doesn't owe you anything and even if they did they don't have to

if they decide to actually release something, you guys who are so deprived will eat it right up

And that right there is what I meant by the more rabid side of fanbases.

To think that a company owes us for screwing us over... Yeah, the fans are indeed what make a company successful, the customers. But just because they cancel a few things doesn't mean they HAVE to do something. At the end of the day, we don't matter to them. They don't care how we feel or what we want; they only care about what makes them money. And in that greed, they're often blinded to the extremely obvious solutions (such as MEGA MAN).

LoL, I love how both of you didn't actually read what I said. I didn't say they owe us compensation. I just said that none was offered and that until they do, the complaining and [acid burst] off-ness of the fans is not going to stop. They can do whatever the [tornado fang] they want.

Like I've said in a previous thread, how Capcom went about the whole PR debacle was the real, non-gaming world equivalent of Jet Blue keeping customers on the tarmac for 9 hours without allowing them to get off the plane. Did Jet Blue have to offer their customers compensation for their [tornado fang] up? No. Did they? Yes! Why? Because it's good business. Again, it's not about the cancellation of the game as much as how they went about it. I mean, can you honestly name another gaming incident like this where a company got their fanbase so involved & so pumped up only to dump them like a prom date after your high school graduation? Cause I can't think of one.

They don't need to calm the fans, as they still buy their games anyway.

Haha, which is the real problem overall. The gaming business world is pretty much like the drug dealing world. You don't have to provide good customer service as much as keep the supply of crack comin' in! XD
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Hypershell on January 28, 2012, 02:19:24 AM
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Yeah...no.
Best answer ever.  XD

i meant like a proper new game, not...that

i know you guys aren't that desperate
Well, considering the cancellation or refusal to localize all known proper games is the entire REASON the fanbase is on edge...well yeah, of course actually releasing one would quell them.  Using PB's analogy, it's the denial of our crack that has us so pissed off in the first place.

Until that's fixed and until Capcom starts showing some shred of compensation for their [tornado fang] up, stuff like this, which should be seen as a humorous gesture, will get people upset. That's all there is to it.
When you're right, you're right.  It's the same as the bull surrounding X and UMvC3.  The fans are on edge, and Capcom basically can do no right until they get a decent core Mega Man game out there.  

This one, though, I can honestly see as hitting too close to home.  The fact that it's BBAMM playable is a direct reference to Universe, and his profile as a "digger" a reference to Legends.  Presumably because this was set up with Inafune in 2010.  That's the whole problem here.  Had Universe and Legends3 come out, this would've been hilariously enjoyable.  But, they didn't, and because they didn't, this is just reminding us of what we lost.  You kinda have to be brain-dead, doubly so on Capcom's end (I could understand the Digger reference flying over Namco's heads), to not see what the problem is, so they come off as clearly not giving a damn.

I don't think Capcom is trolling Mega Man fans at all, but while UMvC3 is a simple matter of "we want what we want and nothing else" from the fans, SFxT is more a matter of sheer negligence on the part of the developers.  I still believe they had good intentions, but...really...

Nintendo might listen, I cant be too sure, but they almost always seem to follow fan demand.
Actually, I think Capcom could take lessons from Nintendo when it comes to trolling your own fans.

[spoiler=Super Mario 3D Land]What was the biggest fan-based (not the editor-based "where's the particle effects?" bullshit) complaint of NSMBWii?  No playable Peach.  What was the biggest fan-based complaint of 3D Land upon Tanooki Suit's unveiling?  It doesn't fly.

So what does 3D Land do?  We watch Mario free-fly through the whole damn credits, and after numerous grueling hours to 100% clear the game, you're treated to Peach in a Tanooki Suit.

That's about the most direct fan-trolling I've ever seen.  And you know what?  We don't give a damn, because the games are freaking awesome anyway.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Reaperoid on January 28, 2012, 02:48:32 AM
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Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Protoman Blues on January 28, 2012, 02:49:57 AM
When you're right, you're right.  It's the same as the bull surrounding X and UMvC3.  The fans are on edge, and Capcom basically can do no right until they get a decent core Mega Man game out there.  

This one, though, I can honestly see as hitting too close to home.  The fact that it's BBAMM playable is a direct reference to Universe, and his profile as a "digger" a reference to Legends.  Presumably because this was set up with Inafune in 2010.  That's the whole problem here.  Had Universe and Legends3 come out, this would've been hilariously enjoyable.  But, they didn't, and because they didn't, this is just reminding us of what we lost.  You kinda have to be brain-dead, doubly so on Capcom's end (I could understand the Digger reference flying over Namco's heads), to not see what the problem is, so they come off as clearly not giving a damn.

I don't think Capcom is trolling Mega Man fans at all, but while UMvC3 is a simple matter of "we want what we want and nothing else" from the fans, SFxT is more a matter of sheer negligence on the part of the developers.  I still believe they had good intentions, but...really...

I usually am!  8D

But exactly. Like that one tweet said...

Quote
BBAMM is like an amalgamation of the disappointment that is MMU's/MML3's cancellations & MM's absence from MvC3...

It's not intentional as much as it's just an exclamation point on pretty much everything that pissed fans off last year.

(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lygtvqjIni1ropi57o1_500.png)

Those are some pubic hairy balls chin he's got going on there! XD
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Archer on January 28, 2012, 09:42:48 AM
tl;dr

yeah whatever

LoL, I love how both of you didn't actually read what I said.

i won't deny it

PB's analogy, it's the denial of our crack that has us so pissed off in the first place.

if crack = bad and crack = megaman, then megaman = bad?

cause if so i can only think that capcom has done justice here
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Mirby on January 28, 2012, 09:55:31 AM
Others mentioned compensation too...
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Reaperoid on January 28, 2012, 09:59:39 AM
Inafune was dead-set to bring an American style of things over to Capcom Co.
If this was put into motion at the same time as Universe, then how can anyone complain about this being the wrong thing to do? Besides that? Well... Street Fighter games tend to... y'know, be released.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: keiang on January 28, 2012, 10:07:34 AM
This whole thing would've been hilarious, it's just an issue of timing. It's like if someone made a joke about a celebrity they didn't know died in an accident earlier that week.

If there's anything I know about Capcom, it's that they aren't intentionally mean. They're just stupid. Seriously, this isn't the first time they haven't really thought about the implications of their actions. In Resident Evil 5, they had you go around shooting a bunch of spear-wielding Africans living in mud huts. The implication is racist, but that isn't the intent. With this, they're referencing two cancelled games that they dealt with badly. The implication is that they're trolling, but that isn't the intent. Like Hypershell said, if Universe and Legends 3 had come out, we would've found it funny, but now it seems just kind of rude. Most companies would've realized that this gesture has horrible timing, but again, Capcom is pretty stupid about these things.

They're the guy who makes a fart joke at the funeral of a colon cancer victim.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Protoman Blues on January 28, 2012, 10:09:09 AM
i won't deny it

Nor should you!

Quote
if crack = bad and crack = megaman, then megaman = bad?

cause if so i can only think that capcom has done justice here

Not really. Games, like crack, are drugs and not all drugs are bad. Some are even legal. By your analogy, this is more similar to prohibition, and prohibition, done in the name of justice, is & always will be far worse than drugs.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Flame on January 28, 2012, 10:21:53 AM
yeah whatever

i won't deny it

if crack = bad and crack = megaman, then megaman = bad?

cause if so i can only think that capcom has done justice here
WHY must you be so negative all the time...?
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Protoman Blues on January 28, 2012, 10:31:00 AM
WHY must you be so negative all the time...?

He's not being negative. He's being an [dark hold]. There's a difference! XD
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: VirusChris on January 28, 2012, 01:13:14 PM
I always enjoy reading your posts guys. Awesome information and debate! 8)

But yeah I agree with you guys, bad timing. I kinda find it funny they're using the BBA Mega Man, but with the cancellation of the previous two new Mega Man games... Capcom should've ANNOUNCED this first before the cancellation of Universe and Legends 3 (I bought my 3DS to get that game too... ;_;) and it would've been more well-received. But he's inclusion was already under way before the cancellation of Universe and MML3 so you can't really blame them, but you got to ask if they have brains and if so why aren't they using it?

Then again some things are just unavoidable, that's life for you. Life is cruel and unfair but we have to deal with it and keep on pushing forward.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Megaman-RA on January 28, 2012, 04:50:53 PM
Except that's ALL we have been getting, and probably all we WILL get for a while. Cheap low quality cash ins that don't cost them a whole lot and therefore are not a major risk.

All fans WANT is an actual new game. Hell, new games are what started this mess. We thought we were getting Mega Man Universe and Mega Man Legends 3. Universe was met with mixed reaction, for various reasons, but legends 3 was what we all wanted. Universe was just the side dish.

To top it off, Legends 3 was an amazing  PR opportunity. Something pretty original. A game for the fans, by the fans, in conjunction with Capcom. The fans would decide almost everything. Since Capcom was skeptical, it would start as just a prototype. And that prototype would be it's own self contained adventure. The Prototype would be the prologue, the prequel to Legends 3, and would determine Legends 3's actual greenlight. There were contests, polls, an all sorts of interactions between the fans and the Dev team, on a scale Ive never really seen before. The game is practically finished, and then It gets cancelled. Capcom cites no specific reasons, only that certain "criteria" was not met.

Legends 3 is not greenlit, and the Prototype, which was delayed, will NOT see the light of day, despite being basically finished. The Japanese Devroom is shut down almost immediately, and Capcom just chucks everything in the garbage. Fans are pretty upset over that, and then, to add to the situation, Capcom Europe insults the fanbase, saying that the game's cancellation is their fault, because they didn't care enough. Everything at this point leads to the conclusion that Capcom used Devroom numbers to predict how many units would be sold, and found it unsatisfactory for their investment. Despite Capcom themselves saying Fans need not join the devroom to follow the game.

And from then on, it just gets worse. Capcom remains incredibly tight lipped over the cancellation, and whenever a devteam member says something, specifically when they announce they support the fan efforts, their blog or twitter is shut down right after.

MvC3 rolls around. Mega Man fans assume that Mega Man will be in it, since he was in the previous 2. Popularity polls are created, and Mega Man tops the charts. Fans try to push for either Mega Man or Mega Man X to be a character. They get told that he will not be included because they cannot make him work in the game, and give other excuses as well. Instead they place Zero in the game, porting most of his moveset from TvC with Tron, and instead of Mega Man, put Arthur in the game. Fans get no specific reason for Mega Man's absence from Capcom. Fans try to get Mega man perhaps as DLC instead. They get told there are no plans to release Mega Man DLC. Instead, fans get the "Days of Future Past" stage, that shows several Marvel and Capcom Characters as either Slain or Captured, and show Mega Man as "Missing".

(EDIT: And I forgot to mention the shitstorm that ensued when Capcom announced UMvC3 almost right after the first, making MvC fans annoyed that they just wasted 50 bucks on an incomplete obsolete version.)

Fans try to push for X, to accompany Zero. They instead get an alternate Skin for Zero.

And for all this, there are no concrete reasons ever given. They are determined on preventing Mega Man's appearance in MvC3.

Time passes, and Street Fighter vs Tekken is announced. people hope Mega man might be a cameo, and eventually ARE teased with a blue silhouette that does not really resemble Mega Man.

The Phone game comes out. It's a cheap Mega Man X port with the graphics slightly modified in photoshop.

Capcom announces they do not know what to do with Mega Man and we get repeated PR talk of "Top Men", (with the emphasis on the "Top Men" Part) deciding Mega Man's future, and deciding a "10 year plan".

Then we get this. A variant on bad Box Art Mega Man, simply named "Mega Man". Not "Bad Box Art Mega Man" but Mega Man. This is supposed to be the Mega Man fans have wanted in MvC3. Any other time and it would have been funny. But then we look at his bio, and see that they have used Mega Man Vollnut's background for him.

Capcom has not only destroyed and completely reversed a perfect PR opportunity, but have created an even WORSE PR nightmare. With almost the majority of the fanbase angry over the way they have been treated. Capcom at no point offered any explanations, and then continued to Ignore Mega Man and make moves that are totally inappropriate for the current situation with their fans.

No, they dont OWE us anything. But they at least owe us explanations, not cardboard cutout "we still care!" PR from Sven. We need SOMETHING. Capcom may not owe us a game, but after baiting us and then pulling the proverbial football right as we are about to kick, they DO owe their fans something. Especially since their fans are what makes them money. Sure, a few less fans doesnt mean anything to them when they can just [parasitic bomb] out another Street Fighter or Resident Evil and have those fans eat it up, it is still just plain stupid, and makes them look bad in the game industry. I know nothing of business, but im pretty sure a company does not want to have a bad reputation. It's bad business practice, and gives competing companies the advantage of using the situation to win over the disgruntled fans, with the bait of "Look here! we DO care about you! Capcom may not care, but we do!" And then make a few fan requested games.

Sega seems to listen to the fans, and Nintendo might listen, I cant be too sure, but they almost always seem to follow fan demand. mainly because whatever they put out, fans like. Capcom right now, has an image that they do not listen to their fans, and in fact, do not respect them. Some people very well see the treatment of the Mega man fanbase as Capcom trolling their fanbase. Not just folks in the fanbase itself, but many outside of the Mega Man fanbase too.

This is what CAPCOM is right now. And I wouldn't be surprised that Mega Man fans would be rowdy on those events later on. That would be hilarious to see.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Hypershell on January 28, 2012, 05:46:03 PM
He's not being negative. He's being an [dark hold]. There's a difference! XD
I'm sure that [dark hold]s can be negative.
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Flame on January 28, 2012, 07:50:27 PM
He's not being negative. He's being an [dark hold]. There's a difference! XD
I didnt want to just outright say that because y'know, I don't want to sound like an [dark hold] myself... >_>
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Protoman Blues on January 28, 2012, 08:15:33 PM
I'm sure that [dark hold]s can be negative.

Oh, without a doubt! But negativity isn't the case here! XD

I didnt want to just outright say that because y'know, I don't want to sound like an [dark hold] myself... >_>

I have no such problem!  8D
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Flame on January 28, 2012, 09:42:39 PM
Indeed you don't. Indeed you don't...
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Sigma Zero X on January 29, 2012, 03:28:21 AM
Regardless of the timing and what Capcom's intentions are right now, I'll admit that I like BBA Megaman.  Although the stomach got a little overdone, his moves and appearance is still cool to me. 
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: VirusChris on January 29, 2012, 03:47:09 AM
After seeing the MM1 USA Boxart... BBA Mega Man didn't have a gut! He actually had a good build on him, not too buff but not skinny either but he NEVER had a gut. He really let himself go if he has a beer belly now. :(
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Night on January 29, 2012, 04:18:08 AM
He really let himself go if he has a beer belly now. :(

Not again (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACBJtPUIF3o&feature=fvsr)...He really needs to lay off those E-Tanks  :|
Title: Re: Bad Art Mega Man Joins the Cross (Street Fighter x Tekken that is; also Pac Man)
Post by: Flame on January 29, 2012, 11:07:18 PM
The possibility of a more Normal Blue Bomber is up for grabs if Ono is wise enough to take it.

Quote
Daemon Gildas: "Is there any chance at a more traditional "costume" for Mega Man in Street Fighter X Tekken? What about using the "Mega Man" seen on the movie-posters in Dead Rising? Or maybe a look based on the Ruby-Spears cartoon? That way, we have the option of a less-creepy incarnation of the Blue Bomber, while still playing along with the slightly-cheesy nature."

Svensson: "Interesting suggestion. Maybe. Let me chat about it with Ono."

http://www.rockmancorner.com/2012/01/capcom-comments-on-possible-traditional.html (http://www.rockmancorner.com/2012/01/capcom-comments-on-possible-traditional.html)
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